Trade Where Would You Play Simmons

[Buffalo Custard]

I don't expect Simmons to be a Blazer, but I am curious what folks think is his best position. How would you maximize his value given his strengths and limitations?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I've said before that I just don't trust Nurk anymore. Ultimately, I'd want to play Ben at center, and deal Nurk for a stretch forward of some sort.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I've said before that I just don't trust Nurk anymore. Ultimately, I'd want to play Ben at center, and deal Nurk for a stretch forward of some sort.

I must have missed it. Why no trust? Injuries? Attitude? Lack of lateral movement?

curious.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I must have missed it. Why no trust? Injuries? Attitude? Lack of lateral movement?

curious.

Here was my post from a couple months ago.

I love what Nurk is capable of on the court, and love the impact he has on our defense. I too believe he can play all-star caliber basketball.

I just don't trust him.

I don't trust him to stay healthy. I don't trust him to stay out of foul trouble. I don't trust him to stay engaged all throughout a game. I don't trust him to not let opposing players, or referees, or unfortunate circumstances mess with his head. I don't trust him to put the ball in the basket when he is one foot away from it. And I don't think I'm alone in those sentiments.

As good as the guy can be, I don't think the team can rely upon a player that they can't trust.

Funny thing is, a lot of those same things could be said about Simmons...

 

[andalusian]

I would play him at PF and if he and Nurk can not coexist, you look for a replacement to Nurk that can play next to him.

 

[julius]

SF/PF combo, with "point forward" responsibilities. I.e., not having Dame always bring up the ball, and play Dame/Norm off of him.

 

[dviss1]

Why is Sacramento not a choice?

 

[tykendo]

Simmons would get eatin' for lunch by the quality centers in the League. Playing him at center would be a fail IMO. He's a PF who can distribute & play defense. And he sure as heck, better get his act in gear when it comes to scoring in key situations. He can't be passing the ball when he can dunk the ball in the post.

 

[dviss1]

Simmons would get eatin' for lunch by the quality centers in the League. Playing him at center would be a fail IMO. He's a PF who can distribute & play defense. And he sure as heck, better get his act in gear when it comes to scoring in key situations. He can't be passing the ball when he can dunk the ball in the post.

He can do that on some other team besides my favorite one.

 

[Idog1976]

I’d play Simmons at SF and RoCo at PF to begin with. Id use lots of backdoor cuts, off ball picks so he could slash and of course in the pick and roll with dame. Id also use him as a point forward on the break and then defer to Dame once the defense is set.

I’d also try it out first, but probably look to trade Nurk for Boucher or a similar player, possibly in a 3 team trade. I’d like to have a minimum of 3 good to great 3pt shooters on the floor with Ben at all times. Id also give him 100% of the backup PG minutes and use Nance, RoCo and Little to replace him when he needs rest. On defense I’d simply put him where he’s needed. Simmons would be a revelation for this team on defense and on the break. Im confident he can get to be a 70%+++ ft shooter with the right guidance and Dame is the best leader in sports.

Tbh, I am disturbed by people’s lack of faith in Dame’s ability to judge player’s strengths and weaknesses, and to get the best out of his teammates. Clearly Dame agrees with me on the potential with Simmons, hence he liked that Twitter post. Dame of course is aware his social media is under scrutiny and he is EXTREMELY savvy when it comes to social media. Everyone hating on Simmons is straight up saying they know better than Dame about how Simmons would fit in the team. I find that laughable.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I’d play Simmons at SF and RoCo at PF to begin with. Id use lots of backdoor cuts, off ball picks so he could slash and of course in the pick and roll with dame. Id also use him as a point forward on the break and then defer to Dame once the defense is set.

I’d also try it out first, but probably look to trade Nurk for Boucher or a similar player, possibly in a 3 team trade. I’d like to have a minimum of 3 good to great 3pt shooters on the floor with Ben at all times. Id also give him 100% of the backup PG minutes and use Nance, RoCo and Little to replace him when he needs rest. On defense I’d simply put him where he’s needed. Simmons would be a revelation for this team on defense and on the break. Im confident he can get to be a 70%+++ ft shooter with the right guidance and Dame is the best leader in sports.

Tbh, I am disturbed by people’s lack of faith in Dame’s ability to judge player’s strengths and weaknesses, and to get the best out of his teammates. Clearly Dame agrees with me on the potential with Simmons, hence he liked that Twitter post. Dame of course is aware his social media is under scrutiny and he is EXTREMELY savvy when it comes to social media. Everyone hating on Simmons is straight up saying they know better than Dame about how Simmons would fit in the team. I find that laughable.

I think that is because it seems we have seen him be overloyal to players who are known to not work.
Behind closed doors it may be a different situation but publicly he has backed all his teamates regardless, when its known some of them have had to go.

 

[blazerkor]

I’d play Simmons at SF and RoCo at PF to begin with. Id use lots of backdoor cuts, off ball picks so he could slash and of course in the pick and roll with dame. Id also use him as a point forward on the break and then defer to Dame once the defense is set.

I’d also try it out first, but probably look to trade Nurk for Boucher or a similar player, possibly in a 3 team trade. I’d like to have a minimum of 3 good to great 3pt shooters on the floor with Ben at all times. Id also give him 100% of the backup PG minutes and use Nance, RoCo and Little to replace him when he needs rest. On defense I’d simply put him where he’s needed. Simmons would be a revelation for this team on defense and on the break. Im confident he can get to be a 70%+++ ft shooter with the right guidance and Dame is the best leader in sports.

Tbh, I am disturbed by people’s lack of faith in Dame’s ability to judge player’s strengths and weaknesses, and to get the best out of his teammates. Clearly Dame agrees with me on the potential with Simmons, hence he liked that Twitter post. Dame of course is aware his social media is under scrutiny and he is EXTREMELY savvy when it comes to social media. Everyone hating on Simmons is straight up saying they know better than Dame about how Simmons would fit in the team. I find that laughable.

If I could get all parties to agree, I would do these two trades today... I'm combining them into one for the sake of aesthetic. The rotation would be: Dame, Norm, Nance, Simmons, Boucher, Maxey, Ant, Nas, Zeller, Snell. I would not have Simmons play PG ever... that's not to say he couldn't bring the ball up the court in some sets but he would be a PF/C like Dray.

 

[Idog1976]

If I could get all parties to agree, I would do these two trades today... I'm combining them into one for the sake of aesthetic. The rotation would be: Dame, Norm, Nance, Simmons, Boucher, Maxey, Ant, Nas, Zeller, Snell. I would not have Simmons play PG ever... that's not to say he couldn't bring the ball up the court in some sets but he would be a PF/C like Dray.
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Yeah that trade seems to create some log jams, but it solves a LOT of problems. Do you think Maxey over Curry though? We will need shooters and Maxey thus far hasn't seemed to be that. I guess if we are keeping Ant and Nas (I think he will break out as a 3pt threat this year) we are pretty good on shooters.

 

[tykendo]

If I could get all parties to agree, I would do these two trades today... I'm combining them into one for the sake of aesthetic. The rotation would be: Dame, Norm, Nance, Simmons, Boucher, Maxey, Ant, Nas, Zeller, Snell. I would not have Simmons play PG ever... that's not to say he couldn't bring the ball up the court in some sets but he would be a PF/C like Dray.
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Sorry Bro, but you'd destroy team chemistry with those moves, IMO. I'd pass. Plus why would the Raptors do that.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Personally I would not play him anywhere. I have a feeling he'd kick my ass.

 

[blazerkor]

Yeah that trade seems to create some log jams, but it solves a LOT of problems. Do you think Maxey over Curry though? We will need shooters and Maxey thus far hasn't seemed to be that. I guess if we are keeping Ant and Nas (I think he will break out as a 3pt threat this year) we are pretty good on shooters.

I think they'd give us Maxey over Curry. I also like Maxey because he's really good at initiating offense... yes he's a scoring PG but there's no question he's a PG. As far as logjams go... I actually look at that as switchability. There are a lot of players on that roster that can defend multiple positions and do it really well.

 

[blazerkor]

Sorry Bro, but you'd destroy team chemistry with those moves, IMO. I'd pass. Plus why would the Raptors do that.

I guess I overvalue Nurk according to you... they have shooters all around Nurk, they need more ball distributors and they could use a true big. I think Dragic, FVV, OG, Siakam and Nurk is a much better starting lineup than what they currently have. I actually think Nurk given his age, size and abilities is worth more than Boucher, just not to us if we have Simmons.

As far as chemistry goes, I'm kind of sick of hearing that argument. Our current "chemistry" has us exiting the playoffs in the first round.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I’d play him as mix of point and SF. Defensively I’d play him on other teams best player unless it’s center, mix in Nance on bigger PF’s.

thinking of this team defensively would be so gooood!!! Powel, Simmons, Roco, Nance, Nurk

 

[tykendo]

I guess I overvalue Nurk according to you... they have shooters all around Nurk, they need more ball distributors and they could use a true big. I think Dragic, FVV, OG, Siakam and Nurk is a much better starting lineup than what they currently have. I actually think Nurk given his age, size and abilities is worth more than Boucher, just not to us if we have Simmons.

As far as chemistry goes, I'm kind of sick of hearing that argument. Our current "chemistry" has us exiting the playoffs in the first round.

I actually think you value Nurk correctly. I think he will have a Beast season under Billups tutelage. I don't want to trade him at all. Especially for Bouche, who is not a center.

 

[blazerkor]

I’d play him as mix of point and SF. Defensively I’d play him on other teams best player unless it’s center, mix in Nance on bigger PF’s.

The dude is 6'10" and 250 lbs. He's strong and quick. He can defend any C in the league and definitely big PFs.

 

[blazerkor]

I actually think you value Nurk correctly. I think he will have a Beast season under Billups tutelage. I don't want to trade him at all. Especially for Bouche, who is not a center.

We disagree on if Nance, Boucher and Simmons would be a good front court but I agree that without a bigger space eater, Boucher isn't the best guy to play the 5. That's why I think Toronto would do it.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

The dude is 6'10" and 250 lbs. He's strong and quick. He can defend any C in the league and definitely big PFs.

Most centers he can defend but why waste him guarding centers? He’s a shut down defender you play him on best player which is almost always a guard or sf. Few exceptions AD and Jokic

 

[blazerkor]

Most centers he can defend but why waste him guarding centers? He’s a shut down defender you play him on best player which is almost always a guard or sf. Few exceptions AD and Jokic

Totally with you on that... I was just saying he's capable. I'd also play him on Embiid when we play the Sixers both because it's the right match up and because it's great drama.

 

[tykendo]

Totally with you on that... I was just saying he's capable. I'd also play him on Embiid when we play the Sixers both because it's the right match up and because it's great drama.

Embiid would hurt him. He's a freak of nature. Nurk has done well up against him.

 

[Phatguysrule]

PF mostly.

 

[calvin natt]

He’s a PF who handles the ball a ton and can bring the ball up, initiate the offense etc. Not center. I am curious why some think he’d be a great pick n roll/pop guy with Lillard. I feel like as a defender you pretty much know exactly what to give up with Ben - a shot. Like anything outside ten feet you leave him alone.

 

[Orion Bailey]

He’s a PF who handles the ball a ton and can bring the ball up, initiate the offense etc. Not center. I am curious why some think he’d be a great pick n roll/pop guy with Lillard. I feel like as a defender you pretty much know exactly what to give up with Ben - a shot. Like anything outside ten feet you leave him alone.

watch the video above.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I would play him on a basketball court.

 

[calvin natt]

watch the video above.

And? I didn’t see any pick and rolls in the first few mins. Second, highlight videos don’t do it for me. You could make an amazing highlight video of CJ. Like Hall of Fame worthy

 

[wizenheimer]

And? I didn’t see any pick and rolls in the first few mins. Second, highlight videos don’t do it for me. You could make an amazing highlight video of CJ. Like Hall of Fame worthy