Who is the greatest MC of all time?

[Bobcats]

<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What is Eazy doing in there? Yeah he is very important because he helped build the whole west coast thing, but as far as emceeing goes...you know he doesn't even write his own rhymes right?</div>

Eazy did write his own rhymes. With NWA, D.O.C. and Cube did the ghostwriting, but after NWA broke up, Eazy wrote his own rhymes.

 

[B.e.]

Just the fact that he didn't in the first place is enough reason for him not to be mentioned at all with the greatest MCs of all time.

 

[Bobcats]

<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Just the fact that he didn't in the first place is enough reason for him not to be mentioned at all with the greatest MCs of all time.</div>

Oh, your right, he isn't close to being the greatest MC of all time. He still doesn't get the proper respect he deserves IMO for his music and his impact.

 

[B.e.]

<div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh, your right, he isn't close to being the greatest MC of all time. He still doesn't get the proper respect he deserves IMO for his music and his impact.</div>

Eazy-E is very well respected for his contributions to the west coast, rightfully so..

 

[fatballer_10]

I do know that earlier in the game, Eazy had his rhymes written, but his impact and the way he delivered really spoke to a lot of people and it struck a chord with me. I know everyone won't agree, but it's an opinion.

I also would like to say T.I because he is like a midwest Jay Z but I am sure its too ealry in his career and the game has changed a lot (and people would crucify me, but hey if Lil Wayne's name appeared then everything is free game!!)

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not putting more emphasis on being known, compared to how much talent you have. All I am saying is popularity should play a factor into who is the greatest of all time, not how great of an MC you are.</div>

I still disagree, because this then turns it into a popularity contest, rather than a measure of some ones lyrical ability.

I mean should Tupac be the number one, because he had some decent lyrics and a massive following? I just think thats unfair on harder working emcee's who are more talented.

 

[The Dream]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Sure Mos Def and Kweli are great MCs...but they just don't have the "numero uno" factor about them.</div>

I agree with Kweli not having the number one factor, but Mos Def has what it takes to be up there, but his lack of material is what really hurts him.....if he had another album or two equivalent to Black on Both Sides he could definitely be considered the GOAT.

 

[Sasha]

I like MC Dalek. He's top five for me right now. He doesn't have enough material out yet, but the way he's going he'll be up there soon.

 

[Legacy]

Lets have a tournament for the best rapper of all time. Would anyone be interested?

 

[NTC]

Do we have to have a tournament for everything here? lol.

Anyway, I'd be up for it, so long as its a reasonable crop of MC's, and not just "Fiddy Centz0rz!!1!, T.I!1!!! Yung Buckz!1!!"

 

[The Dream]

I would be down for it as long as 2pac and Biggie aren't in the tournament, lol

 

[B.e.]

<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I would be down for it as long as 2pac and Biggie aren't in the tournament, lol</div>

Whats the point then?

 

[NTC]

Do you know who I think the most <u>underated</u> MC of all time is? Black Thought, hands down.

 

[The Dream]

Thought is really underrated....... when looking at the roots catalogue I'd say he's a candidate for "at least" a top 20 MC slot.

 

[B.e.]

I agree on Black Thought.

 

[Sasha]

<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Whats the point then?</div>
They're not the greatest imo, just hyped too much.

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Thought is really underrated....... when looking at the roots catalogue I'd say he's a candidate for "at least" a top 20 MC slot.</div>

I'd put him in the top 10 even. He definatley makes my personal top 10.

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[bronbron23]

<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Do you know who I think the most <u>underated</u> MC of all time is? Black Thought, hands down.</div>

I always say this, some dude left him out of his top 50 and I was going nuts! He had guys like bun b in there and leaves out black thought what a chump.

I think Nas should be mentioned he is most consistent yeh he has a few weak tracks but who doesn't

is Jigga in there?

BIG def

I haven't listened to enough Rakim or KRS to put them in

Big Pun was pretty sick too

 

[NTC]

Early Jay-Z was pretty sick, I'd say back then he was even better than Nas. I'm talking like way back in the day, before he released 'Reasonable Doubt' even.

He was mainly doing guest spots, but man, he could he spit some hot sh*t.

Stuff like "Da Graveyard", "Show & Prove", "Stretch & Bobbito '95 Pt. I & II" etc.

 

[Mr. J]

Sometimes Jay-Z got annoying like in the 7 Minute Freestlye with Big L. Maybe it's because Big L totally outshined him, but I just wasn't really feeling Jay-Z that much, especially the whole "bigitty-bam, biggity-bam, biggity-bam!" thing. I know it's a freestlye but still.

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Sometimes Jay-Z got annoying like in the 7 Minute Freestlye with Big L. Maybe it's because Big L totally outshined him, but I just wasn't really feeling Jay-Z that much, especially the whole "bigitty-bam, biggity-bam, biggity-bam!" thing. I know it's a freestlye but still.</div>

Yeah I know what you mean, that part did get reather annoying, but my point stands, his delivery back then was sick. I dont know what happened, he pretty much lost it as soon as he dropped 'Reasonable Doubt', and I'm not saying that was a bad album or that he was a bad emcee when that album dropped, but I feel as though he didnt deliver like he did on those guest spots.

 

[B.e.]

For some reason I personally don't see the greatness in Rakim...from what I understand I acknowledge what he has done for hip hop...but like I said I listen I'm not making the connection. Like Paid in Full...it just doesn't seem like a great album to me, granted I've only gave it a few spins all of Ra's song are just rapping about rapping....Dream or somebody needs to school me on him...maybe I'm just missing something.

 

[The Dream]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">...it just doesn't seem like a great album to me, granted I've only gave it a few spins all of Ra's song are just rapping about rapping....Dream or somebody needs to school me on him...maybe I'm just missing something.
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I will say that mainly he is a MC who raps about MCing and what it means to him, but he has times where he slips knowledge in some of his songs...and he's made songs about other topics also.....if you weren't alive during that time period or if you don't like rap music from the late 80's and early 90's then I could see why you wouldn't enjoy the album.....but you have to think about the times when judging the quality of the album...personally I always loved it, the bass in My Melody can still bang in your car, and Ra's flow is so smooth making for an easy listen....