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Scalma said:
Doug McDermott.

No but seriously it should be Ellington or Rudy Gay.
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I actually would rather get Dougie McBuckets... the dude is 6’8” and can shoot the lights out... over 40% 3pt career in NBA and hasn’t even played in a good system... I would definitely try to get McDermott on the cheap
 
Gronk Brady said:
I actually would rather get Dougie McBuckets... the dude is 6’8” and can shoot the lights out... over 40% 3pt career in NBA and hasn’t even played in a good system... I would definitely try to get McDermott on the cheap
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Wait, you complain about the prospect of getting Courtney Lee but want Doug McDermott???

He's awful at everything except for 3pt shooting...
 
BonesJones said:
Wait, you complain about the prospect of getting Courtney Lee but want Doug McDermott???

He's awful at everything except for 3pt shooting...
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Courtney Lee is on the downside of his career at 33 years old and is either a backup at SG or creates an extremely small starting lineup at SF... Dougie McBuckets can flat out score, has size, and hasn’t hit his prime yet... I like upside over an aging journeyman who averaged 12 ppg in 30 min on a 28 win team
 
Gronk Brady said:
Courtney Lee is on the downside of his career at 33 years old and is either a backup at SG or creates an extremely small starting lineup at SF... Dougie McBuckets can flat out score, has size, and hasn’t hit his prim yet... I like upside over an aging journeyman who averaged 12 ppg in 30 min on a 28 win team
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Doug "McBuckets" isn't efficient from inside the arc (less than 50%) and doesn't get the the FT like (apx .15 FTr). So he's only effective as a 3pt shooter, and doesn't add anything else...

Allen Crabbe also averaged 13ppg and 30 min on a bad team, that doesn't mean he's a good player to have in the rotation. That 28 win team didn't even want to sign him for a cheap QO offer.
 
McDermott off the bench with guys like CJ and Lillard would have open looks all game long. He just needs to stand there and make shots. Be Kyle Korver. Be Steve Kerr. Be a guy who a team needs to keep an eye on. We don’t have that.
 
BonesJones said:
Doug "McBuckets" isn't efficient from inside the arc (less than 50%) and doesn't get the the FT like (apx .15 FTr). So he's only effective as a 3pt shooter, and doesn't add anything else...

Allen Crabbe also averaged 13ppg and 30 min on a bad team, that doesn't mean he's a good player to have in the rotation. That 28 win team didn't even want to sign him for a cheap QO offer.
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You have obviously never seen McDermott play... you don’t even watch games, just look up useless stats and arm measurements to judge a player... Doug hasn’t hit his prime and has been stuck in shitty offenses... he was the best scorer in the country in college and even tho he was misused in NBA still shot over 40% 3pt every season
 
Walt Williams, James Jones and Wesley Person! I miss those guys. Not sure if McDermott is anything like them.
 
calvin natt said:
McDermott off the bench with guys like CJ and Lillard would have open looks all game long. He just needs to stand there and make shots. Be Kyle Korver. Be Steve Kerr. Be a guy who a team needs to keep an eye on. We don’t have that.
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I could probably be talked into McDermott. Not everyone we go after has to be a perfect player. Just fill a role.
 
Scalma said:
I could probably be talked into McDermott. Not everyone we go after has to be a perfect player. Just fill a role.
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He is only 26 years old, never played in a good system, 6’8” and can shoot from anywhere on the court
 
calvin natt said:
McDermott off the bench with guys like CJ and Lillard would have open looks all game long. He just needs to stand there and make shots. Be Kyle Korver. Be Steve Kerr. Be a guy who a team needs to keep an eye on. We don’t have that.
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Our defense would also be horrible because McDermott can't guard a paperclip. We don't have the luxury of being able to play poor defenders at SF.
 
BonesJones said:
Doug "McBuckets" isn't efficient from inside the arc (less than 50%) and doesn't get the the FT like (apx .15 FTr). So he's only effective as a 3pt shooter, and doesn't add anything else...

Allen Crabbe also averaged 13ppg and 30 min on a bad team, that doesn't mean he's a good player to have in the rotation. That 28 win team didn't even want to sign him for a cheap QO offer.
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At least watch the first 4 shots he makes... cutting to the basket, moving without the ball, putting ball on court and driving, dunking... how is he only a 3pt shooter?? Please watch and respond... and this is NBA competition, not some low level overseas league
 
Gronk Brady said:

At least watch the first 4 shots he makes... cutting to the basket, moving without the ball, putting ball on court and driving, dunking... how is he only a 3pt shooter?? Please watch and respond... and this is NBA competition, not some low level overseas league
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I can find a game where Nurkic drops 33 and looks like Hakeem. It's highlights bro. HCP can make Joel Pryzbilla look like Shaq.

So you say he has these skills... okay. Somehow they don't translate into production. Is 48% from 2pt for a career good? It's not. Somehow he hasn't produced. He also gets lit up every time he steps on the court, and is one of the worst defenders in the league. You don't seem to value defense too much.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Did you even watch??? I’m proving your point that all he can do is shoot threes is wrong
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In terms of productivity, a 97 ORTG isn't priductive, and that's the output from his 2pt shots. So yes, he can only shoot 3s productively. He may look good on scoring plays, but if he was actually good on an NBA level, he'd have a better percentage from 2. It's simple logic. And for some reason, the trash Mavs don't even want him. But he should get minutes for a playoff team?
 
BonesJones said:
In terms of productivity, a 97 ORTG isn't priductive, and that's the output from his 2pt shots. So yes, he can only shoot 3s productively. He may look good on scoring plays, but if he was actually good on an NBA level, he'd have a better percentage from 2. It's simple logic. And for some reason, the trash Mavs don't even want him. But he should get minutes for a playoff team?
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So the trash Knicks wanting to salary dump 33 year old Courtney Lee makes him good enough to get minutes on a playoff team, but 26 year old McDermott isn’t... contradict yourself much? There you go again with you cockamamie stats on small sample sizes as the end all be all for what a player can do... I was simply showing you a video that he moves well without the ball and can dribble and drive... had nothing to do with his game log
 
McDermott is actually pretty good off the ball. That’s a rep he’s had. I haven’t watched enough of him to talk about his defense but I’m assuming it’s not very good. But who cares? Wayne Ellington isn’t very good either. Lee is better but he’d be undersized as a SF. A consistent outside threat would make up for those deficiencies, especially when he’s got Nurkic/Collins/Aminu/Davis helping him out. Defense is more of a team thing than individual anyway.
 
We need a SF, but let's keep this within Olshey's abilities. Detlef Schremph was pretty good as Shawn Kemp's sidekick on a Finals team.
 
Gronk Brady said:
So the trash Knicks wanting to salary dump 33 year old Courtney Lee makes him good enough to get minutes on a playoff team, but 26 year old McDermott isn’t... contradict yourself much? There you go again with you cockamamie stats on small sample sizes as the end all be all for what a player can do... I was simply showing you a video that he moves well without the ball and can dribble and drive... had nothing to do with his game log
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How can I contradict myself when talking about two completely different situations? You avoid context to try to prove a point and it's comical.

They don't want Courtney Lee because they're rebuilding, and because they already have a starting SG. Dallas is a rebuilding team with no bench and McDermott is young. Different situations.

McDermott is a decent finisher around the rim, but from 3ft all the way to the 3pt line, he's absolutely horrible. He's not a guy that can get to the rim well either. McDermott finished around the rim less than once per game in over 21 minutes per... But of course, that's factual evidence that goes against your argument, so somehow it wont count or something.

How are shooting percentages implausible? What the hell are you actually talking about? You have these pre-conceived notions that you're too stubborn to budge on, so when hard evidence and simple stats that accurately reflect production, you sit here and say that it's "cockamamie". Lmao.

So you don't think shooting percentages mean anything? Got it. I'll remind you of that from now on.
 
BonesJones said:
How can I contradict myself when talking about two completely different situations? You avoid context to try to prove a point and it's comical.

They don't want Courtney Lee because they're rebuilding, and because they already have a starting SG. Dallas is a rebuilding team with no bench and McDermott is young. Different situations.

McDermott is a decent finisher around the rim, but from 3ft all the way to the 3pt line, he's absolutely horrible. He's not a guy that can get to the rim well either. McDermott finished around the rim less than once per game in over 21 minutes per... But of course, that's factual evidence that goes against your argument, so somehow it wont count or something.

How are shooting percentages implausible? What the hell are you actually talking about? You have these pre-conceived notions that you're too stubborn to budge on, so when hard evidence and simple stats that accurately reflect production, you sit here and say that it's "cockamamie". Lmao.

So you don't think shooting percentages mean anything? Got it. I'll remind you of that from now on.
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To be fair Dallas isn’t really rebuilding. They’re going hard after DeAndre Jordan. Withdrawing McDermott was more about getting his cap hold off the books for an immediate move elsewhere. I read that they still have interest in bringing him back.
 
Scalma said:
To be fair Dallas isn’t really rebuilding. They’re going hard after DeAndre Jordan. Withdrawing McDermott was more about getting his cap hold off the books for an immediate move elsewhere. I read that they still have interest in bringing him back.
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For a minimum contract? Lol.

Doesn't detract from my point though. He's not good.
 
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