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“It was just not what we expected.”

"I was depressed by the time I left."

". . . the tour was more of a scolding of the old South."

"The brief mentions of the former owners were defamatory."

"Would not recommend."

These are a few of the apparently negative reviews posted online about guided tours of southern plantations, some of which went viral Thursday after former Colorado congressional candidate Saira Rao tweeted a screenshot of one.

In 1860, the census counted approximately 4 million enslaved people in the United States, according to Politifact.

"Would not recommend. Tour was all about how hard it was for the slaves," said one reviewer of the Whitney Plantation in Louisiana.

Slaves who lived on plantations typically worked 10-16 hours a day, six days a week, according to the University of Houston's Digital History. Children as young as 3 were put to work.

"I was depressed by the time I left and questioned why anyone would want to live in South Carolina," said one review posted to Twitter about the McLeod Plantation in Charleston.

In 1860, there 402,406 people were living in South Carolina not because they wanted to but because they were enslaved. They made up 57 percent of the state's population, according to census data.

"I felt [the African American tour guide] embellished her presentation and was racist towards me as a white person," another McLeod visitor said.

"Our guide Olivia offered a heavy bias with only the hand-picked facts that neatly fit her narrative and for a large part weren't germane to a plantation tour," one person said of the McLeod Plantation, according to a review posted to Twitter, before following up with the racist comment, "I found it amusing when she told us some freed slaves fled to northern cities like Baltimore and Detroit, where they continued to thrive to this day!"

As many as 100,000 people escaped slavery through the Underground Railroad, according to historian James Banks .

"There is really nothing good you can say about slavery but I felt [the tour guide] took it too far. His information is correct, but I think he left off part of the story," one review read.

This month, Virginia will commemorate the arrival of the first enslaved Africans in 1619, which ushered in 246 years of brutal subjugation for millions of men, women and children. One of those slaves was named Angela.

"If you're looking to visit a traditional plantation, look elsewhere," review said.

Many plantations, including George Washington's Mount Vernon and Thomas Jefferson's Monticello, are working to present a more accurate image of what life was like for slaves and slave owners.

For those who may prefer a fuzzier, less accurate portrayal of plantation life, “Gone with the Wind” is streaming on Amazon and iTunes for $3.99 - a low price, but still higher than the average slave’s wage, which was $0.

-- The Washington Post

https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2...t-slavery-at-plantations-built-by-slaves.html
 
I was do disappointed when Auschwitz kept bringing up the dying and murder of jews.

As if that's the only thing we should learn about concentration camps

So many ovens and not a decent pizza anywhere.
 

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There were about 100,000 of those that owned slaves out of the 32 million when the war started. More than 100 million came to this country since then and none ever owned a slave. My guess is, not many ever wanted to either.
 
I guess I can see being upset if you thought you were just touring a beautiful location and didn't want any historical context.

If you were going on a tour that made it clear that you were getting a tour of how a plantation ran and what life was like for the people on it, then you really wouldn't have any excuse.

With that said, if the tour guides were being hostile towards any white people on the tour, I can imagine being upset about that. I think it just depends on how the tour was marketed and what people were expecting. Comparing a plantation to Auschwitz is a little extreme because plantations are still homes. People still live in them. They're used for things like weddings. Auschwitz was built to kill people and it was never used for anything else. You don't visit Auschwitz as a possible location for a wedding.
 
Dude. The fuck did they expect?

Please show how fucking horrible we were. Dont hide history. I dont want that shit happening again.

We're the only folks told to get over our ongoing holocaust.

Fuck you if you believe this.
 
I guess I can see being upset if you thought you were just touring a beautiful location and didn't want any historical context.

If you were going on a tour that made it clear that you were getting a tour of how a plantation ran and what life was like for the people on it, then you really wouldn't have any excuse.

With that said, if the tour guides were being hostile towards any white people on the tour, I can imagine being upset about that. I think it just depends on how the tour was marketed and what people were expecting. Comparing a plantation to Auschwitz is a little extreme because plantations are still homes. People still live in them. They're used for things like weddings. Auschwitz was built to kill people and it was never used for anything else. You don't visit Auschwitz as a possible location for a wedding.

To be fair, I can't imagine touring a plantation to get a feeling of how slavery was either. Just can't see put out really money for that picture.
 
I guess I can see being upset if you thought you were just touring a beautiful location and didn't want any historical context.

If you were going on a tour that made it clear that you were getting a tour of how a plantation ran and what life was like for the people on it, then you really wouldn't have any excuse.

With that said, if the tour guides were being hostile towards any white people on the tour, I can imagine being upset about that. I think it just depends on how the tour was marketed and what people were expecting. Comparing a plantation to Auschwitz is a little extreme because plantations are still homes. People still live in them. They're used for things like weddings. Auschwitz was built to kill people and it was never used for anything else. You don't visit Auschwitz as a possible location for a wedding.

I think it's pretty clear what to expect on their website.

https://www.ccprc.com/1447/McLeod-Plantation-Historic-Site
 
There were about 100,000 of those that owned slaves out of the 32 million when the war started. More than 100 million came to this country since then and none ever owned a slave. My guess is, not many ever wanted to either.

A lot more than that. You are down playing it. You also assume that non slave holding whites had no role or benefit from slavery.

Yes, many of our ancestors came after slavery was abolished. But, those of us who have learned no lesson from it, refuse to see the effect of it in today's society, who dimiss and attempt to disqualify themselves from responsibility, well shame on them.
 
I guess I can see being upset if you thought you were just touring a beautiful location and didn't want any historical context.

If you were going on a tour that made it clear that you were getting a tour of how a plantation ran and what life was like for the people on it, then you really wouldn't have any excuse.

With that said, if the tour guides were being hostile towards any white people on the tour, I can imagine being upset about that. I think it just depends on how the tour was marketed and what people were expecting. Comparing a plantation to Auschwitz is a little extreme because plantations are still homes. People still live in them. They're used for things like weddings. Auschwitz was built to kill people and it was never used for anything else. You don't visit Auschwitz as a possible location for a wedding.

I would never have a wedding or any event there
 
We're the only folks told to get over our ongoing holocaust.

Fuck you if you believe this.

Yep. Its fucked. Our race is complicit in so many nasty ways in terms of the history of this country. It should not be shelved or hidden.

Like i always say. Own. Your. Shit.
 
A lot more than that. You are down playing it. You also assume that non slave holding whites had no role or benefit from slavery.

Yes, many of our ancestors came after slavery was abolished. But, those of us who have learned no lesson from it, refuse to see the effect of it in today's society, who dimiss and attempt to disqualify themselves from responsibility, well shame on them.

Yep. The north made a ton of money off slavery in the south.
 
You also assume that non slave holding whites had no role or benefit from slavery.

>>>Sure they did. Damn near a million of them died in the war or as a result of it.

disqualify themselves from responsibility
>>> Yep, my family came much later, when my dad was a young boy.

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Those houses look very much like the one I rented when the house I had been living in burned down. I was almost 16 then, damn glad to find something I could afford.
In retrospect, I think it was the good heart of the old boy that owned it.
 
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>>>Sure they did. Damn near a million of them died in the war or as a result of it.


>>> Yep, my family came much later, when my dad was a young boy.

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Those houses look very much like the one I rented when the one I had been living in burned down. I was almost 16 then, damn glad to find something I could afford.
In retrospect, I think it was the good heart of the old boy that owned it.

The majority of those who died gave their lives to end slavery. The Union won, sorry if you would have preferred it went the other way. You good old boy you.
 

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