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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jun 27 2007, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is not just blaming the white folk. You sound like you're trying to defend yourself and your when there is no cause for you to do so.I'm just going to give you this, since the way I put it isn't logical to you:http://www.gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll...16045/1002/NEWSThis is basically things that me and the other guy have been saying:This idea has been repeated over and over again, black and white analysts alike have said it. You don't have to agree, you can just sweep it under the rug like a lot of people are doing, but you can't hide the argument.So Justice, you see, the fact that slavery impacted a large number of African Americans, the so called "trait" that we speak of has been passed down from generation to generation. It is not the same thing as your example of a white guy blaming his great bla blah for being deadbeat. Whites weren't the ones enslaved. It is the same thing as why blacks today have heart issues; we were given salted pork and fatty meals during slavery and it became a staple of our diet in the future. Genetically, high blood pressure and other heart ailments were passed down as well.</div>I'm not defending myself, because as I thought I clearly stated before, I have no reason to do so. I am quite sick of the black culture being one of finger-pointing. I'm sure at some point, people will realize that they can't blame their parents for everything, but I'm not sure in which century that will occur.I never claimed that there weren't people that agreed. I made the point that the logic behind it is flawed. Lack of education is a better and more direct explanation which applies to everyone, not just a person who has colored skin. It's a more practical, reasonable, and logical explanation. I'm not sweeping any argument under the rug, and it is simply asinine to say I am. I have argued against it, and you have provided little reason for me to agree. That is why I disagree. Have you ever had that feeling when something was poorly reasoned and weakly supported and so you replied, "Gee, I don't believe that!" Well, that is the same feeling I have now. It's kinda funny, because both white and black people can disagree with points that are poorly argued without feeling guilty.There are many non-blacks who have gone through things worse than slavery in the past 130 years, and I would laugh in their face if current descendants blamed said ancestors for their problems. It is extremely asinine.
 
Anybody ever ask a black cop what would happen if he shot an unarmed white boy? I did a few years ago. It was an ugly response.I asked my cousin (DPD) once if she thought that police were the system's answer to street thugs. Walter Mosley had given me that idea in one of his novels I had just read. Thugs for taxpayers. She agreed promptly.
 
White people can be orange and pink and red and blue and green. And yet black people are referred to as "coloured" (Canadian Spelling).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>White people can be orange and pink and red and blue and green. And yet black people are referred to as "coloured" (Canadian Spelling).</div>Oompa loompas, Indians, Smurfs, Aliens are not considered white people!
 
Where the hell do you live that you see red, blue and green white people?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 27 2007, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not defending myself, because as I thought I clearly stated before, I have no reason to do so. I am quite sick of the black culture being one of finger-pointing. I'm sure at some point, people will realize that they can't blame their parents for everything, but I'm not sure in which century that will occur.</div>Do you really believe that white people are metaphorically comparable to, or are indeed, the parents of black people? Seems like a rather condescending, or oppressive, subconscious attitude.The ole Great White Father.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>There are many non-blacks who have gone through things worse than slavery in the past 130 years, and I would laugh in their face if current descendants blamed said ancestors for their problems. It is extremely asinine.</div>I'm not sure if I can agree or disagree with that first sentence. I do know that you'd be hard pressed to find a group of people, separated by skin-color, who put up with anything like American slavery for 300 years, and then got told their free to get they ass whooped, lynched, imprisoned... And when exactly did black people squirm from under the nasty thumb of oppression in this country? I know you're a history guy. Was it anti-lynching laws? Affirmative Action? Reagan signing MLK's birthday into law? Clinton going out of his way to federally prosecute the officers that beat up Rodney King? If it's a legal thing, alot of legal things countered them as soon as they were signed into law.Cats is talking out of both sides of they mouths on this issue.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pronk48 @ Jun 28 2007, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>black people are gay, like gentile... LMAO</div>I don't want to believe that this is best you can come up with to get it started with me. I thought you were a superior white guy. Are you faking?You gotta be worthy to be my enemy. So I'll wait.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Do you really believe that white people are metaphorically comparable to, or are indeed, the parents of black people? Seems like a rather condescending, or oppressive, subconscious attitude.The ole Great White Father.</div>If I may intercede on this, since you appear to have misinterpreted Justice again, I believe he was saying that they can't blame the lack of a father (literal parents) and the plight of their ancestors (metaphorical parents), I don't get the sense that he was asserting that whites were black people's parents.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 28 2007, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't want to believe that this is best you can come up with to get it started with me. I thought you were a superior white guy. Are you faking?You gotta be worthy to be my enemy. So I'll wait.</div>I was just impersonating another poster.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Jun 28 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If I may intercede on this, since you appear to have misinterpreted Justice again, I believe he was saying that they can't blame the lack of a father (literal parents) and the plight of their ancestors (metaphorical parents), I don't get the sense that he was asserting that whites were black people's parents.</div>He might have mispoken, but I gotta accept my initial and secondary analysis of this post. Even if the context of the previous posts written weren't fixed on giving a certain amount of responsibility to whites for black peoples' current condition...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I am quite sick of the black culture being one of finger-pointing. I'm sure at some point, people will realize that they can't blame their parents for everything, but I'm not sure in which century that will occur.</div>...how could I have interpreted otherwise? For serious.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pronk48 @ Jun 28 2007, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was just impersonating another poster.</div>I'm sorry if I was so sensitive. The long hair always starts gay rumors.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 28 2007, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you really believe that white people are metaphorically comparable to, or are indeed, the parents of black people? Seems like a rather condescending, or oppressive, subconscious attitude.The ole Great White Father.</div>Where the hell do you come up with this crap? :no1: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 28 2007, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure if I can agree or disagree with that first sentence. I do know that you'd be hard pressed to find a group of people, separated by skin-color, who put up with anything like American slavery for 300 years, and then got told their free to get they ass whooped, lynched, imprisoned... And when exactly did black people squirm from under the nasty thumb of oppression in this country? I know you're a history guy. Was it anti-lynching laws? Affirmative Action? Reagan signing MLK's birthday into law? Clinton going out of his way to federally prosecute the officers that beat up Rodney King? If it's a legal thing, alot of legal things countered them as soon as they were signed into law.Cats is talking out of both sides of they mouths on this issue.</div>Oh yeah, you're right. I gotcha. White people made you bad fathers. I'm sorry.edit: I'm not a history guy
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 28 2007, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He might have mispoken, but I gotta accept my initial and secondary analysis of this post. Even if the context of the previous posts written weren't fixed on giving a certain amount of responsibility to whites for black peoples' current condition......how could I have interpreted otherwise? For serious.I'm sorry if I was so sensitive. The long hair always starts gay rumors.</div>you have long hair?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pronk48 @ Jun 28 2007, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you have long hair?</div>Affirmative.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>edit: I'm not a history guy</div>That explains it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 28 2007, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That explains it.</div>Oh yeah, you've got me pinned into the corner now! Obviously since black people have had a hard time historically, that makes them bad fathers! I see the connection now! Thanks for enlightening me!
 
Look I can find videos of black guys who can't rapAnd white guys who can
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 28 2007, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>...how could I have interpreted otherwise? For serious.</div>I'm sorry, but the phrase "I'm sure at some point, people will realize that they can't blame their parents for everything" has far more than one interpretation, especially in a discussion about the black culture of lacking fathers, and the interpretation you chose was one I'd only expect somebody like Al Sharpton to choose and made little sense in context.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Jun 28 2007, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and the interpretation you chose was one I'd only expect somebody like Al Sharpton to choose and made little sense in context.</div>lolololololol
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pronk48 @ Jun 28 2007, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look I can find videos of black guys who can't rapAnd white guys who can</div>The White Rapper was just as bad as the black video in those comparisons.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Jun 28 2007, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry, but the phrase "I'm sure at some point, people will realize that they can't blame their parents for everything" has far more than one interpretation, especially in a discussion about the black culture of lacking fathers, and the interpretation you chose was one I'd only expect somebody like Al Sharpton to choose and made little sense in context.</div>Oh really? Well have at it, genius. Take a crack at interpreting this, and let Justice do the same thing, or type "lol" whenever you call me Al Sharpton. Please tell me in detail, how I misinterpreted this post:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not defending myself, because as I thought I clearly stated before, I have no reason to do so. I am quite sick of the black culture being one of finger-pointing. I'm sure at some point, people will realize that they can't blame their parents for everything, but I'm not sure in which century that will occur.</div>Contextually, noballer pointing his finger at white folks, and Justice was turning it right around. Is he accusing noballer of pointing the finger at black fathers? Why isn't he agreeing with him if that's the case?If I missed something, enlighten me and I'll push on. <u>My</u> mind is open to my own fallibility. Also, Justice still hasn't answered a rather tame question I asked by comparison. Does he really believe that black people are somehow the children of whites?
 
Ya'll talk a lot of popular TV mess on Sharpton, but he'd whoop your ass. You couldn't carry his perm kit. He's been batting a low percentage lately, eager to get on TV. But in the eighties, people were still shooting over this issue in New York, and he was in the middle of it. Whole communities yelling "nigger" at protesters. A Jewish cat got shot in the Crown Height Riots and another incident where he said some inflammatory words. Brawley, that Duke LaCrosse case. He makes mistakes, yes.But he gets a few right too.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 29 2007, 05:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also, Justice still hasn't answered a rather tame question I asked by comparison. Does he really believe that black people are somehow the children of whites?</div>I didn't respond to it in a serious manner, because it is literally one of the stupidest questions I have ever seen.
 
Man, I'm just seeking clarity on one statement. You can call questions stupid, or flame me or whatever, but please address it. Tragically, The Pestilence has attempted to defend that "stop blaming their parents" outburst with more energy than you have and you wrote it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gentile @ Jun 29 2007, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man, I'm just seeking clarity on one statement. You can call questions stupid, or flame me or whatever, but please address it. Tragically, The Pestilence has attempted to defend that "stop blaming their parents" outburst with more energy than you have and you wrote it.</div>I did address it. I called it stupid.It's not tragic that he talked more about it than I did, but it is rather tragic that you can't understand why I'm being so damn sarcastic. I guess.
 
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