I guess that what bothers me about this year Rick. I feel that these players were abandon from the start. The needs were obvious from the end of last year. Catcher was so badly handled, Martin should have been resigned, plain and simple. He wanted to be here, he performed well here, and yet some asshole said that we can get by with Cervelli and Stewart. There is no defense to that logic. Now looking back, they left these guys out to dry. Sure, players failed, but we stayed with them through there failures and beyond.