Who are top10 free agents you want my Blazers to pursue?

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I think we should add a pass-first PG, don't really have that kind of player.
 
There are 2 things that really don't exist in the NBA anymore... Pass 1st pgs and offensively dominant centers.
 
Ridnour I consider a pass-first PG. also Livingston, Sessions, Rubio, Andre Miller, Eric Maynor, Rondo... there are many.
 
I posted this in another thread, but it seems to apply here -

There are 9 teams that definitely need a starting PG or backup PG:
- Toronto
- Miami
- San Antonio
- Chicago
- Golden State
- Brooklyn
- Charlotte
- Memphis
- Portland

The top unrestricted free agent PGs:
- Kyle Lowry (17.9 ppg, 7.4 apg, 20.2 PER) - Toronto needs a starting PG. Since they are over the cap and have bird rights to Kyle Lowry, they will probably either re-sign him, or S&T. Kyle Lowery is essentially off the board unless the Blazers are willing to give up assets beyond the MLE or BAE.
- Mario Chalmers (9.8 ppg, 4.9 apg, 14.1 PER)- Miami needs a starting PG. Since they are over the cap and have bird rights to Mario Chalmers, they will probably either re-sign him, or S&T. Mario Chalmers is essentially off the board unless the Blazers are willing to give up assets beyond the MLE or BAE.
- Shaun Livingston (8.3 ppg, 3.2 apg, 14.5 PER) - Brooklyn needs a backup PG. They are over the tax, and can only offer Livingston their BAE ($2.1M), or tax-MLE ($3.3M).
- Patty Mills (10.2 ppg, 1.8 apg, 18.8 PER) - SA needs a backup PG. They will be near tax levels. They have Bird rights, so more than likely they will re-sign him, or offer their BAE ($2.1M) or MLE ($5.3M).
- DJ Augustin (13.1 ppg, 4.4 apg, 16.2 PER) - Chicago needs a backup PG. They will be over the CAP. They have non-Bird rights (sign up to 120% of last year's salary), so more than likely they will re-sign him, or offer their BAE ($2.1M) or MLE ($5.3M).
- Ramon Sessions (12.3 ppg, 4.1 apg, 16.0 PER) - Milwaukee doesn't need a backup PG. They have Knight & Wolters.
- Aaron Brooks (9.0 ppg, 3.2 apg, 12.5 PER) - Denver doesn't need a backup PG. They have Lawson & Robinson. They own non-bird rights to Brooks if they want to use it for potential S&T.
- Steve Blake (6.9 ppg, 5.6 apg, 11.1 PER) - GS needs a backup PG. They will be near the tax level. Since they are near the tax level and have bird rights to Blake, they will either re-sign him, or S&T. Blake is essentially off the board unless the Blazers are willing to give up assets beyond the MLE or BAE.
- Rodney Stuckey (13.9 ppg, 2.1 apg, 14.0 PER) - Detroit doesn't need a backup PG. They have Jennings & Bynum. Detroit is over the Cap. They have Bird rights for Stuckey.
- Jordan Farmar (10.1 ppg, 4.9 apg, 15.1 PER) – LAL don’t need a backup PG. They have Nash & Marshall. They have Cap room if they renounce some of their players like Gasol and Kaman. They have non-Bird rights to Farmar.
- Mo Williams (9.7 ppg, 4.3 apg, 11.9 PER) – Portland has non-Bird rights (120%).

That leave Charlotte (under Cap), Memphis (tax) and Portland (over Cap) looking to sign:
- Shaun Livingston
- Ramon Sessions
- Aaron Brooks
- Rodney Stuckey
- Jordan Farmar
If none of those work out, we’re looking at bringing Mo back.

Remember, last year we signed Mo for $2.6M, and Wright for $3.0M. A solid backup, 6th or 7th man will be looking to get $3M-$5M. Since Brooklyn has their tax-MLE available at $3.3M, and limited options being over the tax, I think Livingston will be offered at least that amount. I'd be good with offering Livingston $4M, with team options on years 2 and 3 in case of injury.
 
Blazer4ever said:
Ridnour I consider a pass-first PG. also Livingston, Sessions, Rubio, Andre Miller, Eric Maynor, Rondo... there are many.
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I question how many of those guys are actually pass first. Miller is maybe Rondo the rest not so sure about.
 
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Why would we pursue 10 free agents? :dunno:

I think we'll be content with 1 or 2.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Just like Loul Deng, How do you pursue Trevor Ariza without doing something with Nic Batum? That is not realistic.
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since when do you care about things being realistic? (Let's waive Wright and bring in Lamar Odom!!1!)
 
Schilly said:
I question how many of those guys are actually pass first. Miller is maybe Rondo the rest not so sure about.
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You're not sure Ricky Rubio is a pass first PG? Really?
 
Bradley is really intriguing. I think he can fit real well both as a backup to Dame as well as play alongside him. I see he and Dame working a lot better than him and Rondo, and it doesn't seem like BOS is all that interested in keeping him.
 
Olshey is aggressive and if he thinks Bradley fits, he's gonna make a run at him. I think he fits perfectly. Not saying Lillard shouldn't focus on improving his defense (he really should) but Bradley can lock down almost any PG in the league. He would kind of be to Lillard what Lopez is to LA.
 
Interesting stats from - http://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-ball-hogs-in-nba-2013-11

here are the 10 most unselfish players in the league. They pass like crazy:

1. Pablo Prigioni (New York Knicks): 87.8% pass rate
2. Shaun Livingston (Brooklyn Nets): 86.2% pass rate
3. Josh McRoberts (Charlotte Bobcats): 85.1% pass rate
4. Jose Calderon (Dallas Mavericks): 84.8% pass rate
5. Shane Battier (Miami Heat): 84.3% pass rate
6. Greivis Vasquez (Sacramento Kings): 82.7% pass rate
7. Joakim Noah (Chicago Bulls): 82.6% pass rate
8. Deron Williams (Brooklyn Nets): 82.4% pass rate
9. John Henson (Milwaukee Bucks): 82.4% pass rate
10. John Lucas III (Utah Jazz): 81.5% pass rate

Pass rate = (Passes per game) / (Touches per game)
The average pass rate across the NBA is 70.1%

Shaun Livingston #2. That might be good for a starting point guard, but is that what we would need in our second unit? Or should the Blazers be looking for more of a scoring point guard or combo guard (Mo Williams, Patty Mills) for more instant offense off the bench?
 
I don't think stotts would ever say no to a player that likes to pass the ball. McCollum in theory could play next to Livingston and be that scorer
 
42N8Bounce said:
Interesting stats from - http://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-ball-hogs-in-nba-2013-11

here are the 10 most unselfish players in the league. They pass like crazy:

1. Pablo Prigioni (New York Knicks): 87.8% pass rate
2. Shaun Livingston (Brooklyn Nets): 86.2% pass rate
3. Josh McRoberts (Charlotte Bobcats): 85.1% pass rate
4. Jose Calderon (Dallas Mavericks): 84.8% pass rate
5. Shane Battier (Miami Heat): 84.3% pass rate
6. Greivis Vasquez (Sacramento Kings): 82.7% pass rate
7. Joakim Noah (Chicago Bulls): 82.6% pass rate
8. Deron Williams (Brooklyn Nets): 82.4% pass rate
9. John Henson (Milwaukee Bucks): 82.4% pass rate
10. John Lucas III (Utah Jazz): 81.5% pass rate

Pass rate = (Passes per game) / (Touches per game)
The average pass rate across the NBA is 70.1%

Shaun Livingston #2. That might be good for a starting point guard, but is that what we would need in our second unit? Or should the Blazers be looking for more of a scoring point guard or combo guard (Mo Williams, Patty Mills) for more instant offense off the bench?
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McBob for backup PG!!
 
Would a bradley, mike miller, jermaine oneal offseason interest anyone?
 
Scalma said:
Would a bradley, mike miller, jermaine oneal offseason interest anyone?
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That would make us potentially better, but IMO, not good enough to get any further next year. Is that who you bring in to show Aldridge you are building a champion?
 
Scalma said:
Got a better idea?
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Different. I'm trying not to be as combative

IMO, Bradley instantly makes us better defensively, but Miller counters that, almost to a whole

Jermaine will be 36 next season and played 44 games this past year. I'm not sure he is the guy

I gave my names earlier in the thread
 
Mediocre Man said:
Al Farouoq Aminu
Avery Bradley
Thabo Sefolosha
Emeka Okafor
James Johnson
Shawn Marion
Spencer Hawes


That's my 7
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I'd love okafor over oneal too but I doubt we can sign him for the minimum. I like marion too but he's gonna cost more than 2 mil. Not really a fan of aminu. Yah olshey drafted him. He also traded him. If we got bradley and aminu that still doesn't improve the bench scoring that much.
 
Scalma said:
I'd love okafor over oneal too but I doubt we can sign him for the minimum. I like marion too but he's gonna cost more than 2 mil. Not really a fan of aminu. Yah olshey drafted him. He also traded him. If we got bradley and aminu that still doesn't improve the bench scoring that much.
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I think you'd be surprised.

It might not improve bench shooting, but scoring off turn overs, rebounds and such would be much higher. Instant tempo change
 
Scalma said:
Would a bradley, mike miller, jermaine oneal offseason interest anyone?
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Bradley is a restricted free agent. I doubt we'll want to compete with Boston for his services. He averaged 30.9 mpg last year with Boston, and he's really their only point guard they have beyond Rondo. They'll probably look to resign him, or S&T, and I doubt we'll want to give up assets to get him.

Mike Miller played all 82 games for Memphis last year and averaged over 20 mpg. Memphis is over the tax, and doesn't have the BAE, only the tax MLE ($3.3M). They do have the non-Bird rights to Miller (120% of previous salary) if they want to up his salary a bit. They already have Prince (old) and Pondexter (young), so they'll probably only want to bring back Miller if it's at vet min salary.

Jermain O'Neal looked pretty good last year, especially considering his age. He average more than 20 mpg for GS, and was the first Big off the bench after Lee and Bogut (Speights only averaged 12 mpg). GS owns O'Neal's non-bird rights, and could also bring him back for the vet minimum.

The Blazers currently only have 2 roster spots open, I think a PG and a Big are priorities for our bench.

If Miller took one of those spots, I'd be a bit disappointed.

O'Neal wouldn't be bad for a big, but with our BAE and MLE available, I think Blatch, Hill, Jason Smith, Humphries, Blair and Adrien would all be better choices.

As for Bradley, I don't think we'll want to spend too much on him, especially with Livingston, Mills, Augustin, Sessions, Books, Blake, Stuckey and Farmar all available.
 
I thought Boston was going to bring back bradley no matter what but after doing some digging I'm not so sure anymore. He's not really a great fit with Rondo. I think he's definitely available. Olshey should pounce. Get Bradley here with Stackpole
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Different. I'm trying not to be as combative
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BTW, your doing a damn good job of it today. Not that you need my approval or encouragement, but just wanted to say that the effort is noticeable and effective.
 
42N8Bounce said:
Bradley is a restricted free agent. I doubt we'll want to compete with Boston for his services. He averaged 30.9 mpg last year with Boston, and he's really their only point guard they have beyond Rondo. They'll probably look to resign him, or S&T, and I doubt we'll want to give up assets to get him.
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I disagree. That would be the optimal scenario, IMO, as long as the starting five remained intact. A S&T for Bradley would allow retention of our MLE for another significant addition.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I disagree. That would be the optimal scenario, IMO, as long as the starting five remained intact. A S&T for Bradley would allow retention of our MLE for another significant addition.
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I can see Boston being ok with moving him. They're already rumored to be looking at smart in the Draft. But I don't know what we'd offer that they'd want in a sign and trade.
We did however trade for Pavlovic from them to help them land someone in a sign and trade. So maybe some good history they're fir one good turn deserves another.
 
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