Who are your top 5 picks in Fantasy Football???

[Haakzilla]

MJD is easily the best #2 pick you could possibly take...Forte is your next best option...

 

[Da_O]

MJD is easily the best #2 pick you could possibly take...Forte is your next best option...

Why is that? There is no proof that MJD will be able to handle a number 1 type workload, let alone have a good year at it. Forte has proved that and now has a quarterback to open things up for him a little. None of those picks are more justifiable than Turner who last year outscored even Peterson. I don't see any reason to see a big drop-off especially with all the goal-line carries Turner looks to get in 09.

1. Peterson
2. Turner
3. Forte
4. MJD

 

[Wheels]

Why is that? There is no proof that MJD will be able to handle a number 1 type workload, let alone have a good year at it. Forte has proved that and now has a quarterback to open things up for him a little. None of those picks are more justifiable than Turner who last year outscored even Peterson. I don't see any reason to see a big drop-off especially with all the goal-line carries Turner looks to get in 09.

1. Peterson
2. Turner
3. Forte
4. MJD

except for not playing those weak defenses again

 

[DaRizzle]

Their Strength of Schedules this year... (lower number means easier for them)
Peterson 2
Turner 32
Forte 18
MJD 13
LT 3

Thats a big deal IMO...thoughts?

In case anybody didnt see it Im not in a PPR league

 

[BengalDuck]

Whos the asshole who told me to drop Verlander in Fantasy Baseball...gotta make sure NOT to listen to him!!!!

LOL that was me...

It's because you're a laker fan!



Or it's because the light turned on for him. wtf.

1. Adrian Peterson
2. Michael Turner
3. Maurice Jones-Drew
4. Matt Forte
5. Tom Brady

 

[BengalDuck]

And my thoughts are... LDT gets to face Oakland, Denver, and KC twice each... but Sproles is a more explosive player these days and Rivers/Gates/Jackson/Chambers has quietly become one of the best passing corps in the league.

 

[DaRizzle]

1. Adrian Peterson
2. Michael Turner
3. Maurice Jones-Drew
4. Matt Forte
5. Tom Brady

So I should take Ryan Leaf?

 

[Da_O]

except for not playing those weak defenses again

New Orleans and Tampa Bay are in their division and were ranked #1 and #3 in rush defense last year and that didn't seem to matter. They also play Carolina twice(who ranked 26th in rush defense), New England once(t28th), Giants(24th), Bears(19th), and Redskins(15th) this year. With the passing game to open things up there aren't going to be many teams that are going to slow down their run game. And like I said there is nobody that will be vulturing Turner's goal line carries.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

1 - A.Peterson (RB)
2 - M.Turner (RB)
3 - M.Jones Drew (RB)
4 - M.Forte (RB)
5 - L.Tomlinson (RB)
6 - S.Jackson (RB)
7 - L.Fitzgerald (WR)
8 - D.Williams (RB)
9 - C.Johnson (RB)
10 - A.Johnson (WR)

Guys I want after the first few rounds:
R.Rice (RB) could be this years M.Forte
B.Wells (RB) kicked ass in his first pre-season game
E.Royal (WR) Denvers #1 guy with mad man Marshall out.
L.McCoy (RB) can Westbrook stay healthy? I doubt it.
D.Brown (RB) Addai has sucked, Brown should see a solid # of carries.
J.Carlson (TE) will be a top 5 TE and you can get him in the late rounds
J.Davis (RB) wouldnt be surprised to see him take over for Jamal Lewis by week 4.
T.Edwards (QB) T.Owens and L.Evans... enough said. Great late QB pick.

Guys I am avoiding at all cost:
B.Westrbrook (RB)
W.Welker (WR)
R.Williams (WR)
W.Parker (RB)
R.Bush (RB)
T.Romo (QB)
B.Edwards (WR)
J.Stewart (RB)
L.White (RB)
J.Lewis (RB)
M.Cassel (QB)
K.Orton (QB)

 

[Wheels]

New Orleans and Tampa Bay are in their division and were ranked #1 and #3 in rush defense last year and that didn't seem to matter. They also play Carolina twice(who ranked 26th in rush defense), New England once(t28th), Giants(24th), Bears(19th), and Redskins(15th) this year. With the passing game to open things up there aren't going to be many teams that are going to slow down their run game. And like I said there is nobody that will be vulturing Turner's goal line carries.

Thats kinda my point though, I'm not saying Turner is garbage, he is just too hit and miss for a #2 pick IMO. his HUGE games which gave him the points lead over AP, came against the likes of Detroit, St Louis, Carolina, Kansas City, and a pretty game against Oakland and Denver. he had decent lines against Tampa and NO and god awful lines against Chicago and Philly. And Turner had that passing game last year, to help open things up. To me I guess, actually ADDING a passing game to help someone line Forte, would be a much better and safer pick IMO, but we'll see soon enough eh? thank goodness for Football season!

 

[Mediocre Man]

It all depends how your league is scored.

Assuming it's a standard league, then.....

Peterson
Turner
Drew
Forte
Jackson or Chris Johnson


I don't like D. Williams because I think Stewart will take some of his potential points.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I don't like D. Williams because I think Stewart will take some of his potential points.

Stewart cant seem to stay healthy. He's always got a nagging injury.

 

[Da_O]

Thats kinda my point though, I'm not saying Turner is garbage, he is just too hit and miss for a #2 pick IMO. his HUGE games which gave him the points lead over AP, came against the likes of Detroit, St Louis, Carolina, Kansas City, and a pretty game against Oakland and Denver. he had decent lines against Tampa and NO and god awful lines against Chicago and Philly. And Turner had that passing game last year, to help open things up. To me I guess, actually ADDING a passing game to help someone line Forte, would be a much better and safer pick IMO, but we'll see soon enough eh? thank goodness for Football season!

How are MJD and Forte not just as hit or miss though? I don't get it. MJD has not proved he can be a number one running back and take on that kind of workload. While Forte did have a good year last year, that year too, can also be a fluke like Turner's. And his schedule is actually harder than Turner's.

If you have a PPR league then Forte would be the way to go at number 2 but you're not making a convincing enough argument to not take him number 2.

 

[Wheels]

How are MJD and Forte not just as hit or miss though? I don't get it. MJD has not proved he can be a number one running back and take on that kind of workload. While Forte did have a good year last year, that year too, can also be a fluke like Turner's. And his schedule is actually harder than Turner's.

If you have a PPR league then Forte would be the way to go at number 2 but you're not making a convincing enough argument to not take him number 2.

MJD for me is a scary one, he is really good when healthy, but thats a big if. with Forte and his one year, I base it off of, he had no QB and defenses were able to key in on him AND he still produced. Turner already had the the QB and an elite WR, to spread out the defense for him. I'm not saying Turner's year was a fluke, but he is too hit and miss for a #2 overall IMO.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

MJD for me is a scary one, he is really good when healthy, but thats a big if. with Forte and his one year, I base it off of, he had no QB and defenses were able to key in on him AND he still produced. Turner already had the the QB and an elite WR, to spread out the defense for him. I'm not saying Turner's year was a fluke, but he is too hit and miss for a #2 overall IMO.

I don't think MJD is known as be injury prone . . . why is it a "big if"?


More on MJD:

The addition of WR Torry Holt should add just enough spark to the passing game so that Jones-Drew won’t see too many 8-men fronts. We’re trying to keep our expectations for him in check, but it ain’t easy. This is a case of one of the most talented backs in the league finally getting his shot to be a bell-cow runner. And the results could be huge. Jones-Drew is hands-down our #1 RB in PPR leagues. And in standard-scoring formats, he’s closer to Peterson than you may think…

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Brandon Funston loves MJD . . . more than AP.

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/nfl/news?slug=bf-bigboard-football

 

[rocketeer]

How are MJD and Forte not just as hit or miss though? I don't get it.

what's there not to get? turner was a lot more inconsistent than forte. mjd was inconsistent as well but the assumption is that now he'll be the feature back instead of splitting carries it's more likely that he'd stay consistent. i'm really not sold on mjd as a top pick though. i'd have him behind LT, forte, and turner(probably in that order for me).

just look at the numbers. turner had three weeks of 5 points and one week of 4 points(espn standard scoring). forte's lowest point totals were 7, 8, and 9. turner obviously had some huge weeks as well but forte's numbers were more consistently good while turner's went back and forth between being bad and great.

 

[DaRizzle]

keep it goin guys....my draft is Thursday evening...I want to hear every argument imaginable...and if you provide links too that would be awesome too...

...geez...now GOTime has made me come full circle and im leaning towards MJD again....ugh! What to do!?!? I gotta win this year!!!!

 

[Wheels]

what's there not to get? turner was a lot more inconsistent than forte. mjd was inconsistent as well but the assumption is that now he'll be the feature back instead of splitting carries it's more likely that he'd stay consistent. i'm really not sold on mjd as a top pick though. i'd have him behind LT, forte, and turner(probably in that order for me).

just look at the numbers. turner had three weeks of 5 points and one week of 4 points(espn standard scoring). forte's lowest point totals were 7, 8, and 9. turner obviously had some huge weeks as well but forte's numbers were more consistently good while turner's went back and forth between being bad and great

And those HUGE weeks came against bad rushing teams. Thats my point too. The inconsistency is why I dont find his value so high as a #2 overall pick.

 

[Da_O]

what's there not to get? turner was a lot more inconsistent than forte. mjd was inconsistent as well but the assumption is that now he'll be the feature back instead of splitting carries it's more likely that he'd stay consistent. i'm really not sold on mjd as a top pick though. i'd have him behind LT, forte, and turner(probably in that order for me).

just look at the numbers. turner had three weeks of 5 points and one week of 4 points(espn standard scoring). forte's lowest point totals were 7, 8, and 9. turner obviously had some huge weeks as well but forte's numbers were more consistently good while turner's went back and forth between being bad and great.

Forte was barely more consistent than Turner, and yet Turner still had the better year. What I don't get is how they can say Turner is hit or miss then say Forte and MJD aren't.

Turner also put up good stats for the time it matters, playoff time(fantasy). In the last six weeks he didn't have one game under ten, and had four that were over twenty and one over thirty. In comparison, Forte only had two games over twenty all season. With Atlanta's O-line and QB having another year of experience, an even more improved passing game to take away those nasty eight-man fronts, and nobody that will vulture any goal-line carries, I don't think there's a more safer second pick in football. The excuses to pass on Turner have been rather weak.

Also this isn't 2007, LT 2nd really?

 

[DaRizzle]

Forte was barely more consistent than Turner, and yet Turner still had the better year. What I don't get is how they can say Turner is hit or miss then say Forte and MJD aren't.

Turner also put up good stats for the time it matters, playoff time(fantasy). In the last six weeks he didn't have one game under ten, and had four that were over twenty and one over thirty. In comparison, Forte only had two games over twenty all season. With Atlanta's O-line and QB having another year of experience, an even more improved passing game to take away those nasty eight-man fronts, and nobody that will vulture any goal-line carries, I don't think there's a more safer second pick in football. The excuses to pass on Turner have been rather weak.

Also this isn't 2007, LT 2nd really?

No...that thought has come and gone....Im back on the MJD train at this moment...but i still have 48 hours

 

[PapaG]

I really think RBs are overvalued in many leagues. Get a Brees/Brady/Manning if you can in the first round, and do research on RBs for the 2nd/3rd rounds.

I did that, but of course, I was the 8th pick out of 14 teams. I still got the RBs I wanted in my slot, though.

 

[rocketeer]

Forte was barely more consistent than Turner, and yet Turner still had the better year. What I don't get is how they can say Turner is hit or miss then say Forte and MJD aren't.

that's not true. forte was significantly more consistent, but turner did put up more points. and really, turner was better last year(not more consistent, but better). i don't think anyone is arguing against that. being better last year doesn't mean he'll be better this year though.

Turner also put up good stats for the time it matters, playoff time(fantasy). In the last six weeks he didn't have one game under ten, and had four that were over twenty and one over thirty. In comparison, Forte only had two games over twenty all season. With Atlanta's O-line and QB having another year of experience, an even more improved passing game to take away those nasty eight-man fronts, and nobody that will vulture any goal-line carries, I don't think there's a more safer second pick in football. The excuses to pass on Turner have been rather weak.

i don't think him putting up good fantasy playoff stats last season is really relevant at all. in nfl terms, those games aren't anything special. it's not like he's going to try harder during the fantasy playoffs or elevate his game specifically for them.

Also this isn't 2007, LT 2nd really?

oh shit, i forgot what year it was. if LT is healthy, he's the 2nd best running back in the league. and even if sproles takes some carries, that just keeps LT fresh for the entire season and he's going to be getting all the goal line carries.

 

[Da_O]

that's not true. forte was significantly more consistent, but turner did put up more points. and really, turner was better last year(not more consistent, but better). i don't think anyone is arguing against that. being better last year doesn't mean he'll be better this year though.


i don't think him putting up good fantasy playoff stats last season is really relevant at all. in nfl terms, those games aren't anything special. it's not like he's going to try harder during the fantasy playoffs or elevate his game specifically for them.


oh shit, i forgot what year it was. if LT is healthy, he's the 2nd best running back in the league. and even if sproles takes some carries, that just keeps LT fresh for the entire season and he's going to be getting all the goal line carries.

Wrong, Forte was barely more consistent. Turner only had four games where he posted ten or fewer points. In comparison, Forte had three games but did not have as many big number games as Turner. I don't think Turner having one more game of ten or fewer weeks makes him significantly less consistent. After week 9 Turner was the most consistent back in Football.

Also my point wasn't that he upped his game because of fantasy football playoffs but that he didn't fade down the stretch which is pretty important considering fantasy players. Players like LT and Portis have bigger and bigger dropoffs later in the season.

When LT is healthy he's barely the best RB on his team. Face it, he's nowhere near as good as he was two years ago. He's an injury waiting to happen and Sproles is going to take away carries as San Diego looks to start splitting carries. I'd go Turner, MJD, and Forte before him.

 

[Da_O]

I really think RBs are overvalued in many leagues. Get a Brees/Brady/Manning if you can in the first round, and do research on RBs for the 2nd/3rd rounds.

I did that, but of course, I was the 8th pick out of 14 teams. I still got the RBs I wanted in my slot, though.

They are, but that's because of the significant drop off from back to back. Brees, Manning, and Aaron Rodgers all scored within 10 points of each other, then there were eight QBS that all scored in the 230 to 250 range. So people tend to get the better RB's first because you can always get a good value QB in the later rounds.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

keep it goin guys....my draft is Thursday evening...I want to hear every argument imaginable...and if you provide links too that would be awesome too...

...geez...now GOTime has made me come full circle and im leaning towards MJD again....ugh! What to do!?!? I gotta win this year!!!!

This offense is far from a juggernaut, but it’s good enough to produce a stud RB. Jacksonville finished 20th in total offense last season and 18th in rushing yards. But look for both of those numbers to climb this season. The Jags completely revamped their offensive line this offseason. They added veteran OT Tra Thomas in free-agency and then used their first 2 draft picks on blue chip OTs — Eugene Monroe in the 1st round and Eben Britton in the 2nd. They will also look forward to getting back 2 starting OG in Vince Manuwai and Maurice Williams – both of whom were injured early in the 2008 campaign. This is a franchise that clearly wants to dominate games on the ground.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

With all the posts I do on this topic, I had my draft on Monday and hate my team.

 

[The Professional Fan]

1 - A.Peterson (RB)
2 - M.Turner (RB)
3 - M.Jones Drew (RB)
4 - M.Forte (RB)
5 - L.Tomlinson (RB)
6 - S.Jackson (RB)
7 - L.Fitzgerald (WR)
8 - D.Williams (RB)
9 - C.Johnson (RB)
10 - A.Johnson (WR)

Guys I want after the first few rounds:
R.Rice (RB) could be this years M.Forte
B.Wells (RB) kicked ass in his first pre-season game
E.Royal (WR) Denvers #1 guy with mad man Marshall out.
L.McCoy (RB) can Westbrook stay healthy? I doubt it.
D.Brown (RB) Addai has sucked, Brown should see a solid # of carries.
J.Carlson (TE) will be a top 5 TE and you can get him in the late rounds
J.Davis (RB) wouldnt be surprised to see him take over for Jamal Lewis by week 4.
T.Edwards (QB) T.Owens and L.Evans... enough said. Great late QB pick.

Guys I am avoiding at all cost:
B.Westrbrook (RB)
W.Welker (WR)
R.Williams (WR)
W.Parker (RB)
R.Bush (RB)
T.Romo (QB)
B.Edwards (WR)
J.Stewart (RB)
L.White (RB)
J.Lewis (RB)
M.Cassel (QB)
K.Orton (QB)

Why avoid LenDale White? Dude is slimmer than he's ever been and in a contract year. Chris Johnson is a great RB, but White will get his. The dude scored 15 rushing TD's last season.

 

[DaRizzle]

This offense is far from a juggernaut, but it’s good enough to produce a stud RB. Jacksonville finished 20th in total offense last season and 18th in rushing yards. But look for both of those numbers to climb this season. The Jags completely revamped their offensive line this offseason. They added veteran OT Tra Thomas in free-agency and then used their first 2 draft picks on blue chip OTs — Eugene Monroe in the 1st round and Eben Britton in the 2nd. They will also look forward to getting back 2 starting OG in Vince Manuwai and Maurice Williams – both of whom were injured early in the 2008 campaign. This is a franchise that clearly wants to dominate games on the ground.

information i didnt know! Thanks!!!

(gotta link?)

 

[rocketeer]

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?page=nfldk2k9falcons32Q

i just came across this article about turner. talks about how he played 6 of the 7 worst rushing defenses last year but he plays none of those this season and last season he played against the 3rd easy schedule for rushing defense but this year he plays against the toughest(i assume using last year's numbers).