What's your depth-chart?

[Tince]

This is assuming we just get picks and expirings for Jrue.

Scoot(32)/Ant(16)
Shae(32)/Ant(16)
Matisse(25)/Knox(15)/Kris(8)
Jerami(36)/Kris(6)/Jabari(6)
Ayton(32)/Moses(16)

You think Ant will come off the bench or are you just saying he'll split minutes at the PG/SG position?

I'd be shocked if he's coming off the bench.

 

[illmatic99]

Scoot (30), Lowry (10), Ant (8)
Ant (24), Sharpe (24)
Thybulle (22), Jaquez (20), Sharpe (6)
Grant (32), Jovic (16)
Ayton (32), Walker (16)

We need a backup C.

Grant: 32
Ant: 32
Ayton: 32
Scoot: 30
Sharpe: 30
Thybulle: 22
Jaquez: 20
Jovic: 16
Walker: 16
Lowry: 10

 

[BankTeller]

I think people are going to be surprised with how much more confidence Ant will play with, knowing the reports are coming out that he will be the #1 option on offense. He has all the offensive talent to do so.

When Ant is the PG, Ant can get a lot of those 3’s Dame would get when he comes off a Nurk pick. Ant is very capable of taking and making those. Having DA as a PnR partner also might open things up for Ant as a PnR playmaker, given that DA is a threat to roll or pop. It’ll be Ant’s responsibility to pick and choose when to score or get the big man involved, expanding that part of his game.

With Ant playing alongside Scoot, Ant can play more within the offense. A lot of catch and shoot 3’s. Fast break opportunities. Between Shae, Grant, Kris, maybe Walker, there are going to be open guys if we play Warriors ball.

Ant needs to be more aggressive going to the hoop, but he showed so more much promise in that last season.



Finishes over Bridges, Bam, Scottie,
Finishes under Adams
Finishes through Siakam, Scottie again

His shooting also is rarely replicated. We are lucky he had two. Trae is another, although I actually prefer Ant. Curry and Kyrie are the other two guys from the Dame era. There aren’t that many guys who can put fear in a team with their ability to get that hot from 3, that can get off a 3 that quickly from anywhere, regardless if he’s handling the ball or spotting up.

 

[blazerkor]

You think Ant will come off the bench or are you just saying he'll split minutes at the PG/SG position?

I'd be shocked if he's coming off the bench.

I think that Scoot and Shae are the future of this team, I think if Ant proves himself as a super sixth man that he would have a lot more value on the trade market. So I would start Scoot and Shae but Ant would get just as many minutes. I realize that's not what Chauncey is likely to do but it's what I would want.

 

[BankTeller]

Scoot (30), Lowry (10), Ant (8)
Ant (24), Sharpe (24)
Thybulle (22), Jaquez (20), Sharpe (6)
Grant (32), Jovic (16)
Ayton (32), Walker (16)

We need a backup C.

Grant: 32
Ant: 32
Ayton: 32
Scoot: 30
Sharpe: 30
Thybulle: 22
Jaquez: 20
Jovic: 16
Walker: 16
Lowry: 10

If we had Lowry, I wouldn’t even want him to play. Worst case scenario is that he gers backup PG minutes if Scoot or Ant get injured.

 

[illmatic99]

If we had Lowry, I wouldn’t even want him to play. Worst case scenario is that he gers backup PG minutes if Scoot or Ant get injured.

that's fine. More minutes for Ant at PG, and moves Sharpe up the rotation at SG more. The 10 minutes I had for him are very trivial. We'll also have nagging injuries and load management as is.

 

[Tince]

I think that Scoot and Shae are the future of this team, I think if Ant proves himself as a super sixth man that he would have a lot more value on the trade market. So I would start Scoot and Shae but Ant would get just as many minutes. I realize that's not what Chauncey is likely to do but it's what I would want.

Gotcha...

I want the Sharpe to earn his starting spot because he's the best SG on the roster, not have it handed to him.

 

[Tince]

I think people are going to be surprised with how much more confidence Ant will play with, knowing the reports are coming out that he will be the #1 option on offense. He has all the offensive talent to do so.

When Ant is the PG, Ant can get a lot of those 3’s Dame would get when he comes off a Nurk pick. Ant is very capable of taking and making those. Having DA as a PnR partner also might open things up for Ant as a PnR playmaker, given that DA is a threat to roll or pop. It’ll be Ant’s responsibility to pick and choose when to score or get the big man involved, expanding that part of his game.

With Ant playing alongside Scoot, Ant can play more within the offense. A lot of catch and shoot 3’s. Fast break opportunities. Between Shae, Grant, Kris, maybe Walker, there are going to be open guys if we play Warriors ball.

Ant needs to be more aggressive going to the hoop, but he showed so more much promise in that last season.



Finishes over Bridges, Bam, Scottie,
Finishes under Adams
Finishes through Siakam, Scottie again

His shooting also is rarely replicated. We are lucky he had two. Trae is another, although I actually prefer Ant. Curry and Kyrie are the other two guys from the Dame era. There aren’t that many guys who can put fear in a team with their ability to get that hot from 3, that can get off a 3 that quickly from anywhere, regardless if he’s handling the ball or spotting up.

I don't disagree with a lot of what you say, but knowing how this board (and Twitter) works, Ant will be the newest scapegoat.

 

[blazerkor]

Gotcha...

I want the Sharpe to earn his starting spot because he's the best SG on the roster, not have it handed to him.

Me too. I'm hoping we see that he has improved on both ends of the court over the summer. If he has he'll be a far superior SG to Ant because he'll be an effective scorer and effective defender instead of an absolute liability. Oh and I'm so fucking sick of watching undersized back courts and that might play into my thinking.

 

[BankTeller]

Scoot (30), Lowry (10), Ant (8)
Ant (24), Sharpe (24)
Thybulle (22), Jaquez (20), Sharpe (6)
Grant (32), Jovic (16)
Ayton (32), Walker (16)

We need a backup C.

Grant: 32
Ant: 32
Ayton: 32
Scoot: 30
Sharpe: 30
Thybulle: 22
Jaquez: 20
Jovic: 16
Walker: 16
Lowry: 10

Also, I honestly would rather they work out a deal with OKC and give up 3 unprotected 1sts. They could keep Jovic and Jaquez, and try to work out filler.

We already drafted Kris, and they’re still Walker and other 4’s we can develop. Unless we think one of them will be better than Grant, there’s no point of taking either one back and considering them an asset, they would clearly be more valuable to them than us. I would even give MIA or OKC some of the 2nds we have to make this possible.

The ‘24 1st won’t be great, but maybe it helps us move up in the draft if we are in love with someone like Sarr. But after that, having an extra 1st between ‘28 and ‘30 are a huge asset.

 

[BankTeller]

I don't disagree with a lot of what you say, but knowing how this board (and Twitter) works, Ant will be the newest scapegoat.

Scapegoat for what? When the pre-season standings come out, we will probably be between the 5th and 10th worst teams, if not worse. No one expects us to win.

Or are you talking about Blazers fans? Cause he shouldn’t care. Just continue to get better. He has no pressure of even being the franchise player, we’ve already proclaimed Shae and Scoot as the future. All Ant can do is play well enough to land him on a team he wants, provided that they love him enough to give back maximum compensation.

 

[Tince]

Scapegoat for what? When the pre-season standings come out, we will probably be between the 5th and 10th worst teams, if not worse. No one expects us to win.

Or are you talking about Blazers fans? Cause he shouldn’t care. Just continue to get better. He has no pressure of even being the franchise player, we’ve already proclaimed Shae and Scoot as the future. All Ant can do is play well enough to land him on a team he wants, provided that they love him enough to give back maximum compensation.

I'm predicting within 6 months from now people on this board will want Ant traded. They'll point to his defense and that Sharpe should start over him as the reason.

I hope that doesn't happen though.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm predicting within 6 months from now people on this board will want Ant traded. They'll point to his defense and that Sharpe should start over him as the reason.

I hope that doesn't happen though.

I want Simons traded. He’s terrible at defense ( and undersized) and I think Sharpe should start over him.

 

[Whyachi]

I want Simons traded. He’s terrible at defense ( and undersized) and I think Sharpe should start over him.

NO... Simons will play 40m a night. He will lead the Blazers in fantasy stats.
You will like him. You will root for him.
Go Blazers !!

 

[Whyachi]

I'm predicting within 6 months from now people on this board will want Ant traded. They'll point to his defense and that Sharpe should start over him as the reason.

I hope that doesn't happen though.

Scoot, Shaedon are Rising Stars.
It took Anfernee 5 years to graduate the Rising Stars class. I'm not buying the "not normal rookies" description. There will be a learning curve. The Blazers need a pro that can shoot. And Anfernee is pretty good at shooting.

 

[Tince]

Scoot, Shaedon are Rising Stars.
It took Anfernee 5 years to graduate the Rising Stars class. I'm not buying the "not normal rookies" description. There will be a learning curve. The Blazers need a pro that can shoot. And Anfernee is pretty good at shooting.

Before we call either one of them "rising stars", then need to at least make an All-Rookie team or Rising Stars game. Sharpe failed to do either last season.

 

[Whyachi]

Before we call either one of them "rising stars", then need to at least make an All-Rookie team or Rising Stars game. Sharpe failed to do either last season.

I'm just using rising stars as a general description for all the top young players. Not that actual Rising Stars boring game in Utah. All-Star weekend was a complete letdown. The stadium was emptier then a Pistons game on Tuesday.

And remember, last season was supposed to be super duper "win-now" mode. Shaedon's minutes got totally jacked, as Coach Billups was running 8 man rotations, trying his best to get the starting 5 winning games. No time to leave Sharpe in the game. Playing good, medium, bad, there's the bench kid >>> Starters... yer up to bat.

 

[blazerkor]

I want Simons traded. He’s terrible at defense ( and undersized) and I think Sharpe should start over him.

1000% this

 

[Tince]

I'm just using rising stars as a general description for all the top young players. Not that actual Rising Stars boring game in Utah. All-Star weekend was a complete letdown. The stadium was emptier then a Pistons game on Tuesday.

And remember, last season was supposed to be super duper "win-now" mode. Shaedon's minutes got totally jacked, as Coach Billups was running 8 man rotations, trying his best to get the starting 5 winning games. No time to leave Sharpe in the game. Playing good, medium, bad, there's the bench kid >>> Starters... yer up to bat.

I hear you, I didn't think you meant the term "rising star" are the literal game, though I did mean it. Sharpe played 20mpg prior to not being selected in the Rising Star game and even more after. Tari Eason played less minutes than Sharpe, but still made the All-Rookie team, so I don't think it was all about "win-now". Sharpe also played a lot in summer league, as a sophomore, and while he played well, wasn't able to consistently dominate.

I'm not saying neither have all-star potential (they do), but neither has earned a spot on the rising stars list yet; at least in my mind. They'll certainly have a great opportunity this year!

 

[blazerfan11]

This is assuming we just get picks and expirings for Jrue.

Scoot(32)/Ant(16)
Shae(32)/Ant(16)
Matisse(25)/Knox(15)/Kris(8)
Jerami(36)/Kris(6)/Jabari(6)
Ayton(32)/Moses(16)

I would love this. I think it makes so much sense to most Blazers fans as to how it SHOULD be. (not predicting what will be.)
If the Blazers get a better SF in the Jrue trade, just slot him ahead of Matisse.

 

[THE HCP]

But this isn’t our final roster.

 

[blazerfan11]

Gotcha...

I want the Sharpe to earn his starting spot because he's the best SG on the roster, not have it handed to him.

I would hand it to him.

Sharpe is one of those players who can make a game-winning block, game-winning steal, game winning rebound, or game winning shot and it'll just be part of his game, like we have seen from the best 2-way guards in NBA history.

When Simons shows he has the potential to be that kind of player, I would consider him.

 

[blazerfan11]

But this isn’t our final roster.

Shhh.

 

[riverman]

My depth chart? I got out of the shower and can still look down and see my feet..that's my depth chart.

 

[BankTeller]

This is kind of what I’m thinking for shot distributions:

First, I think it’s important to playing a style of basketball that is conducive to generating more shot attempts, around 90 a game. We averaged 85 (25th) last year and 87 (19th) in ‘21-‘22. Less iso, more ball movement.

Ant: 18-19 FGA (20-21%). A slight uptick from last year, that amount of FGA would put him in the likes of Fox, LaVine, Young, Siakam in terms of attempts. If he maintains a .45 FG% and has a slight uptick in his 3P% and FTA, he’ll probably be in the 24ppg range. So he could be an efficient 26ppg kind of guy or also an inefficient 22ppg guy.

DA: 16-18 FGA (17.8-20%). DA’s offensive role is going to expand several folds. 18 is probably on the higher end of what I think he should be at, 17 is probably just right if he can maintain a FG% in the high 50s. If he could see even a small uptick to 4 FTA and maintains his FT%, he could be averaging 22+ ppg.

Sharpe: 15-16 FGA (16.7-17.8%). He should get double the FGAs as last year. I don’t think he needs anymore than that. If he maintains similar efficiency and can get to the line more frequently, he could be averaging 16+ ppg.

Grant: 14-16 FGA (15.5-17.8%). Grant averaged 14.5 last year. He gets an efficient 20, I don’t think he necessarily needs to be getting more shots up. He got his money, he should just get his shots within the offense or as a bailout option when the shot clock winds down.

I don’t have a FGA projection for Scoot. I think I’m going to be paying more attention to his playmaking than his scoring. He would be getting a large portion of the 25-27 remaining attempts, with guys like Kris, Walker, and maybe other vets from the Holiday trade taking the remaining shots.

 

[THE HCP]

This is kind of what I’m thinking for shot distributions:

First, I think it’s important to playing a style of basketball that is conducive to generating more shot attempts, around 90 a game. We averaged 85 (25th) last year and 87 (19th) in ‘21-‘22. Less iso, more ball movement.

Ant: 18-19 FGA (20-21%). A slight uptick from last year, that amount of FGA would put him in the likes of Fox, LaVine, Young, Siakam in terms of attempts. If he maintains a .45 FG% and has a slight uptick in his 3P% and FTA, he’ll probably be in the 24ppg range. So he could be an efficient 26ppg kind of guy or also an inefficient 22ppg guy.

DA: 16-18 FGA (17.8-20%). DA’s offensive role is going to expand several folds. 18 is probably on the higher end of what I think he should be at, 17 is probably just right if he can maintain a FG% in the high 50s. If he could see even a small uptick to 4 FTA and maintains his FT%, he could be averaging 22+ ppg.

Sharpe: 15-16 FGA (16.7-17.8%). He should get double the FGAs as last year. I don’t think he needs anymore than that. If he maintains similar efficiency and can get to the line more frequently, he could be averaging 16+ ppg.

Grant: 14-16 FGA (15.5-17.8%). Grant averaged 14.5 last year. He gets an efficient 20, I don’t think he necessarily needs to be getting more shots up. He got his money, he should just get his shots within the offense or as a bailout option when the shot clock winds down.

I don’t have a FGA projection for Scoot. I think I’m going to be paying more attention to his playmaking than his scoring. He would be getting a large portion of the 25-27 remaining attempts, with guys like Kris, Walker, and maybe other vets from the Holiday trade taking the remaining shots.

What about Jrue or the new guys coming in?

 

[Whyachi]

But this isn’t our final roster.

Blazers are 4.6 million under the EVIL luxury tax. There's still a little wiggle room to trade/sign a new Blazer.

Next year's horrifyingly evil luxury tax looks good too. Might have to make a few "adjustments". If Blazers tank, the super rookies aren't cheap. Portland can still easily dodge the super scary tax if a 10m expiring player is in a Jrue Holiday trade.

 

[Whyachi]

This is kind of what I’m thinking for shot distributions:

First, I think it’s important to playing a style of basketball that is conducive to generating more shot attempts, around 90 a game. We averaged 85 (25th) last year and 87 (19th) in ‘21-‘22. Less iso, more ball movement.

Ant: 18-19 FGA (20-21%). A slight uptick from last year, that amount of FGA would put him in the likes of Fox, LaVine, Young, Siakam in terms of attempts. If he maintains a .45 FG% and has a slight uptick in his 3P% and FTA, he’ll probably be in the 24ppg range. So he could be an efficient 26ppg kind of guy or also an inefficient 22ppg guy.

DA: 16-18 FGA (17.8-20%). DA’s offensive role is going to expand several folds. 18 is probably on the higher end of what I think he should be at, 17 is probably just right if he can maintain a FG% in the high 50s. If he could see even a small uptick to 4 FTA and maintains his FT%, he could be averaging 22+ ppg.

Sharpe: 15-16 FGA (16.7-17.8%). He should get double the FGAs as last year. I don’t think he needs anymore than that. If he maintains similar efficiency and can get to the line more frequently, he could be averaging 16+ ppg.

Grant: 14-16 FGA (15.5-17.8%). Grant averaged 14.5 last year. He gets an efficient 20, I don’t think he necessarily needs to be getting more shots up. He got his money, he should just get his shots within the offense or as a bailout option when the shot clock winds down.

I don’t have a FGA projection for Scoot. I think I’m going to be paying more attention to his playmaking than his scoring. He would be getting a large portion of the 25-27 remaining attempts, with guys like Kris, Walker, and maybe other vets from the Holiday trade taking the remaining shots.

I think Ant's shot numbers will be at least 20 per game. Shaedon and DA's numbers will be lower, 12 a piece. Grant will be the same as last year. Matisse needs about 8 per game. Scoot, oh he needs serious reps, at least 15 takes per contest.

Spread the love. Lot's of drive kick swing swing. Scoot can drive in deep like Lillard, that will open up baseline cutters, weakside rollers.

The Blazers did try to run a faster paced offense last year. I broke it down in a different thread. It's not so easy running up tempo offense off made baskets. Portland gave up A LOT of made buckets last year.

Guys were sprinting harder to get into offensive positions, then they were getting back on defense. Billups is definitely coaching his team to run offense. The sets are almost ALWAYS 2 deep in the corners. It would be refreshing to see more top loading quick set wall screen offense.

I don't know if Billups wants to change the playbook. Coach is a bit stubborn on how he wants the offense to look. If the Warriors and Kings can do it, then dammit, so can the Blazers! It's those gosh darn defenders fault, always messing up the Blazers mojo.

 

[Whyachi]

What about Jrue or the new guys coming in?

no shots for anyone else.
Rebound, defense, pass it to Anfernee

 

[blazerkor]

no shots for anyone else.
Rebound, defense, pass it to Anfernee

Fuck That! Along with running the offense Scoot will get a boatload of shots so you need to factor that in and until the trade deadline it might be prudent for Jerami to get the most shot attempts per game.