What's the highest you'd resign Frye for?

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KP said that extensions in October are only given "if it's a sweet deal for the team". I think Frye, of all our "extension-eligible" guys, would be one to re-up at a discount. But that's not the question.

Is a 6 year MLE-sized contract too much for Frye? A Travis contract (3yr, 12M)? Somewhere in between?
 
I'd give him 5 years, 20-25 mil per, and he'd be 30 by the end of that contract and maybe at the end of his prime. I don't think I'd go into the 6-7 mil per range for a backup PF. While Joel makes that much, he's worth it and more valuable than Channing is.
 
Assuming he's going to be as productive this season as I think he's capable of being (15-20 minutes per game, 7-8 points, 5-6 boards) then I think a reasonable offer would be something in the range of 3.5-4.5 million per year for 4-5 years ... unfortunately I think he's probably worth more than that to another team who would have a larger role and more minutes for him.

I know Channing says he wants to stay here, but for his sake I think he would be unwise to potentially lose out on millions just to stick with this one team. Who knows, maybe Channing really does value staying in Portland as a role-player more than he values a big contract and bigger role on a team?
 
I was thinking about the "money left on the table" issue as well...

Would you rather make, say, 30M in a career and live in Portland the entire time, or 45M and live in LA or Detroit or Chicago or something?

Easy for me to say, since I'm not the one leaving 15M on the table. But I think for Channing, quality of life has its own price.
 
No one really mentions trading Frye at the trade deadline but depending on how he's playing we may have no choice. Losing him for nothing would be a big mistake.

The one thing I keep thinking about, isn't a backup PF the easiest position to backfill????? IMO either Frye or Joel are gone by next year.
 
I could see the blazers paying him up to 7 mil a year but maybe signing him to a shorter contract of say 3 years 20 million which would let him out of the contract at a young enough age to still get another big deal before he is out of the league.
 
If his range has increased out to the 3-point line, then 30 to 40 million over 5 years would be bargin for Frye.
 
I'd do about $4-5 million / year for 4 years.

It's a fair bit for a bench player, but if by next off-season Portland hasn't used its cap space, I'm not sure they're going to.
 
LittleAlex said:
If his range has increased out to the 3-point line, then 30 to 40 million over 5 years would be bargin for Frye.
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Six to eight million a year for a reserve power forward?! Isiah is that you?
 
Nikolokolus said:
Six to eight million a year for a reserve power forward?! Isiah is that you?
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A big man who can spread the floor is a valuable commodity in the league. Someone will pay him that money. I would prefer it to be us.

If I were Isiah, it would 15 million a year for 6 years.
 
LittleAlex said:
A big man who can spread the floor is a valuable commodity in the league. Someone will pay him that money. I would prefer it to be us.

If I were Isiah, it would 15 million a year for 6 years.
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I'm not saying he wouldn't be worth that to another team, but to the Blazers that is way overpaying -- that's starter's money. I love Channing but a 15-20 minute player pulling down that kind of scratch is not money well spent ... especially when we've got some big extensions on the near horizon for Roy, Oden, Aldridge, Rudy and starter's money for [Fill-in-the-blank starting point guard, small forward]. I wouldn't be averse to seeing him signed for 4-5 million a year, but 6-8 mil is not good.
 
I love Frye. I'd give him $7M for the first year, $6M for the second year, and $5M for the third year. Fourth year team option would be no brainer.
 
I think that Frye can be one of the fan favorites with his personality and eagerness to be here. On the court, he's a great option as a backup and complements Greg and Joel quite nicely. I'd give him about 6 million per year max; at a max of six years.

If he doesn't work out for whatever reason, I think his skill set would be attractive enough to entice another team to trade for him.

If not, Kevin would just Pritchlap somebody in order to do it.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm not saying he wouldn't be worth that to another team, but to the Blazers that is way overpaying -- that's starter's money. I love Channing but a 15-20 minute player pulling down that kind of scratch is not money well spent ... especially when we've got some big extensions on the near horizon for Roy, Oden, Aldridge, Rudy and starter's money for [Fill-in-the-blank starting point guard, small forward]. I wouldn't be averse to seeing him signed for 4-5 million a year, but 6-8 mil is not good.
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agreed. I think Channing's pick and pop game blends with most anyone and would rather KP tie him to the Blazers future then Joel or any of the other FAs to be, but 6-8 is overpaying. I really doubt anyone is going to offer him a full MLE let alone 8M per... no need to bid agaisnt yourself.

STOMP
 
Crimson the Cat said:
I love Frye. I'd give him $7M for the first year, $6M for the second year, and $5M for the third year. Fourth year team option would be no brainer.
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^^^ LOL there is no way Frye would ever do that.

maxiep said:
Mid Level Exception seems reasonable.
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^^^ I agree with this.

But it kinda depends on if we have Outlaw still. Cuz we could just let Frye go and let Outlaw play backup PF full time.
 
BenDavis503 said:
^^^ LOL there is no way Frye would ever do that.
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There's no way he'd accept a $6 million / year average contract, for three years with a fourth year team option? He might not, but I don't see what's so crazy about it that it's obvious he wouldn't accept it. $6 million / year is around MLE, and I'd be pretty surprised if any team offered him much more.
 
I would give him $6 million for as many years as possible. LaMarcus, Oden and Joel all have injury histories. Having Frye to fill in for them if injured would be vital.
 
4 years 26 million, player option on the 4th year. he is a great backup, and he deserves great backup money.
 
I'd offer him a contract starting at $5 million a year, for 4 years. Something like 4 years 23 million
 
MLE would be the max I would go. You don't pay 7 mil for a player who will never be your starter at their position. LA has the PF position locked up for as long as he is. We soon will be in a position where some of the servicible big men nearing retirement will come here cheap looking for a ring, no need to tie big money up in a backup. I mean this with no disrespect to CF, I like him, but don't want to overpay on backups. We are modeling our team after the Spurs and they ussually don't tie big money up in backups.
 
I'd go 6 to 7 million for Frye. 7 to 8 million for Webster (assuming he looks good this year).

and a hearty kick in the butt for Diogu on his way out of town!
 
4.75 for 3
he probably can get more, but the team is going to have a lot of shaking out to do, and i think players that want to stay will do so for a little less money if they know there could be rings in the near future.

couple that with a relatively short contract and their league value will remain high due to second contract possibilities while still young

the last thing we need is a ton of 8-16m players, the office has struggled to get rid of these guys... i hope they don't fall right back into that.
 
http://www.columbian.com/article/20081016/SPORTS01/710169949/-1/sports

Another Frye story from Brian Hendrickson (a much better beat writer than the Oregonian's Jason Quick IMO).

This really jumped out at me:
...Frye has embraced the potential in that secondary role. And rather than seek to become a primary scorer or rebounder, he wants to be looked upon as the Blazers’ glue.

“I think that person is a huge person, especially here, that’s going to stay around for a long time, that a lot of teams need,” Frye said. “I’m trying to be like, ‘Well, you can put him anywhere.’ ”

The role may not excite some players. But Frye has seen many players build their identity by accepting and thriving in that position.

He points to James Posey, whose clutch play off the bench gave Boston an extra option on top of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen, and helped lift the Celtics to last year’s championship.

And on his own team, Frye watched James Jones make a significant difference last season simply by playing off teammates and burning opponents who left him open on the perimeter with key 3-pointers...
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And more ...

And while the 25-year-old Frye feels he is capable of developing into a team’s primary option, he understands that making a difference in a smaller role can make him valuable as well.

“You look at those type of guys that can space the floor ... they’re going to have a long-lasting time in this league, and they’re widely respected for being skilled players,” Frye said. “And that’s what I am.”
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After reading that it sounds like he might be shooting for that MLE type of contract and wants some longevity or continuity in his career ... now I just hope he's actually able to go out there and be that "glue" guy this team is going to need.
 
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I really like Frye as one of our good role players when we make a run and go deep in the playoffs. I still would only go 4-5 million for 3-5 years with some team option for the last couple years if we go 5 years. I wouldn't want to pay MLE but that would be the absolute max if we have traded some of our other good bench players.:pimp:
 
Frye has a good attitude and some interesting offensive skills. I loved watching him play at Arizona. The problem is, he's a lot like Outlaw...some useful offensive skills and little else. He doesn't rebound well for his position, nor is he a particularly good defender or passer. I'd be happy to keep Frye, if he doesn't get in the way of signing a better, more expensive player (which, granted, is unlikely).But then I'd say that Outlaw is even more expendable.
 
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