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Re: "White Guilt"
Michael Bryants comments in the Sharpton thread got me thinking about this whole white guilt trip that Political correctness has pretty much imposed on the majority of society. Now it's no secret that I hate the whole PC nonesense, but I was wondering; do you we should have this white guilt in society today?before you answer I want you to read this though. throughout history humans have done some very bad things to other groups of humans for to many reasons to list. yet we always hear about the bad things that Caucasians have done, yet we rarely hear about the bad stuff other groups have done. we're all familiar with African slavery, the Haulicaust, the treatment of indiginous natives ect by white people, but we never hear the whole story, on in how most cases other members of whatever ethnic group gets nearly exterminated, that they were helped by others of their ethnic group.I'll give you some examples of this; when the Spanish invaded the Aztec empire, it's always told how big bad Cortez slaughtered millions of Aztecs. yet no one mentions the aid from the enemies of the Aztecs, and the woman called Mechica(sp?) without their help it's likely Cortez never would have succeeded in his conquest. the Aztecs were also one of the most vial and barbaric civilizations in history. they would rip the still beating hearts out of people, yet that seems to be acceptable because they aren't white.No one will ever admit that African slavery was not a white institution, but rather an African institution. Africans had been inslaving each other for centuries before any whites went and did the same thing. Infact the whites rarely went out and just captured an African, in most cases they bought already captured Africans from other Africans. The Benin, who are an African tribe who got real wealthy from the slave trade, had the 3rd largest army in the entire world in 1800, behind only France and Britian, not only did they have the third largest their army was the most well equipied in the world with the most modern firearms. The reason they got so many firearms is because they'd trade slaves for firearms, since they didn't value gold so much as Westerners did. If you got west Africa today and goto the old European fortresses, you will see that the batteries at not pointed in land, but rather to sea. this tells you that the Europeans didn't feel war was comming with any Africans, because if they felt war was possibly they'd have batteries pointing inland. if they were constantly going out capturing slaves, they would have to fear retribution for those tribes. Another thing which isn't mentioned is well before the Western Europeans entered into the slave trade, the Turks and Chinese were in it. Both of these groups made unics out of the males, that is they casterated them. most the males they did this too were between 8 and 22, and 9 out of 10 of them would die. Slavery also is still practiced in Africa, and in the mid east. yet we never here about the modern day african slave traders, we always hear about the Russian slave trades.The history books are full of bad things that whites did to Native Americans, how we stole their land, gave them diese, and murdered them. yet they hardly mention that the old fashion america tale of Cowboys and Indians is a crock of sh*t. in only a few cases was it cowboys and indians. in most cases in was cowboys, indians vs indians. the native tribes would settle their disputes by helping the army fight their rivals, so why aren't these bands of indians held accountable for their own demise?The Plague which ravaged Europe in 1347 was actually caused because of Mongol germ warfare. the mongols threw diesed bodies over the city walls in Odessa(rather I think it was Odessa) this caused the deaths of millions in Europe, the near east, the far east, and Africa. The Japanese will never admit to their war crimes in world war 2, yet their become all upset at the mention of the atom bombs and how that was a war crime. but they deny their treatment of POWs; their actions at Nanking were so repulsive that it made a senior Nazi officer cringe, a guy who have previously overaw the deathcamps; their diliberate attack on civilians with their balloon bombs which caused hugh forrest fires in Oregon they deny; they also don't like being thought of as the agressor in WWII dispite attacking the neutral nations of China, United States, Australia and possibly Mexico.These are just some of the cases showing that being vial and mean is a common human thread. so why does one race always seem to get the stigma of being the worst?So why should I have to appologize for what my ancestors did when those who are upset had ancestors who are just as guilty? my acestry is of Norse, Irish, Russian, and Creek, and they have been invoved in many gruesome events in history. but I didn't raid Lindisfarne, I didn't impail the brits at Killkenny, I wasn't involved with the massacre at Tabrizi, nor did I have slaves; but my ancestors probably did and I'm not going to appolgize for what they did. I'm sorry your ancestors went through those events, but this is life and life is hard and only the strongest survive. your ancestors were obviousy strong or you wouldn't be here today, can't you take consellation in that fact?PS anything that didn't make sense is because I'm tired and my brain is fried from doing math for 10 hours.
Michael Bryants comments in the Sharpton thread got me thinking about this whole white guilt trip that Political correctness has pretty much imposed on the majority of society. Now it's no secret that I hate the whole PC nonesense, but I was wondering; do you we should have this white guilt in society today?before you answer I want you to read this though. throughout history humans have done some very bad things to other groups of humans for to many reasons to list. yet we always hear about the bad things that Caucasians have done, yet we rarely hear about the bad stuff other groups have done. we're all familiar with African slavery, the Haulicaust, the treatment of indiginous natives ect by white people, but we never hear the whole story, on in how most cases other members of whatever ethnic group gets nearly exterminated, that they were helped by others of their ethnic group.I'll give you some examples of this; when the Spanish invaded the Aztec empire, it's always told how big bad Cortez slaughtered millions of Aztecs. yet no one mentions the aid from the enemies of the Aztecs, and the woman called Mechica(sp?) without their help it's likely Cortez never would have succeeded in his conquest. the Aztecs were also one of the most vial and barbaric civilizations in history. they would rip the still beating hearts out of people, yet that seems to be acceptable because they aren't white.No one will ever admit that African slavery was not a white institution, but rather an African institution. Africans had been inslaving each other for centuries before any whites went and did the same thing. Infact the whites rarely went out and just captured an African, in most cases they bought already captured Africans from other Africans. The Benin, who are an African tribe who got real wealthy from the slave trade, had the 3rd largest army in the entire world in 1800, behind only France and Britian, not only did they have the third largest their army was the most well equipied in the world with the most modern firearms. The reason they got so many firearms is because they'd trade slaves for firearms, since they didn't value gold so much as Westerners did. If you got west Africa today and goto the old European fortresses, you will see that the batteries at not pointed in land, but rather to sea. this tells you that the Europeans didn't feel war was comming with any Africans, because if they felt war was possibly they'd have batteries pointing inland. if they were constantly going out capturing slaves, they would have to fear retribution for those tribes. Another thing which isn't mentioned is well before the Western Europeans entered into the slave trade, the Turks and Chinese were in it. Both of these groups made unics out of the males, that is they casterated them. most the males they did this too were between 8 and 22, and 9 out of 10 of them would die. Slavery also is still practiced in Africa, and in the mid east. yet we never here about the modern day african slave traders, we always hear about the Russian slave trades.The history books are full of bad things that whites did to Native Americans, how we stole their land, gave them diese, and murdered them. yet they hardly mention that the old fashion america tale of Cowboys and Indians is a crock of sh*t. in only a few cases was it cowboys and indians. in most cases in was cowboys, indians vs indians. the native tribes would settle their disputes by helping the army fight their rivals, so why aren't these bands of indians held accountable for their own demise?The Plague which ravaged Europe in 1347 was actually caused because of Mongol germ warfare. the mongols threw diesed bodies over the city walls in Odessa(rather I think it was Odessa) this caused the deaths of millions in Europe, the near east, the far east, and Africa. The Japanese will never admit to their war crimes in world war 2, yet their become all upset at the mention of the atom bombs and how that was a war crime. but they deny their treatment of POWs; their actions at Nanking were so repulsive that it made a senior Nazi officer cringe, a guy who have previously overaw the deathcamps; their diliberate attack on civilians with their balloon bombs which caused hugh forrest fires in Oregon they deny; they also don't like being thought of as the agressor in WWII dispite attacking the neutral nations of China, United States, Australia and possibly Mexico.These are just some of the cases showing that being vial and mean is a common human thread. so why does one race always seem to get the stigma of being the worst?So why should I have to appologize for what my ancestors did when those who are upset had ancestors who are just as guilty? my acestry is of Norse, Irish, Russian, and Creek, and they have been invoved in many gruesome events in history. but I didn't raid Lindisfarne, I didn't impail the brits at Killkenny, I wasn't involved with the massacre at Tabrizi, nor did I have slaves; but my ancestors probably did and I'm not going to appolgize for what they did. I'm sorry your ancestors went through those events, but this is life and life is hard and only the strongest survive. your ancestors were obviousy strong or you wouldn't be here today, can't you take consellation in that fact?PS anything that didn't make sense is because I'm tired and my brain is fried from doing math for 10 hours.
