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Orion Bailey said:
Actually GS was pretty much full health in the play offs. One of only a couple teams that were and this is why I think we would have given them a run. They won the ring because most of the teams they faced were far more beat up than them.
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I don't think you give them enough credit. Teams that wrack up more than 60 wins and have a 10+ points differential didn't get their ring with luck.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I don't think you give them enough credit. Teams that wrack up more than 60 wins and have a 10+ points differential didn't get their ring with luck.
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Not saying luck and they do get credit from me, but I am saying if all the west teams had as good of team health as GS did going into the playoffs. I'm not positive they come out on the championship end.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Not saying luck and they do get credit from me, but I am saying if all the west teams had as good of team health as GS did going into the playoffs. I'm not positive they come out on the championship end.
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Nothing is every a sure thing, but they would still have been the odds on favorite.
 
Id love to get Skal Labissiere at the 5 or Ben Simmons at the 4. Not just because they're great players, but because both would allow you to trade other young bigs for a borderline star.

We get Labissiere and we could trade Davis, Plumlee and a 1st rounder for someone like Derozen, or in a sign and trade where we offer Harrison Barnes for the Warriors to let him go. Golden State could use a big like Plumlee to go with Ezeli so they don't have to pay Plumlee, and Davis to backup Green. This might actually open up cap space for them to get a star SF (maybe even Durant)
Imagine Vonleh/Labissiere as your front court combo. Within 3 or 4 years that could be the best frontcourt in the league, and youd also have Meyers coming off the bench, with Aminu playing backup 3 and 4 behind the wing acquired.

If we got lucky and got Simmons I think it allows you to trade Vonleh, Davis, and a future pick for someone maybe a little more valueable than Derozen or Barnes. Simmons and Leonard would be a versatile and deadly combo at the 4 and 5, and Simmons would allow us to play small ball offensively without giving up anything on defense.

I like Labissiere and Vonleh though. Vonleh has a chance to be as good as LMA was, but Labissiere has Anthony Davis upside as an offensive and defensive stud. Both can shoot 3s, both can run the court and handle the ball. It'd be like playing with 5 perimeter players offensively with 2 bigs that are actually 6'10 (7'4 wingspan) and 7'0 (7'2 wingspan). They have the perimeter quickness to gaurd SFs in case teams try to go small, while each has the ability to make tears pay inside. It'd be the perfect counter to the new NBA "trend". You get Barnes and another young high potential wing through free agency or the 2017 draft and youre golden (maybe Ben McLemore or Terrence Ross? High upside guys that have yet to prove themselves.. good shooters and amazing athletes). You'd still have tons of cap space to build a dominant bench, too. Throughout this post I just realized we need to tank HARD.

Lillard (36) / Augustin (12)
Ross (25) / McCollum (26)
Barnes (34) / Aminu (17)
Vonleh (32) / Speights?
Labissiere (34) / Leonard (24)

You've added a bunch of shooters whIle staying athletic and young. And it could happen in 2 years...
 
I believe any draft or trade scenario (or series of such) has merit and I can see the possibilities. The moment a big name free agent enters the picture it kills any chance of happening. It is literally like saying the Easter Bunny will play for the Blazers.
 
ripcityboy said:
I believe any draft or trade scenario (or series of such) has merit and I can see the possibilities. The moment a big name free agent enters the picture it kills any chance of happening. It is literally like saying the Easter Bunny will play for the Blazers.
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it just depends on the situation. If we somehow traded for DeMarcus Cousins, I think we could get anyone outside of Lebron. Of course no one wanted to come here this year... all the signs were LMA was leaving
 
BonesJones said:
it just depends on the situation. If we somehow traded for DeMarcus Cousins, I think we could get anyone outside of Lebron. Of course no one wanted to come here this year... all the signs were LMA was leaving
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Dr Evil..... can we discuss the idea of Portland as a future setting for Big Name Free Agents???

 
I think we sign a max level free agent next summer;

Dame
CJ
Batam
Aminu
Meyers

6th man: Vonleh

Vonleh can come in for a big or for CJ if we want a huge lineup. We barely make the playoffs but the Hornets fall short so Nic comes back as him and Dame discussed in France a couple weeks ago. We need a SG and some more backups; maybe Pat, Plumlee or some other players on our roster do that.

Projecting two or more years from now is about impossible; half the allstars from now will be shells of their old selves and half the new Allstate are nobodies now. We don't have one player who was playing here over three years ago.
 
ripcityboy said:
A big name free agent will NEVER COME HERE..... EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER EVER times infinity plus 1.
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WRONG! You can get a free agent if you have a core and cap space that reaches the second round of the playoffs. Example... If our team as it currently stands makes the playoffs, our chances are much greater to land a free agent. We lost out because our marquee player and core that won the 54 games was not there. The Free Agents saw it as very uncertain, which is why Monroe went to an already existing playoff team in Milwaukee.
 
I would really love just a single change. If we could somehow get McLemore while keeping Dame, CJ, Leonard, Vonleh, Plume and Aminu, we would have one helluva starting 5 and 2 very decent back-ups.

Dame, McLemore, Aminu, Leonard or Vonleh, Plumlee starting core.

Leonard or Vonleh, CJ and fill in the gaps for the rest is a dame good foundation to work on.
 
magnifier661 said:
I would really love just a single change. If we could somehow get McLemore while keeping Dame, CJ, Leonard, Vonleh, Plume and Aminu, we would have one helluva starting 5 and 2 very decent back-ups.

Dame, McLemore, Aminu, Leonard or Vonleh, Plumlee starting core.

Leonard or Vonleh, CJ and fill in the gaps for the rest is a dame good foundation to work on.
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Keep the dream alive!
 
magnifier661 said:
I would really love just a single change. If we could somehow get McLemore while keeping Dame, CJ, Leonard, Vonleh, Plume and Aminu, we would have one helluva starting 5 and 2 very decent back-ups.

Dame, McLemore, Aminu, Leonard or Vonleh, Plumlee starting core.

Leonard or Vonleh, CJ and fill in the gaps for the rest is a dame good foundation to work on.
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If we use our potential stars in CJ, Vonleh and Leonard in a trade for a true All star, we are right back where we were before with a great starting unit, and no bench. That doesn't win either, so I agree. I want to see the guys not fitting in used with cap space to get a trade for a disgruntled DMC or something.
 
magnifier661 said:
I would really love just a single change. If we could somehow get McLemore while keeping Dame, CJ, Leonard, Vonleh, Plume and Aminu, we would have one helluva starting 5 and 2 very decent back-ups.

Dame, McLemore, Aminu, Leonard or Vonleh, Plumlee starting core.

Leonard or Vonleh, CJ and fill in the gaps for the rest is a dame good foundation to work on.
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like I've said before... send Kaman and Crabbe to LAC, they send Crawford to SAC, they send us McLemore. Or something like that
 
BonesJones said:
like I've said before... send Kaman and Crabbe to LAC, they send Crawford to SAC, they send us McLemore. Or something like that
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If Sacremento or the Clippers want extra filler we take on Haywood and have Cleveland send picks or a player out to whoever

LAC Get: Chris Kaman, Allen Crabbe, POR future 2nd
SAC Get: Jamal Crawford, Rakeem Christmas, CLE future 2nd
POR Get: Ben McLemore, Brendan Haywood
CLE Get: Rights to Daniel Diez

We don't need Kaman, so it'd practically be turning Crabbe into McLemore, and its feasible from all sides. It'd be a total Neil Olshey trade.
 
BonesJones said:
If Sacremento or the Clippers want extra filler we take on Haywood and have Cleveland send picks or a player out to whoever

LAC Get: Chris Kaman, Allen Crabbe, POR future 2nd
SAC Get: Jamal Crawford, Rakeem Christmas, CLE future 2nd
POR Get: Ben McLemore, Brendan Haywood
CLE Get: Rights to Daniel Diez

We don't need Kaman, so it'd practically be turning Crabbe into McLemore, and its feasible from all sides. It'd be a total Neil Olshey trade.
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Perhaps the Clippers want Henderson to replace Crawford, in which case we'll need to wait another 5 weeks before that can happen.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Perhaps the Clippers want Henderson to replace Crawford, in which case we'll need to wait another 5 weeks before that can happen.
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I think the Clippers would prefer a 3 and D guy like Crabbe to backup Pierce. Somebody that could space for Stephenson, Rivers and CP3. And getting Kaman back to backup DeAndre would finally give them a low post presence other than Griffin. That plus a 2nd round pick is enough to get Crawford.

Sacremento will want to start Belinelli next to Rondo and Cousins for spacing reasons. Plug in Crawford off the bench and you have a top 5 NBA bench with Collison, Crawford, Butler, and Kofous
 
magnifier661 said:
WRONG! You can get a free agent if you have a core and cap space that reaches the second round of the playoffs. Example... If our team as it currently stands makes the playoffs, our chances are much greater to land a free agent. We lost out because our marquee player and core that won the 54 games was not there. The Free Agents saw it as very uncertain, which is why Monroe went to an already existing playoff team in Milwaukee.
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I so want to believe you .... but I've been hurt, so so many times before.... (slow music starting) You never close your eyes......
 
BonesJones said:
I'd love Labissiere. I think his ceiling is as good as Anthony Davis is right now... He'll be the best player from this next draft. If we're able to draft him and DMC is on the market I could see us trying to send out Vonleh Plumlee and some other pieces/picks. Skal and DMC would be awesome together.
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LMAO
 
KSF-ERIC said:
LMAO
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I dont know why the person with the worst takes in RipCityTwo history is digging up my posts from 6 years ago, but the fact that you have to go back that far is impressive! Anyway, Skal was the #1 prospect in high school at the time and a lot of scouts/experts were extremely high on him. I don't bat 100% on draft predictions but I'm sure you do. Hopefully you've given Cronin your resume, you genius. Just make sure you look up the definition of "ceiling" before your interview.
 
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