When does Portland get a Gift?

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Watching the Spurs get Jefferson for junk, and seeing the same sort of gift of Pau Gasol to the Lakers for nothing also is very frustrating. When do we get a great player for nothing? I love KP, but when do we get a great player for nothing? How about Chris Paul for a few youngs and scraps? It seems the teams that are great always get the gifts, while the others have to overpay or work our way up. The Spurs were considered old and probably not a threat to be a top four team, and now they are back in that window again. KP, get us our gift!
 
getting Oden was a gift. so we're all evened out on that kind of thing i think.
 
We could have had Rjeff for Junk (Raef's contract) at the trade deadline. I was in favor of the deal.
 
I guess my question is, were they gifts, or were they the weak department of the Blazers current management team. The one thing in common about the trades you mentioned is that they were salary dumps. The teams didn't care about anything coming back. All they wanted was to cut their bottom line on amount of cash going out. All of the guys coming back from the trade, would be hitting the road anyhow, or they count against your books. If you are over the salary cap, wax in has to = wax off so to speak. This means it doesn't matter who they traded with, as long as all the players can be written off immediately. So they don't care about waiting for a better offer. All the guys they want back are off the books, so they take the first deal available and don't give a shit.
 
craigehlo said:
We could have had Rjeff for Junk (Raef's contract) at the trade deadline. I was in favor of the deal.
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Why the hell would you want to sacrifice all of our cap space on a mediocre player like RJ? We can (and probably will) do a lot better with that same cap space this summer.

And people need to realize that this deal isn't exactly a "gift." It enables the Bucks to sign both Sessions and Villanueva, who are both equally (if not, better) as impactful as RJ.
 
I am thinking the draft of both Roy and LA were outright screw jobs for the respective trade partners, so he probably used up all of his gifts that year.

Though Jefferson for 3 expiring deals is pretty lop sided. I am sure Bucks fans are besides themselves with joy.

The same joy I felt when Portland managed to get a 3 million dollar trade exception for Ike DNPiago while doing nothing with RLEC.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Why the hell would you want to sacrifice all of our cap space on a mediocre player like RJ? We can (and probably will) do a lot better with that same cap space this summer.
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Now that the Jefferson deal makes Sessions far more likely to be retained by the Bucks, what will Portland actually do with all that cap space (roughly 7 million)?

My guess is Portland buys a draft pick or two and nothing else.
 
Not anytime soon because you idiot fans who run with the phrase pritchslap has every other GM in the league hating KP
 
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ODENISGOD said:
Not anytime soon because you idiot fans who run with the phrase pritchslap has every other GM in the league hating KP
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You on the other hand predicted the effects of our fandom on a league wide basis, and didn't get involved in its spread before you went around telling people to "keep it down before it's too late!" Idiots, all of us!
 
LittleAlex said:
I am thinking the draft of both Roy and LA were outright screw jobs for the respective trade partners, so he probably used up all of his gifts that year.

Though Jefferson for 3 expiring deals is pretty lop sided. I am sure Bucks fans are besides themselves with joy.

The same joy I felt when Portland managed to get a 3 million dollar trade exception for Ike DNPiago while doing nothing with RLEC.
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They are, actually, just from some quick lurking on their forums. It sounds like they've been clamoring for a rebuild for a while, this trade is recognition of that, and it lets them resign Sessions and Villanueva.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Why the hell would you want to sacrifice all of our cap space on a mediocre player like RJ? We can (and probably will) do a lot better with that same cap space this summer.

And people need to realize that this deal isn't exactly a "gift." It enables the Bucks to sign both Sessions and Villanueva, who are both equally (if not, better) as impactful as RJ.
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We won't have cap space next year, unless we decide not to re-up Roy and Aldridge :crazy::crazy:

We apparently didn't want to give up our cap space for pick #5, I'm sure Mcmillan is relieved.

We lost our chance at RJeff when we didn't use RLEC - they wanted expiring contracts.
 
When it trades for one

Raef for Jefferson last year was rumored in a lot of places. Apparently that wasn't crap like a lot of people thought it was.


KP refuses to trade for a veteran, and that has cost us some of these players.
 
There's no doubt in my mind we could've had RJeff for RLEC... but I'm not a big fan of his. He helps the Spurs out but that wasn't the right deal to make for us.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Butler for sure, but if none of those happen would you still rather pass on Jefferson?
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Yeah, I honestly think Jefferson would be horrible on our team. Similar to Shareef (not in how he plays, but just in terms of how he wouldn't actually fit in or contribute once here, despite having a "big name"). I'd much rather have Batum than RJ -- Batum's cheap and getting better, while RJ peaked four years ago and has easily replicable skills.

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I also don't really think RJ will help the Spurs much. I'm much happier to see them throw all their potential 2010 cap space away on RJ now than actually be able to go after a top-shelf free agent next year.
 
alex42083 said:
No Sessions.
No Jefferson.
No Butler.

Who's next?
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This practically take Minni out of the Capt. Kirk running, I suspect - so he will probably be our #1 target now, or at least I hope he would be - over Andre Miller.
 
andalusian said:
This practically take Minni out of the Capt. Kirk running, I suspect - so he will probably be our #1 target now, or at least I hope he would be - over Andre Miller.
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What does this have Minnesota have to do with Richard Jefferson going to the Spurs? Were you thinking of Al Jefferson?
 
Nikolokolus said:
What does this have Minnesota have to do with Richard Jefferson going to the Spurs? Were you thinking of Al Jefferson?
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I think he meant the Foye/Miller trade. Because now Minnesota has taken on enough bad contracts for them to be interested in Kirk.
 
axs88 said:
I think he meant the Foye/Miller trade. Because now Minnesota has taken on enough bad contracts for them to be interested in Kirk.
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Yeah I just noticed that deal ... I've been away from my puter for over 18 hours.
 
axs88 said:
I think he meant the Foye/Miller trade. Because now Minnesota has taken on enough bad contracts for them to be interested in Kirk.
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Correct. And they will also likely draft a PG there.
 
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