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Maybe Crabbe ? That’s the only huge difference from last year that we lost

He was the 3rd best 3point shooter

Yes but he took so few and was so passive, how much of an impact did that really have? I get that it helped some, but there were so many games he would just disappear and the team was still better than this.
 
Yes but he took so few and was so passive, how much of an impact did that really have? I get that it helped some, but there were so many games he would just disappear and the team was still better than this.

True but his percentage being so high probably kept the defense just enough to be honest
 
The biggest difference between the end of last year, and the start of this year is CJ.
CJ is more Carmemelol this year than ever.
He's ball stopping & he's turning it over.
I don't know if it's because Stotts wants to feature CJ more in a one on one role. But last year CJ lead the league in miles traveled on the court.
This year it looks as if he's just standing around waiting for the ball to swing to him.
Frankly Portland looks like trash with Lillard not controlling the action.
Far too often Portland's offense is. 'wait for Lillard to score or get me a shot'.

Welcome HOU....GSW. :banghead2: If for some reason they even manage to win one of these games, while I will be happy with the win, will be just as frustrated with the roller coaster effort that would show what they can do if they put their minds to it.

Welcome to being a Blazer fan for as long as I can remember.
Even dating all the way back to the sheed/sabonis days when I was a kid. I remember the team getting down by 20+ at home to a bad team. Only to beat Shaq & Kobe on the second night of a b2b.
Maybe it was different in the drexler days idk. But this is the Blazer team I know.
 
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I'm ok with the Batum trade and i know it not "fair" to do this kind of chart, but i can't ignore the fact that Olshey is making this team weaker from both a financial and talent standpoint.
 
You might as well add CJ vs Greek Freak + Gobert to that list.

I got MASSIVE push back that CJ was, is and would be better than the GF. I appreciate home team player loyalty, but that makes people doubt ones credibility with steadfast positions like that.
 
Is here anyone who really thinks a New coach would change something? This is a mediocre roster. Dame is not elite, cj plays like carmelo and Nurkic is a inefficient Scorer who to often get's in Foul trouble. Yes his rotation is questionable, but I doesn't think a New coach would make this team better
 
It's definitely easier to imagine a head coach getting replaced midseason than a GM, as they are both convenient scapegoats and more in supply. But I feel that it would simply be putting a different shade of lipstick on the same pig, and that's not what we need. We need someone to just take that pig out and make some bacon. And I simply don't trust Olshey to make the bacon.
Well, with Olshey we have one thing going for us: he no longer has any cap space to make horrible Free Agent decisions with!

No seriously, hear me out.

Olshey has been absolutely AWFUL when it comes to targeting Free Agents. But, without actually reviewing all of them, he's been at least 50/50 on trades, and arguably his best talent is in the draft. We are now in a position where Olshey only has 2 avenues for roster changes, and they happen to be the two avenues he's better at than the average GM.

We are in a much better position with Olshey as GM than we are with Stotts as Coach.
 
I'll go with Neil Olshey. What's wrong with the team? To borrow a political chestnut from James Carville, "The roster, stupid." I've been following the NBA for more years than I care to admit to and I can't recall a Blazers team with a more messed up roster than what we have today. Sure, there are a lot of reasons for that, not the least of which is the Texas Traitor, but the fact remains that the roster two years later is a mess. The total lack of a starting caliber SF coupled with the grab bag of big men, none good enough, except maybe Nurkic, to warrant the clear identification as the starter is the prime problem. Tough to really saddle the coach or the guards as the main culprits (although many around here love to) when you don't have starters at the SF, PF, or C position that you can count on to hit a fricking shot when you toss them the ball in an open position. To me, picking Swanigan and Collins as your big off-season moves and then not making other trades to clear some of the lumber in front of them in the big man pecking order is mystifying and frustrating.

The Blazers pissing away home games and too many close games in the easiest part of their schedule has likely cost them any shot at anything but the 7th or 8th seed and another early exit from the playoffs. That's the best case. It's also cost Dame and CJ any consideration at being All-Stars (something that's needed in order to attract future free agents here).

The ball is firmly in Olshey's court. He's had more than a fourth of a season to evaluate the team. Given the Blazers' cap situation, the only way to improve the roster quickly is via trades. They're not likely to finish with a poor enough record to get any immediate help in next year's draft. So, Neil, finally there's a use for Taggart's stupid motto: Do Something!
 
What are these standing orders you speak of?

Neil said at a meet and greet his first season that he wanted a complete rebuild and PA said no. That was part of the reason Cho was also let go.

Olshey's hands are tied. He could have gotten assets for LA . He could have tanked and tried for another star to pair with Dame. He has done a decent job but the past few games have highlighted that we cannot defend a good 2 with a small backcourt . He also killed us with the four contracts he handed out last summer. He was given another contract though so again it falls on PA.
 
Another team that couldn't shoot....

Duckworth
Williams
Kersey
Drexler
Porter


Porter was solid and Duck was okay in the mid range. Kersey was always an inconsistant work in progress and Drexler's frog-legged jumper....you wouldn't teach that to your worst enemy's kid. And Buck Williams....forget it outside of 4' for reliability of any kind.

Dame/CJ are or should be better than anyone on that roster so the top 2 shooters are on this current roster when comparing starting 5's. Nurkic is more talented than Duck, so why such a disparity in results? The answers are somewhat obvious but lack of shooting was an even worse issue on that former team.
 
Another team that couldn't shoot....

Duckworth
Williams
Kersey
Drexler
Porter


Porter was solid and Duck was okay in the mid range. Kersey was always an inconsistant work in progress and Drexler's frog-legged jumper....you wouldn't teach that to your worst enemy's kid. And Buck Williams....forget it outside of 4' for reliability of any kind.

Dame/CJ are or should be better than anyone on that roster so the top 2 shooters are on this current roster when comparing starting 5's. Nurkic is more talented than Duck, so why such a disparity in results? The answers are somewhat obvious but lack of shooting was an even worse issue on that former team.
And I still don't believe that Crabbe is what made our offense work the past two seasons. Our rotation is EXACTLY the same, with the only difference being +Pat/-Crabbe.

I think it's the simple fact of a rotten foundation. The longer you go before replacing the foundation, the shakier the house becomes until it all falls down. Basically: the league knows how to guard this pathetic offense since we've been running the same, elementary scheme for 7 years now.
 
Another team that couldn't shoot....

Duckworth
Williams
Kersey
Drexler
Porter


Porter was solid and Duck was okay in the mid range. Kersey was always an inconsistant work in progress and Drexler's frog-legged jumper....you wouldn't teach that to your worst enemy's kid. And Buck Williams....forget it outside of 4' for reliability of any kind.

Dame/CJ are or should be better than anyone on that roster so the top 2 shooters are on this current roster when comparing starting 5's. Nurkic is more talented than Duck, so why such a disparity in results? The answers are somewhat obvious but lack of shooting was an even worse issue on that former team.

We're not just looking at outside shooting as a difference between the current squad and that team. Duck, Buck and Jerome could all finish around the rim with the best of them. Can you say that about any of the bigs on this team? Nurk is the best and he's still an adventure when he gets the ball near the rim. Our current SFs are as likely to dribble the ball off their foot as they are to be able to finish a fast break. Kersey was a killer running the break.
 
We're not just looking at outside shooting as a difference between the current squad and that team. Duck, Buck and Jerome could all finish around the rim with the best of them. Can you say that about any of the bigs on this team? Nurk is the best and he's still an adventure when he gets the ball near the rim. Our current SFs are as likely to dribble the ball off their foot as they are to be able to finish a fast break. Kersey was a killer running the break.

Duck didn't finish around the rim very well and Kersey couldn't dribble either. The difference was, that team ran and Drexler/Porter would get Kersey the ball on the break in the right spot at the right time to where he didn't have to dribble. Kersey finished well around the rim on the break but had somewhat smaller, dry hands and didn't finish in traffic in the half court very well. Buck had huge hands and finished great on the break and pretty well in the half-court.

The biggest difference is, that team ran and created easier opportunities for players who weren't good shooters and not as good in the half court. They also played better defense and created turnovers. Turnovers let to more easy baskets.

This teams seems to avoid trying to get easy baskets at all costs.
 
Duck didn't finish around the rim very well and Kersey couldn't dribble either. The difference was, that team ran and Drexler/Porter would get Kersey the ball on the break in the right spot at the right time to where he didn't have to dribble. Kersey finished well around the rim on the break but had somewhat smaller, dry hands and didn't finish in traffic in the half court very well. Buck had huge hands and finished great on the break and pretty well in the half-court.

The biggest difference is, that team ran and created easier opportunities for players who weren't good shooters and not as good in the half court. They also played better defense and created turnovers. Turnovers let to more easy baskets.

This teams seems to avoid trying to get easy baskets at all costs.

You're not going to get any argument from me about running. I have no doubt that the current Blazers need to run more than they do. I don't know if Stotts keeps a tight rein on things because of fear of turnovers or something, but getting out on the break seems to me to be the only possible solution to getting some better offensive production out of this roster.
 
Another team that couldn't shoot....

Duckworth
Williams
Kersey
Drexler
Porter


Porter was solid and Duck was okay in the mid range. Kersey was always an inconsistant work in progress and Drexler's frog-legged jumper....you wouldn't teach that to your worst enemy's kid. And Buck Williams....forget it outside of 4' for reliability of any kind.

Dame/CJ are or should be better than anyone on that roster so the top 2 shooters are on this current roster when comparing starting 5's. Nurkic is more talented than Duck, so why such a disparity in results? The answers are somewhat obvious but lack of shooting was an even worse issue on that former team.
They were also an elite rebounding team, played defense, and without trying to look up stats, I seem to remember they ran a lot and racked up a decent amount of assists. At least, a lot more than the current team.
 
JJ Hickson came in and put up 13 and 10 under Stotts, and had many in here discussing him over Aldridge. Hickson is in China the past 2 years. Still only 29.

Robin Lopez had arguably his best season in Portland of his career. Still good. But not what he was under Stotts.

Crabbe hasn't improved in his first season away from Stotts.

Batum hasn't been any better.

Mason Plumlee easily had the 2 best years of his career so far under Stotts.

Harkless?

Napier?

Who left and became so much better? At the fault of Stotts

Terry is that you?
 
I can't believe no one has blamed the Lakers.
 
E.) All the Above

Paul Allen has allowed himself to be pushed aside by Vulcan. The Blazers are no longer a franchise. They are no longer a brand. They are no longer the team that the fans were so passionate about. All of that is gone. The Blazers are now a corporation. An entity that is about making money and thats it. Not about putting a winning team on the floor. The Blazers have the seond or third most expensive roster in the league. And for what? If Allen is going to spend his money he should spend it right.

Spending that money wisely is Allen's responsibility. Apparently he is letting Neil Olshey make all the calls. Bad fucking move. Olshey screwed the pooch by signing Turner to such an expensive contract, then resigning Crabbe, Leonard, and Harkless. Moe at least showed some merit then. Neil set the Blazers back years.
Listening to Terry Stotts post game conferences after losses is an earache. Could he be any more vague with his answers? During the game he is mostly sitting, spectating instead of coaching. Waiting for teams to build heavy leads before taking time outs, his inability to adapt to the opponents. He has had 7 years with little to show for it. Dude is gone.
The players themselves don't escape fault. Their play is lackluster and unspirited. They have no energy. Leadership is poor. No consistency or chemistry. Its like this team just suddenly forgot the fundamentals of basketball. Pass the ball. Keep the offense moving. Don't stand around. If it looked they were putting in effort I might give them the benefit of the doubt, but its like they are paid and they don't care. Or they are just that bad....maybe its a little bit of both. Maybe there is a middleground. But, one thing is for sure, there is enough fault to go around.
 
To me we've seen this team beat good teams and play good defense this season...defense has come at the expense of offense....shots coming up short...to me from the small sample size I've seen over the last 3 losses....it's on Mo, CJ and Nurk......not finishing layups and throwing up bricks ...takes 4-5 guys scoring in double figures to win and we're lucky recently to have 2-3 guys score...the bench has had some drop off but that's somewhat due to our guards not getting them touches...season is early...3 losses in a row always riles the board....I don't blame Stotts, Olshey or Dame for the recent slack
 
At least no one's blaming the refs. That's refreshing ;)

:cheers:
 
The red jerseys are orange. AND They have a tire track going across them.

Burn the fuckers.
They look like cheesy Halloween costumes with caution..extremely flammable warning stickers on the label
 

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