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Orion Bailey said:
And I said we could work out some sort of sign and trade, so he is under contract when he comes here.
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I don't think you can do that in the middle of the season. And he'll definitely wanna test the market
 
BonesJones said:
I don't think you can do that in the middle of the season. And he'll definitely wanna test the market
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It wouldn't be in the middle of free agency. It would be at the trade deadline, so the Thunder most certainly can sign him and then trade him as far as I know.

However, You are right in that unless the team really meets everything Durant wants, He will probably want to test free agency and wont do a sign and trade type deal.
 
Orion Bailey said:
I like Horford, but Korver seems fairly one dimensional to me no? I know he is lights out from Three, but what else does be bring to the table to make him a game changer? I wouldn't consider him a game changer. I would consider him a great starting role player.
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He's a solid defender. He, Leonard, and Horford would space the floor a ton.
 
Orion Bailey said:
It wouldn't be in the middle of free agency. It would be at the trade deadline, so the Thunder most certainly can sign him and then trade him as far as I know.

However, You are right in that unless the team really meets everything Durant wants, He will probably want to test free agency and wont do a sign and trade type deal.
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I meant the season, and I changed it 5 seconds after posting....
 
After this last offseason, I am open to any talented baller with a low contract and a pulse. I ain't picky!
 
BonesJones said:
you have to be joking
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Korver is 34 years old, Miller is a couple years older. Both have similar skillsets, Korver has better knees and is expensive...also was a no show in the playoffs for the Hawks last season
 
BonesJones said:
you have to be joking
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we don't need or want either one of them, one was acquired in a trade and will likely be released or traded, Korver is for a win now team and that ain't us, this year is for developing YOUNG guys who need minutes to develop, wasted time talking about a guy like Korver
 
riverman said:
Korver is 34 years old, Miller is a couple years older. Both have similar skillsets, Korver has better knees and is expensive...also was a no show in the playoffs for the Hawks last season
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Korver is a near 50% 3pt shooter and a better defender. What'd Miller shoot from 3 last year?
 
BonesJones said:
Korver is a near 50% 3pt shooter and a better defender. What'd Miller shoot from 3 last year?
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33%, but shot 46% the year before. Doesn't matter. Miller is not part of the future and any minutes he plays now takes away from the development of others who may be part of the future.
 
Reep said:
33%, but shot 46% the year before. Doesn't matter. Miller is not part of the future and any minutes he plays now takes away from the development of others who may be part of the future.
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Exactly and Korver was horrible in the playoffs as I said..we've got Miller if we want an old guy who can shoot..I don't want either guy..Mike Miller is a smart player, he's just not able to run for long anymore
 
Korver is so much better than Miller. But you guys are also missing where I said we'd get him as part of a Horford trade if they wanted to blow it up
 
Blazinaway said:
we don't need or want either one of them, one was acquired in a trade and will likely be released or traded, Korver is for a win now team and that ain't us, this year is for developing YOUNG guys who need minutes to develop, wasted time talking about a guy like Korver
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read above. Horford would put us in win now mode
 
I mentioned Horford early on in this post but Korver is on the wrong side of 30 and to me, a waste of a roster spot. End of Korver's next deal and he'll be Mike Miller
 
BonesJones said:
read above. Horford would put us in win now mode
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Unless you combine this with a bunch of other trades to turn our young guys into 29-year old talent, this doesn't make sense.

The whole movement is to get guys Dame's age so they can grow together for a few years then contend. Horford is 29 and doesn't match up well with the ages of the rest of the team. I like Al, but I don't see him fitting in unless you make several other trades (mainly for a 25-29 year old star small forward, who doesn't take nights off).
 
Reep said:
Unless you combine this with a bunch of other trades to turn our young guys into 29-year old talent, this doesn't make sense.

The whole movement is to get guys Dame's age so they can grow together for a few years then contend. Horford is 29 and doesn't match up well with the ages of the rest of the team. I like Al, but I don't see him fitting in unless you make several other trades (mainly for a 25-29 year old star small forward, who doesn't take nights off).
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Well the idea would be you could get Horford cheap with Korver as a throw in, keeping assets to potentially make a different deal (Eric Bledsoe?) at the deadline as well. If not you had into free agency set on resigning Horford with cap space to add others.
 
BonesJones said:
Well the idea would be you could get Horford cheap with Korver as a throw in, keeping assets to potentially make a different deal (Eric Bledsoe?) at the deadline as well. If not you had into free agency set on resigning Horford with cap space to add others.
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The main problem I have with this approach is that I believe it will take 2+ years just to get any new team to really get used to each other. If you go young that works. If you start pulling in 29-year-olds then by the time you are ready to challenge, they are on the downhill side and your window is very short.

Having said that, Horford might be able to come in and kick start things while you wait for Leonard or someone else to develop. But, you better plan on trading away Davis and/or Plumlee because if Horford is on the team, then you can probably only develop one other big besides Leonard. And, if Harkless doesn't step up big time, you better look for a solution at the SF position, because I'm not convinced Aminu is the answer.
 
Reep said:
The main problem I have with this approach is that I believe it will take 2+ years just to get any new team to really get used to each other. If you go young that works. If you start pulling in 29-year-olds then by the time you are ready to challenge, they are on the downhill side and your window is very short.

Having said that, Horford might be able to come in and kick start things while you wait for Leonard or someone else to develop. But, you better plan on trading away Davis and/or Plumlee because if Horford is on the team, then you can probably only develop one other big besides Leonard. And, if Harkless doesn't step up big time, you better look for a solution at the SF position, because I'm not convinced Aminu is the answer.
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I think we'd get rid of Davis. Leonard/Horford and Horford/Plumlee at the 4 and 5 are good combos.

I think Horford has 4 more years of high level play, just because of how he plays. If not he'll be a top 5 big off the bench behind a developed Leonard and Plumlee. There isn't really a time cap on it, it just gets us closer.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Good call.

Maybe might be easier to list the teams who have good potential to falter and thus want to blow it up by trade deadline. Then from the list of teams, find the type of game changer that could fit with this system? Obviously a few names being tossed around are already from these teams. I never watch east coast basketball though, so for most of these teams listed being from the East, I know little about their rosters and the contracts behind them.

You mention Chicago as a potential blow up team. Hmm I wonder about that one though. If they decide to blow it up, do you think Rose would be a good fit?
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no more coach thibs.
 
Blazinaway said:
and why does anyone think or believe we could get Horford "cheap"? fantasy island here, time to move on
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Well its conditional.
If the Hawks regress to a fringe playoff team (which they very well could) they might want to get some sort of value since he's expiring, and they may want to go young. And it's a discussion of players who might be fucking available, not "fantasy island".
 
BonesJones said:
Well its conditional.
If the Hawks regress to a fringe playoff team (which they very well could) they might want to get some sort of value since he's expiring, and they may want to go young. And it's a discussion of players who might be fucking available, not "fantasy island".
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Someone requested Fantasy Island?

 
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