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Not sure why a few of you are writing off CJ. I think you are equating his performance as a PG (Which is average at best) with what he will bring as the back up SG when playing with Blake. (Who we all know will come off the bench as the PG)

But to answer the question after Blake and Kaman it does get a little fuzzy. I am not sure Stotts knows. I think he will give these 5 a chance depending on the match ups:

CJ (SG)
Will (SG and SF)
Wright (SF/Stretch 4)
TRob (PF)
Freeland (PF/C)

That is 7 total bench guys for 4-5 spots on any given night.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Not sure why a few of you are writing off CJ. I think you are equating his performance as a PG (Which is average at best) with what he will bring as the back up SG when playing with Blake. (Who we all know will come off the bench as the PG)

But to answer the question after Blake and Kaman it does get a little fuzzy. I am not sure Stotts knows. I think he will give these 5 a chance depending on the match ups:

CJ (SG)
Will (SG and SF)
Wright (SF/Stretch 4)
TRob (PF)
Freeland (PF/C)

That is 7 total bench guys for 4-5 spots on any given night.
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You forgot Meyers. Maybe on purpose.
 
My list has nothing to do with preseason.

Blake, Kaman, CJ, TRob.

The rest fight over crumbs.

Edit: Oops. I guess we need a SF backup. Wright by default.

Edit Edit: I can see Stotts wanting a backup "stretch four" on some nights. Not sure who that is. Freeland can hit a short shot. Meyers can hit a long one. IDK
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Did anyone's list change after last night?
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Probably Stotts decided to shorten his rotation considerably.

I have to say that Allen Crabbe has moved ahead and now Victor Claver is my "automatically throw him into any trade idea just to make salaries match" guy.
 
ant said:
You forgot Meyers. Maybe on purpose.
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I left off Claver as well and I like him. I would not say the Blazers are loaded with great bench players.......but there seems to be a lot of parity with players 8-14. No one is that much better than the other. They all seem to have different strengths and weaknesses.
 
I think that Kaman and Blake will definitely get the bulk of the bench mintutes.

Beyond that I have a feeling that Stotts is going role with whoever is hot and/or playing well in practice etc.

Obviously match-ups will play a role and injuries will play a role (hopefully not) but after watching pre-season I have moved more to the idea that after Kaman and Blake no one is guaranteed minutes every game. Which may be good to keep all the others hungry and fighting for those other minutes.
 
riverman said:
CJ had the worst bench player game on the roster against Denver. Very Nolan Smithish..I think TRob is in the doghouse for something or he'd play. He made the rotation last season. I like both these guys but the question is really, who's got Stotts favor so far in the preseason? Stotts is not getting fired and shouldn't
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I don't pay attention to pre-season - it's meaningless. With that said, I'm not really a fan of CJ. But we used a lottery pick on him and Stotts HAS to develop him - failure to do so is a fireable offense, IMO.

CJ is quite the conundrum - until he actually pans out either Olshey or Stotts shit the bed. I have more faith in Olshey than Stotts, so until CJ is given a legit chance to develop I'm placing his poor performance on Stotts. If Stotts gives him regular minutes and a defined role throughout the season and he still sucks by the time the POs start, then I'll shift the blame to Olshey for making a bad pick.
 
blue9 said:
I don't pay attention to pre-season - it's meaningless. With that said, I'm not really a fan of CJ. But we used a lottery pick on him and Stotts HAS to develop him - failure to do so is a fireable offense, IMO.

CJ is quite the conundrum - until he actually pans out either Olshey or Stotts shit the bed. I have more faith in Olshey than Stotts, so until CJ is given a legit chance to develop I'm placing his poor performance on Stotts. If Stotts gives him regular minutes and a defined role throughout the season and he still sucks by the time the POs start, then I'll shift the blame to Olshey for making a bad pick.
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I think we can all see what Olshey and Stotts wanted CJ to become but he's hot and cold, which is on him more than the FO or coaching staff. He's still a project
 
riverman said:
Mine did...Crabbe moved up, TRob and Barton moved down. CJ still straddled the fence
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Had someone been thinking, and it still might be fun for the regular season, we should have had a buy/sell type game on here where people move players up/down/or stay put depending on their game.

Give each player a value right now and a certain starting $$$$ figure see who comes out ahead at the end of the year $$$$ wise
 
One game later--shall we revisit this again?

If we were to list a three-deep rotation, based not on what I want or their ability, but based on what Stotts has done this preseason, I think it looks like this:

PG: Dame, Blake, Barton
SG: Wes, CJ, Crabbe
SF: Nic, Wright, Claver
PF: LA, MyLe, TRob
C: Lopez, Kaman, Freeland

Looking at that, it appears that SF is our weakest position overall, and that TRob is our highest-paid third stringer.

Looking at it this way, a TRob for Green trade (as discussed in another thread) makes total sense for us, as it would push Wright to third string and shift Claver to third string PF (his correct position).
 
PtldPlatypus said:
One game later--shall we revisit this again?

If we were to list a three-deep rotation, based not on what I want or their ability, but based on what Stotts has done this preseason, I think it looks like this:

PG: Dame, Blake, Barton
SG: Wes, CJ, Crabbe
SF: Nic, Wright, Claver
PF: LA, MyLe, TRob
C: Lopez, Kaman, Freeland

Looking at that, it appears that SF is our weakest position overall, and that TRob is our highest-paid third stringer.

Looking at it this way, a TRob for Green trade (as discussed in another thread) makes total sense for us, as it would push Wright to third string and shift Claver to third string PF (his correct position).
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Sounds about right
 
I never would have guessed that Leonards play would make T-Rob tradable. I understand that Kaman has played a role in that too but still. And I like TRob and hate the idea of seeing him go through another trade but its shaping up to make the most sense. But I wonder what an injury would do to that whole thought process?
 
Boise Blazer said:
I never would have guessed that Leonards play would make T-Rob tradable. I understand that Kaman has played a role in that too but still. And I like TRob and hate the idea of seeing him go through another trade but its shaping up to make the most sense. But I wonder what an injury would do to that whole thought process?
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This is the value of the mental game. Leonard is a absolute encyclopedia when it comes to study. He is also one of the hardest workers on the team. He is taking after Wes and Freeland. Trob is depending on athletic ability alone and it can only take him so far.
 
I was thinking more like..

PG: Dame, Blake, CJ
SG: Wes, CJ, Barton
SF: Nic, Wes, Barton
PF: LMA, TRob, Biebs
C: Lopez, Kaman, LMA

Biebs is playing much better on the offensive end. Still not on the Biebs hype train just because Stotts is.

PtldPlatypus said:
One game later--shall we revisit this again?

If we were to list a three-deep rotation, based not on what I want or their ability, but based on what Stotts has done this preseason, I think it looks like this:

PG: Dame, Blake, Barton
SG: Wes, CJ, Crabbe
SF: Nic, Wright, Claver
PF: LA, MyLe, TRob
C: Lopez, Kaman, Freeland

Looking at that, it appears that SF is our weakest position overall, and that TRob is our highest-paid third stringer.

Looking at it this way, a TRob for Green trade (as discussed in another thread) makes total sense for us, as it would push Wright to third string and shift Claver to third string PF (his correct position).
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PtldPlatypus said:
One game later--shall we revisit this again?

If we were to list a three-deep rotation, based not on what I want or their ability, but based on what Stotts has done this preseason, I think it looks like this:

PG: Dame, Blake, Barton
SG: Wes, CJ, Crabbe
SF: Nic, Wright, Claver
PF: LA, MyLe, TRob
C: Lopez, Kaman, Freeland

Looking at that, it appears that SF is our weakest position overall, and that TRob is our highest-paid third stringer.

Looking at it this way, a TRob for Green trade (as discussed in another thread) makes total sense for us, as it would push Wright to third string and shift Claver to third string PF (his correct position).
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Might make sense for us but makes none for the Suns. Morris twins, TJ Warren, Anthony Tolliver... They already have players who are exactly like T-Rob.
 
I remember someone, maybe Casey interviewing TRob at the beginning of summer league asking him what he worked on in the offseason and he said....nothing, I've always been able to play my game. I'm going to play my game. That was a flag for me.
 
riverman said:
I remember someone, maybe Casey interviewing TRob at the beginning of summer league asking him what he worked on in the offseason and he said....nothing, I've always been able to play my game. I'm going to play my game. That was a flag for me.
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And "playing his game" has taken him to three teams so far.

I wonder if the light will eventually go on for him. It's not like he's Beasley, who is a genuine space cadet, but there do seem to be hard headed types who seem incapable of change because they don't think they need to. Like JR Smith, for example.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
And "playing his game" has taken him to three teams so far.

I wonder if the light will eventually go on for him. It's not like he's Beasley, who is a genuine space cadet, but there do seem to be hard headed types who seem incapable of change because they don't think they need to. Like JR Smith, for example.
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I think TRob will come around and mature into a great player but he needs be coachable or he'll play for a lot of teams and not stick
 
riverman said:
I think TRob will come around and mature into a great player but he needs be coachable or he'll play for a lot of teams and not stick
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Well he's already been in the league for 5 years and has played for 3 teams hasn't he?
 
riverman said:
I remember someone, maybe Casey interviewing TRob at the beginning of summer league asking him what he worked on in the offseason and he said....nothing, I've always been able to play my game. I'm going to play my game. That was a flag for me.
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He never said that. He said he didn't work on his rebounding because it's a part of his game. Said he worked on everything else.
 
Scalma said:
He never said that. He said he didn't work on his rebounding because it's a part of his game. Said he worked on everything else.
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He did say that, he also talked about playing pick up and playing ball. I'll try and find a link for it. I'm sure he gave a few interviews. I remember he said he was riding a mountain bike alot.Getting to know Portland. Dont' get me wrong, I think he's an asset and will be a great player but I'm not sure he's that coachable. Then again, neither was Gerald Wallace or JJ Hickson
 
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riverman said:
He did say that, he also talked about playing pick up and playing ball. I'll try and find a link for it. I'm sure he gave a few interviews. I remember he said he was riding a mountain bike alot.Getting to know Portland. Dont' get me wrong, I think he's an asset and will be a great player but I'm not sure he's that coachable. Then again, neither was Gerald Wallace or JJ Hickson
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well if he really did say that, then that contradicts what he said in the interview I saw where he mentioned numerous things he was working on. We'll see what happens. Still have hope for him and there will be games where his energy will be vital.
 
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