Who gets bullied more? Nerds or Gays?

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Like in school or growing up. There are all these things about bullying gay people and people are wearing purple today or whatever. But what about the nerds? They get bullied as much, maybe more than teh ghey? They don't get celebs sticking up for them, do they?

yay or nay?

 

[oldmangrouch]

I have never heard of a victim of nerd bashing winding up in the hospital - or the morgue. Are you seriously comparing a wedgie in gym class to a baseball bat to the skull?

 

[mook]

As a former quasi-nerd, who had several friends who were uber-nerds, there was always the solace that at some point the nerd would probably be wealthier than the bully. So you know there was light at the end of the tunnel. Success is the sweetest revenge.

I guess if you are gay you have the knowledge that some day, well, you'll still be gay and people will still fuck with you pretty much forever because there are fucking idiots out there no matter how old you are. So there isn't much gold at the end of that glittery rainbow that you can tell yourself when some jock is pummeling your head in.

Side note: There's a great scene in 6 Feet Under where the gay couple have this really vicious argument. They clear the air, and then one of 'em says, "So you want to watch some porn?" I always envied that. It must be awesome to conclude a fight with your significant other in under five minutes, no tears, no recriminations, and just go watch some porn.

Other side note: Anybody else catch this speech about gay bullying. Pretty amazing:

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

As a former quasi-nerd, who had several friends who were uber-nerds, there was always the solace that at some point the nerd would probably be wealthier than the bully. So you know there was light at the end of the tunnel. Success is the sweetest revenge.

I guess if you are gay you have the knowledge that some day, well, you'll still be gay and people will still fuck with you pretty much forever because there are fucking idiots out there no matter how old you are. So there isn't much gold at the end of that glittery rainbow that you can tell yourself when some jock is pummeling your head in.

Side note: There's a great scene in 6 Feet Under where the gay couple have this really vicious argument. They clear the air, and then one of 'em says, "So you want to watch some porn?" I always envied that. It must be awesome to conclude a fight with your significant other in under five minutes, no tears, no recriminations, and just go watch some porn.

Other side note: Anybody else catch this speech about gay bullying. Pretty amazing:

Yes, nerds get it in high school, but then become the bullies when they become wealthy and their nerdy sons are boinking the ex bullies daughters.

As to gays (I hate that term), if they are "found out" I would suppose they are virtual targets in high school. I went to Pendleton high and if there was a gay kid, I can guarantee you he lived a miserable life until he graduated. High school kids, like college professors, can be very mean people.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I have never heard of a victim of nerd bashing winding up in the hospital - or the morgue. Are you seriously comparing a wedgie in gym class to a baseball bat to the skull?

Columbine much? I think that nerd bullying is much more prevalent, but gets less press than the sensationalism of gay bullying.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yes, nerds get it in high school, but then become the bullies when they become wealthy and their nerdy sons are boinking the ex bullies daughters.

As to gays (I hate that term), if they are "found out" I would suppose they are virtual targets in high school. I went to Pendleton high and if there was a gay kid, I can guarantee you he lived a miserable life until he graduated. High school kids, like college professors, can be very mean people.

rarely happens. many nerds stay true to their craft and end up playing video games their whole life, being unable to cope socially. not all the nerds end up millionaire supermodel fucking company founders.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

rarely happens. many nerds stay true to their craft and end up playing video games their whole life, being unable to cope socially. not all the nerds end up millionaire supermodel fucking company founders.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! I believe you.

 

[Minstrel]

Columbine much?

How is Columbine an example of nerd bullying? That was a case of what you're calling nerds doing the violence. That's not an example of "nerds" being beaten so badly that they end up in the hospital or dead.

I think that nerd bullying is much more prevalent, but gets less press than the sensationalism of gay bullying.

I agree that it's much more prevalent. It's also less serious, as oldmangrouch said.

 

[THE HCP]

The only gay guy I knew of at our HS was Thomas Lauderdale who's group you might heard of..... Pink Martini. He has done well for a pillow biter!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

How is Columbine an example of nerd bullying? That was a case of what you're calling nerds doing the violence. That's not an example of "nerds" being beaten so badly that they end up in the hospital or dead.
I agree that it's much more prevalent. It's also less serious, as oldmangrouch said.

They ended up dead.

Why is it less serious? Because it doesn't get reported as much?

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/19615242/detail.html

what about the myspace suicide?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312018,00.html

 

[THE HCP]

Ask BeerBoy............ he's BOTH!

 

[Minstrel]

They ended up dead.

Yes, by suicide. You're saying they bullied themselves? Very existential.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Ask BeerBoy............ he's BOTH!

Um, then how does he score so well with your wife?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yes, by suicide. You're saying they bullied themselves? Very existential.

So in the history of America, no nerd has ever been beat to death by bullies?

 

[Minstrel]

So in the history of America, no nerd has ever been beat to death by bullies?

I never said that. I said that Columbine is hardly an example of that.

My sense is that the socially awkward are not harassed as seriously as homosexuals, in general. Obviously, there are going to be examples of any group of people being hurt seriously.

 

[maxiep]

What if you're both, like Barney Frank or Lamar from "Revenge of the Nerds"?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I think its just as serious. The media may not promote it as much, but I think there is a serious problem with it as well.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

What if you're both, like Barney Frank or Lamar from "Revenge of the Nerds"?

Barney's boyfriend has his back. [video=youtube;dF0LKSNlUxA]

 

[THE HCP]

Um, then how does he score so well with your wife?

She's a *** HAG!

 

[barfo]

not all the nerds end up millionaire supermodel fucking company founders.

I guess I'm more unique than I thought.

barfo

 

[PtldPlatypus]

She's a *** HAG!

Oddly enough, I'd never head that term before until this past Friday, when my mom (of all people) introduced me to it.

 

[agoo]

There are large numbers of people who view homosexuality as a wrong and evil. There's a stigma that saying things like "Oh, that's so gay" is not homophobic hate speech because everyone does it. In most situations you can call someone a *** and get away without anyone challenging it, but replace that with any other epithet and you're much more likely to get push back on it.

When Columbine happened, we took the hint about bullying issues revolving around people who are socially awkward or nerdy. When Matthew Shepard was killed, we didn't. Now that five gay men have killed themselves in the last few months because of bullying, I'm hoping that as a nation we wake up to this issue, but I don't think we will.

You have a nation where Carl Paladino can deliver hate speech against homosexuals less than 24 hours after NYPD found and arrested a gang that was torturing homosexuals in an apartment and, somehow, he's still going to be on the ballot in November for Governor of New York and large numbers of people are still going to vote for him.

We, as a nation, deny homosexuals basic rights. It appears that the right to serve in the military is in the process of being granted to them, but what about legal marriage and everything that goes along with it. We let states vote on whether or not two consenting adult males can get married and obtain the rights that go along with it. Doesn't anyone else find that absurd? Iowa figured it out and I wouldn't exactly consider that state to be a hotbed of liberal thought and activity.

 

[THE HCP]

Oddly enough, I'd never head that term before until this past Friday, when my mom (of all people) introduced me to it.

Was she asking about your "girlfriend"?

 

[THE HCP]

Honestly, I'm more "putoff" by a persons inability to be cool then I am by who they sleep with. If a guy wants to hook up with another guy, big deal, as long as they are personable and cool, I could care less. I guess I'm NERDAPHOBIC!

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

There are large numbers of people who view homosexuality as a wrong and evil. There's a stigma that saying things like "Oh, that's so gay" is not homophobic hate speech because everyone does it. In most situations you can call someone a *** and get away without anyone challenging it, but replace that with any other epithet and you're much more likely to get push back on it.

When Columbine happened, we took the hint about bullying issues revolving around people who are socially awkward or nerdy. When Matthew Shepard was killed, we didn't. Now that five gay men have killed themselves in the last few months because of bullying, I'm hoping that as a nation we wake up to this issue, but I don't think we will.

You have a nation where Carl Paladino can deliver hate speech against homosexuals less than 24 hours after NYPD found and arrested a gang that was torturing homosexuals in an apartment and, somehow, he's still going to be on the ballot in November for Governor of New York and large numbers of people are still going to vote for him.

We, as a nation, deny homosexuals basic rights. It appears that the right to serve in the military is in the process of being granted to them, but what about legal marriage and everything that goes along with it. We let states vote on whether or not two consenting adult males can get married and obtain the rights that go along with it. Doesn't anyone else find that absurd? Iowa figured it out and I wouldn't exactly consider that state to be a hotbed of liberal thought and activity.

It's odd, but not surprising, how you advocate the rights of homosexuals, and yet against those of Christians in another thread.

My opinion would state that all citizens of this country have an equal right to the freedoms guaranteed us under the Constitution.

 

[agoo]

It's odd, but not surprising, how you advocate the rights of homosexuals, and yet against those of Christians in another thread.

My opinion would state that all citizens of this country have an equal right to the freedoms guaranteed us under the Constitution.

Its neither odd nor surprising that you're twisting what I have had to say in both threads so that you can play the Christian victim card yet again. I won't rehash the entire argument from the other thread but if you actually read what I wrote there instead of lumping me in with some others who are throwing out idiotic and senseless arguments against all Christians, I'm opposed to a single counseling student continuing in the profession. I believe in my various posts there, I spoke quite favorably of a professor who shared her Christian beliefs with us and of classmates who did the same. In fact, I can tell you if I was going to seek counseling from any of my classmates, I'd go to Danny, the recent retiree from the military who ran a support group out of his Christian church and shared openly with us that he derived his strength to carry through a recent difficult life situation from his strong faith in God and support from his pastor and his church. I actually advocate in there that Christians can make excellent counselors, but that in the case relevant to the thread, the single counseling student in question is not fit to counsel. I'm not sure if I mentioned it or not, but I obtained my counseling degree from St. Bonaventure University, a Catholic affiliated school and work at La Salle University, which also has a Catholic affiliation. If I didn't believe that believers in God and that Christ died for our sins were capable of contributing to the development of young men and women who are the future of our nation, I would not have spent four years working at one Catholic school and followed it up with another job at another Catholic school. Please reconsider what you have had to say to me and about my posting in that thread.

I can firmly and honestly state without any equivocation that all citizens in this country do have an equal right to the freedoms granted under the Constitution. Can you? Should a consenting adult male be able to marry another consenting adult male and have all of the rights associated with heterosexual marriage in this country? Your answers can be yes or no, but if your answer isn't the same to both questions, you're lying to yourself.

 

[Natebishop3]

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[Denny Crane]

gay nerds probably get it worse.

 

[THE HCP]

gay nerds probably get it worse.

What do you mean? From behind?

 

[MARIS61]

Like in school or growing up. There are all these things about bullying gay people and people are wearing purple today or whatever. But what about the nerds? They get bullied as much, maybe more than teh ghey? They don't get celebs sticking up for them, do they?

yay or nay?

Kingspeed stuck up for them through his Zack Addy role on Bones, except for the whole serial killer thing later on.