Why are psychedelics the only real ILLEGAL drug?

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Heroin (diacetylmorphine)
Legal to prescribe in: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Hong-Kong, Canada and much more other places.
Morphine is similar to heroin it is generally used in all hospitals as a pain reliever and it can be prescibed in pretty much any country for the same purpose.


Meth/Speed (Methamphetamin,Amphetmine)
Is prescribed to treat ADHD
Brand names of medications that contain, or metabolize into, amphetamine include Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Desoxyn, ProCentra, and Vyvanse, as well as Benzedrine in the past.


Cocaine (benzoylmethylecgonine)
Cocaine can actually be prescribed in American but it rarely is but... Methylphenidate (Ritalin) has similar effect on your body as cocaine.

Methylphenidate, a Schedule II substance, has a high potential for abuse and produces many of the same effects as cocaine or the amphetamines.

marijuana (Tetrahydrocannabinol, THC)
Can be prescribed in 12 states in America.

Then we have Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine all the drugs that are highly addicting and really damaging to the body and mind perfectly legal and washed deeply into our minds. We see these drugs hundreds if not thousands a time a week.

As I don't see anything wrong with people who smoke weed; I believe all the other drugs can be extremely harmful and very addicting. Personally, I believe that the government demonizes psychedelics because it brings up questions, free thinking and mind expansion.

I think the federal governments want to control us. They want us to consume and oppress. The last thing they need are people to actually open their eyes and actually question the broken system.

They want people to buy things they want instead of getting things they need. They would much rather third world country "A" require help from our government; but at the cost of profit.

And I am a Republican; but this statement is very liberal. Maybe I'm confused. Personally, I believe that everyone should experience enlightenment and question the system. You don't necessarily need psych to help you on this journey. I heard meditation works well too.

I just question why the federal government black lists these types of chemicals. I mean they won't even allow professionals to use these drugs for help in therapy and mental disorders.

 

[Rhal]

Heroin (diacetylmorphine)
Legal to prescribe in: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Hong-Kong, Canada and much more other places.
Morphine is similar to heroin it is generally used in all hospitals as a pain reliever and it can be prescibed in pretty much any country for the same purpose.


Meth/Speed (Methamphetamin,Amphetmine)
Is prescribed to treat ADHD
Brand names of medications that contain, or metabolize into, amphetamine include Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Desoxyn, ProCentra, and Vyvanse, as well as Benzedrine in the past.


Cocaine (benzoylmethylecgonine)
Cocaine can actually be prescribed in American but it rarely is but... Methylphenidate (Ritalin) has similar effect on your body as cocaine.

Methylphenidate, a Schedule II substance, has a high potential for abuse and produces many of the same effects as cocaine or the amphetamines.

marijuana (Tetrahydrocannabinol, THC)
Can be prescribed in 12 states in America.

Then we have Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine all the drugs that are highly addicting and really damaging to the body and mind perfectly legal and washed deeply into our minds. We see these drugs hundreds if not thousands a time a week.

As I don't see anything wrong with people who smoke weed; I believe all the other drugs can be extremely harmful and very addicting. Personally, I believe that the government demonizes psychedelics because it brings up questions, free thinking and mind expansion.

I think the federal governments want to control us. They want us to consume and oppress. The last thing they need are people to actually open their eyes and actually question the broken system.

They want people to buy things they want instead of getting things they need. They would much rather third world country "A" require help from our government; but at the cost of profit.

And I am a Republican; but this statement is very liberal. Maybe I'm confused. Personally, I believe that everyone should experience enlightenment and question the system. You don't necessarily need psych to help you on this journey. I heard meditation works well too.

I just question why the federal government black lists these types of chemicals. I mean they won't even allow professionals to use these drugs for help in therapy and mental disorders.

I do believe most drugs should be legal but have certain ones only availabe to be bought and consumed in a red light type district. Psychedelics need to be a little better controlled then marry jane if legalized because of the dumbasses who might operate machines while under the influence.

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I do believe most drugs should be legal but have certain ones only availabe to be bought and consumed in a red light type district. Psychedelics need to be a little better controlled then marry jane if legalized because of the dumbasses who might operate machines while under the influence.

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I 100% agree. I think that only trained professionals in the field of psychiatry can prescribe this. In fact, possibly only allowing the patient to consume this drug in the presence of a trained professional. But to not even allow psychatrists to use this as a tool is insane!

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Most legal drugs are uppers. Productivity, my man, productivity!

I agree with your takes on legality of psychedelics. My one use was in a pretty controlled environment with a lot of experienced users, and it was FANTASTIC... side effect: I was able to speak Spanish fluently (so fluently, the teacher wondered what had happened) for about 6 weeks afterward. My Spanish grade went from a D+ before the trip to finishing the class with a B+.

 

[magnifier661]

Here is some positive research made with LSD:

Abstract
Following Albert Hofmann's discovery of LSD's psychoactive properties in 1943, and previous to their scheduling as controlled substances, the psychedelic drugs were widely studied—six international conferences and hundreds of papers discussed their potential therapeutic usefulness. The observation that the frightening experience of delirium tremens sometimes led alcoholics to moderate their alcohol intake suggested to early psychedelic researchers that the “psychotomimetic” experience thought to be produced by LSD could be used to treat alcoholism. A number of hypothesis-generating studies employing a variety of research designs to examine this premise were completed, but relatively few controlled trials attempted hypothesis testing. After twenty-five years of study, a combination of flawed methodology, uneven results and social reprehension led to the abandonment of research on the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs, leaving many avenues of inquiry unexplored and many questions unanswered. Today, after a thirty-year hiatus, this research is gradually being resumed, and there is renewed interest in the findings of previous studies. This article explores the history of one branch of psychedelic research, the therapeutic use of LSD in the treatment of alcoholism, and of the events that led to the relabeling of the “hallucinogens” as drugs of abuse.

http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/186/6/457.short

Despite their history, psychedelics have dropped out of psychiatric dialogue for today's trainee psychiatrists (Strassman, 2001). In my own training, references to compounds like LSD, psilocybin and MDMA were usually followed by statements such as ‘have no medical use’. But I was taught about the acute emergencies and social problems associated with their misuse.

Yet in the years between the first synthesis of LSD in the 1930s and the disappearance of psychedelic research by the late 1960s, there was a furious growth of scientific interest in these substances. Many pioneers gave their careers to this field, hoping that psychedelic drugs could be to psychiatry what the microscope is to biology or the telescope is to astronomy: an essential tool to explore the parts of the internal world that are usually inaccessible (Grof, 2001).

By 1965 over 2000 papers had been published describing positive results for over 40 000 patients who took psychedelic drugs with few side-effects and a high level of safety (Masters & Houston, 1970). The techniques were applied to the treatment of anxiety disorders, obsessive-compulsive disorders, depression, bereavement reactions and sexual dysfunction, among others (Newland, 1962; Grof, 2001). In the treatment of addiction, repeated controlled experiments demonstrated a consistent recovery and 6-month abstinence from drinking in 50-90% of participants after brief psychedelic therapy (Abramson, 1967; Hoffer, 1970). Another area where therapy was used successfully was in relieving pain and anxiety in terminal cancer (Kast, 1964).

Despite the volume of publications from this period, most of the published material refers to anecdotal case reports that are of little value by contemporary research standards because they lack sufficient follow-up and control participants (Grob, 1994). Even though results appeared promising, by the 1970s, under pressure from the US justice department, virtually all research had ended. LSD had leaked from the scientific community to a wider audience. By 1966 LSD misuse had become a problem and its possession was made illegal. This prompted the scientific community to distance themselves from interest in such substances. Governments clamped down on research licences, and increasing reports of adverse reactions to psychedelics taken recreationally as opposed to those used in controlled, scientific circumstances (which remained safe) appeared in the literature (Strassman, 2001). As a result, research use ceased while illicit use remained, fuelled by a growing criminal distribution and financial system.

Until very recently, research on psychedelic drugs has been severely restricted, which explains the current lack of knowledge among psychiatrists.

 

[tlongII]

Personally, I believe that the government demonizes psychedelics because it brings up questions, free thinking and mind expansion.

Really? I think most drugs should be legalized merely because of the cost of enforcing the laws. However, I definitely DO NOT believe that you gain anything by taking them.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Heroin (diacetylmorphine)
Legal to prescribe in: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Hong-Kong, Canada and much more other places.
Morphine is similar to heroin it is generally used in all hospitals as a pain reliever and it can be prescibed in pretty much any country for the same purpose.


Meth/Speed (Methamphetamin,Amphetmine)
Is prescribed to treat ADHD
Brand names of medications that contain, or metabolize into, amphetamine include Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Desoxyn, ProCentra, and Vyvanse, as well as Benzedrine in the past.


Cocaine (benzoylmethylecgonine)
Cocaine can actually be prescribed in American but it rarely is but... Methylphenidate (Ritalin) has similar effect on your body as cocaine.

Methylphenidate, a Schedule II substance, has a high potential for abuse and produces many of the same effects as cocaine or the amphetamines.

marijuana (Tetrahydrocannabinol, THC)
Can be prescribed in 12 states in America.

Then we have Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine all the drugs that are highly addicting and really damaging to the body and mind perfectly legal and washed deeply into our minds. We see these drugs hundreds if not thousands a time a week.

As I don't see anything wrong with people who smoke weed; I believe all the other drugs can be extremely harmful and very addicting. Personally, I believe that the government demonizes psychedelics because it brings up questions, free thinking and mind expansion.

I think the federal governments want to control us. They want us to consume and oppress. The last thing they need are people to actually open their eyes and actually question the broken system.

They want people to buy things they want instead of getting things they need. They would much rather third world country "A" require help from our government; but at the cost of profit.

And I am a Republican; but this statement is very liberal. Maybe I'm confused. Personally, I believe that everyone should experience enlightenment and question the system. You don't necessarily need psych to help you on this journey. I heard meditation works well too.

I just question why the federal government black lists these types of chemicals. I mean they won't even allow professionals to use these drugs for help in therapy and mental disorders.

If you stop taking psychedelics, you'll stop hallucinating about the federal government wanting to control us.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

If you stop taking psychedelics, you'll stop hallucinating about the federal government wanting to control us.

 

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Really? I think most drugs should be legalized merely because of the cost of enforcing the laws. However, I definitely DO NOT believe that you gain anything by taking them.

I assume you've tried them before to base that opinion. But it's really quite simple. When a person takes psychedelics; they perceive a different reality. They are aware of just how powerful your mind truly is. The ability to see something and it becomes something else; has a very "spiritual"; not religious mind you; side of things. You begin to perceive that just because something is black, doesn't mean it has to be black. Just because something is round; doesn't mean you can't make something round square.

This type of thinking has lead to very "innovated" thinkers like:

Francis Crick — LSD
Francis Crick — of the DNA-structure discovering Watson, Crick, and Franklin — reportedly told numerous friends and colleagues about his LSD experimentation during the time he spent working to determine the molecular structure that houses all life's information.

In fact, in a 2004 interview, Gerrod Harker recalls talking with Dick Kemp — a close friend of Crick's — about LSD use among Cambridge academics, and tells the Daily Mail that the University's researchers often used LSD in small amounts as "a thinking tool." Evidently, Crick at one point told Kemp that he had actually "perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD." [Image via NYT]

Steve Jobs — LSD
LSD was a big deal for Steve Jobs. How big? Evidently, Jobs believed that experimenting with LSD in the 1960s was "one of the two or three most important things he had done in his life." What's more, he felt that there were parts of him that the people he knew and worked with could not understand, simply because they hadn't had a go at psychedelics."

John C. Lilly — LSD, Ketamine
Neurocientist John C. Lilly was a pioneer in the field of electronic brain stimulation. He was the first person to map pain and pleasure pathways in the brain; founded an entire branch of science exploring interspecies communication between humans, dolphins, and whales; invented the world's first sensory deprivation chamber; and conducted extensive personal experimentation with mind-altering drugs like LSD and ketamine.

It bears mentioning that Lilly's experiments with interspecies communication, personal psychedelic use, and sensory deprivation often overlapped.

Richard Feynman — LSD, Marijuana, Ketamine
Feynman was always careful about drug use, for fear of what it might do to his brain — giving up alcohol, for example, when he began to exhibit symptoms of addiction. In Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!, he writes, "You see, I get such fun out of thinking that I don't want to destroy this most pleasant machine that makes life such a big kick. It's the same reason that, later on, I was reluctant to try experiments with LSD in spite of my curiosity about hallucinations."

Nevertheless, Feynman's curiosity got the best of him when he became acquainted with none other than John C. Lilly and his sensory deprivation tanks. Feynman experimented briefly with LSD, ketamine, and marijuana, which he used to bring on isolation-induced hallucinations more quickly than he could when sober.

Kary Mullis — LSD
Who, you may be asking, is Kary Mullis? Let's put it this way: If you've worked in a biomedical research lab since the 1980's, there is an exceedingly good chance you've performed a polymerase chain reaction (aka PCR, the lab technique that can turn a single segment of DNA into millions of identical copies), or are at least familiar with it. You have Mullis to thank for that. While Mullis didn't invent the PCR technique, per se, he improved upon it so significantly as to revolutionize the field of biomedical research, securing himself a Nobel Prize in chemistry in the process.

The secret to Mullis' breakthrough? In a September, 1994 issue of California Monthly, Mullis says that he "took plenty of LSD" In the sixties and seventies, going so far as to call his "mind-opening" experimentation with psychedelics "much more important than any courses [he] ever took." A few years later, in an interview for BBC's Psychedelic Science documentary, Mullis mused aloud: "What if I had not taken LSD ever; would I have still invented PCR?" To which he replied, "I don't know. I doubt it. I seriously doubt it."

 

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If you stop taking psychedelics, you'll stop hallucinating about the federal government wanting to control us.

And if you think the government isn't trying to control us; then maybe you should "start taking psychedelics".

 

[donkiez]

Cocaine is also used in some surgerys as a numbing agent.

Ecastcy is is actually one of the safest drugs in the world if taken in its pure form and not used regularly. And it feels really good. Ecastcy also has some medical benifits used by fringe psycologists as a way to help people deal with extreme tradgey and terminal illiness.

LSD, mushys and mescaline also have psycological benifits of personal insight and perception.

All drugs should be legal or decriminalised. When you tell people they are only bad and can't have them people want to find out for themselves. Education and rehabilitation is the most effective form of prevention, and promoting safe use when used is equally important.

 

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Cocaine is also used in some surgerys as a numbing agent.

Ecastcy is is actually one of the safest drugs in the world if taken in its pure form and not used regularly. And it feels really good. Ecastcy also has some medical benifits used by fringe psycologists as a way to help people deal with extreme tradgey and terminal illiness.

LSD, mushys and mescaline also have psycological benifits of personal insight and perception.

All drugs should be legal or decriminalised. When you tell people they are only bad and can't have them people want to find out for themselves. Education and rehabilitation is the most effective form of prevention, and promoting safe use when used is equally important.

Yeah man I agree. The only issue with MDMA is how much it could strain your seretonin receptors with over use. In fact, there have been cases where patients have become even more depressed and could cause irreparable harm to these receptors.

Although, it's a fun drug and does make your body feel like it's on cloud 9.

Also, did you know the LD-50 of LSD is 1,000 times the threshold dose? It's safer than any other drug on the planet physically. Yet the government allows people to purchase tobacco legally that kills millions each year.

 

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[oldguy]

Heroin (diacetylmorphine)
Legal to prescribe in: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Hong-Kong, Canada and much more other places.
Morphine is similar to heroin it is generally used in all hospitals as a pain reliever and it can be prescibed in pretty much any country for the same purpose.


Meth/Speed (Methamphetamin,Amphetmine)
Is prescribed to treat ADHD
Brand names of medications that contain, or metabolize into, amphetamine include Adderall, Dexedrine, Dextrostat, Desoxyn, ProCentra, and Vyvanse, as well as Benzedrine in the past.


Cocaine (benzoylmethylecgonine)
Cocaine can actually be prescribed in American but it rarely is but... Methylphenidate (Ritalin) has similar effect on your body as cocaine.

Methylphenidate, a Schedule II substance, has a high potential for abuse and produces many of the same effects as cocaine or the amphetamines.

marijuana (Tetrahydrocannabinol, THC)
Can be prescribed in 12 states in America.

Then we have Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine all the drugs that are highly addicting and really damaging to the body and mind perfectly legal and washed deeply into our minds. We see these drugs hundreds if not thousands a time a week.

As I don't see anything wrong with people who smoke weed; I believe all the other drugs can be extremely harmful and very addicting. Personally, I believe that the government demonizes psychedelics because it brings up questions, free thinking and mind expansion.

I think the federal governments want to control us. They want us to consume and oppress. The last thing they need are people to actually open their eyes and actually question the broken system.

They want people to buy things they want instead of getting things they need. They would much rather third world country "A" require help from our government; but at the cost of profit.

And I am a Republican; but this statement is very liberal. Maybe I'm confused. Personally, I believe that everyone should experience enlightenment and question the system. You don't necessarily need psych to help you on this journey. I heard meditation works well too.

I just question why the federal government black lists these types of chemicals. I mean they won't even allow professionals to use these drugs for help in therapy and mental disorders.

I just had a flashback to 1969. Peace, man.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

meth should be eradicated like polio

 

[donkiez]

Yeah man I agree. The only issue with MDMA is how much it could strain your seretonin receptors with over use. In fact, there have been cases where patients have become even more depressed and could cause irreparable harm to these receptors.

Although, it's a fun drug and does make your body feel like it's on cloud 9.

Also, did you know the LD-50 of LSD is 1,000 times the threshold dose? It's safer than any other drug on the planet physically. Yet the government allows people to purchase tobacco legally that kills millions each year.

Anything in excess is going to be bad for you, even cheeseburgers. Also if you mix XTC with alcohol really weird things start happeing. Ive lost hours of my night and ended up in strange places putting those together to the point of being scary when I think back to it. My only saving grace was that I was feeling so good that it would be hard to really piss anyone off. "Hey man, fuck you!". "Yes! fuck me! EVERYONE!"

Thats facinating about the LD of LSD. I would recomend an LSD trip to everyone at some point in their life. I however abused it as a teenager and tripped bad at a Greatful Dead concert to the point of permantly poisoning myself against it. The time I spent on it expanded my realm of conciousness though and changed me forever in how I view the world and life and death. I do caution though that just cause the physcial LD of that drug is pretty high the negative mental effects of a permafry can mess you up at a much lower dose.

But with all the negative effects of drug put together do not equal the negative effects of our war on drugs, which includes the low grade cut with crappy impurities you get from non regulated street sources.

 

[magnifier661]

Anything in excess is going to be bad for you, even cheeseburgers. Also if you mix XTC with alcohol really weird things start happeing. Ive lost hours of my night and ended up in strange places putting those together to the point of being scary when I think back to it. My only saving grace was that I was feeling so good that it would be hard to really piss anyone off. "Hey man, fuck you!". "Yes! fuck me! EVERYONE!"

Thats facinating about the LD of LSD. I would recomend an LSD trip to everyone at some point in their life. I however abused it as a teenager and tripped bad at a Greatful Dead concert to the point of permantly poisoning myself against it. The time I spent on it expanded my realm of conciousness though and changed me forever in how I view the world and life and death. I do caution though that just cause the physcial LD of that drug is pretty high the negative mental effects of a permafry can mess you up at a much lower dose.

But with all the negative effects of drug put together do not equal the negative effects of our war on drugs, which includes the low grade cut with crappy impurities you get from non regulated street sources.

You make a great point on the mental safety of the drug. And if you review the 5 part series I posted above; they explain that in detail. The real point I'm making is with the right setting and a trained and experienced professional; LSD can be a wonderful tool to break down mental negativity that one creates through drama, stress, depression or other harmful emotional behaviors. I believe our sub conscience have endless barriers built and stored of things we try to forget. The problem is, they are still there; it's just hiding from our conscience mind.

When I've taken large doses of LSD or Psilocybin; I've been able to go deep into that sub conscience and see my problem, deal with it and make peace with it. After the trip, although extremely terrifying at times, leaves me with a feeling of accomplishment and peace. I am much more calm and understanding than I was before. I realize that life is about knowing and accepting who you are and working towards being a better person.

 

[magnifier661]

meth should be eradicated like polio

Yeah that would be great man! And stop giving it to ADHD kids too.

 

[tlongII]

I assume you've tried them before to base that opinion. But it's really quite simple. When a person takes psychedelics; they perceive a different reality. They are aware of just how powerful your mind truly is. The ability to see something and it becomes something else; has a very "spiritual"; not religious mind you; side of things. You begin to perceive that just because something is black, doesn't mean it has to be black. Just because something is round; doesn't mean you can't make something round square.

This type of thinking has lead to very "innovated" thinkers like:

Francis Crick — LSD
Francis Crick — of the DNA-structure discovering Watson, Crick, and Franklin — reportedly told numerous friends and colleagues about his LSD experimentation during the time he spent working to determine the molecular structure that houses all life's information.

In fact, in a 2004 interview, Gerrod Harker recalls talking with Dick Kemp — a close friend of Crick's — about LSD use among Cambridge academics, and tells the Daily Mail that the University's researchers often used LSD in small amounts as "a thinking tool." Evidently, Crick at one point told Kemp that he had actually "perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD." [Image via NYT]

Steve Jobs — LSD
LSD was a big deal for Steve Jobs. How big? Evidently, Jobs believed that experimenting with LSD in the 1960s was "one of the two or three most important things he had done in his life." What's more, he felt that there were parts of him that the people he knew and worked with could not understand, simply because they hadn't had a go at psychedelics."

John C. Lilly — LSD, Ketamine
Neurocientist John C. Lilly was a pioneer in the field of electronic brain stimulation. He was the first person to map pain and pleasure pathways in the brain; founded an entire branch of science exploring interspecies communication between humans, dolphins, and whales; invented the world's first sensory deprivation chamber; and conducted extensive personal experimentation with mind-altering drugs like LSD and ketamine.

It bears mentioning that Lilly's experiments with interspecies communication, personal psychedelic use, and sensory deprivation often overlapped.

Richard Feynman — LSD, Marijuana, Ketamine
Feynman was always careful about drug use, for fear of what it might do to his brain — giving up alcohol, for example, when he began to exhibit symptoms of addiction. In Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!, he writes, "You see, I get such fun out of thinking that I don't want to destroy this most pleasant machine that makes life such a big kick. It's the same reason that, later on, I was reluctant to try experiments with LSD in spite of my curiosity about hallucinations."

Nevertheless, Feynman's curiosity got the best of him when he became acquainted with none other than John C. Lilly and his sensory deprivation tanks. Feynman experimented briefly with LSD, ketamine, and marijuana, which he used to bring on isolation-induced hallucinations more quickly than he could when sober.

Kary Mullis — LSD
Who, you may be asking, is Kary Mullis? Let's put it this way: If you've worked in a biomedical research lab since the 1980's, there is an exceedingly good chance you've performed a polymerase chain reaction (aka PCR, the lab technique that can turn a single segment of DNA into millions of identical copies), or are at least familiar with it. You have Mullis to thank for that. While Mullis didn't invent the PCR technique, per se, he improved upon it so significantly as to revolutionize the field of biomedical research, securing himself a Nobel Prize in chemistry in the process.

The secret to Mullis' breakthrough? In a September, 1994 issue of California Monthly, Mullis says that he "took plenty of LSD" In the sixties and seventies, going so far as to call his "mind-opening" experimentation with psychedelics "much more important than any courses [he] ever took." A few years later, in an interview for BBC's Psychedelic Science documentary, Mullis mused aloud: "What if I had not taken LSD ever; would I have still invented PCR?" To which he replied, "I don't know. I doubt it. I seriously doubt it."

Interesting. Doesn't change my opinion though. Just because these high-achieving people took drugs doesn't mean they benefited by it. I don't believe there has ever been a study that proves they are beneficial. It's really just a matter of how much they harm you IMO. And yes, I've done my share of drugs.

 

[Denny Crane]

Ibuprofen is a legal psychoactive drug.

 

[MickZagger]

Molly is good shit. I love that stuff once every 6 months or so.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Ibuprofen is a legal psychoactive drug.

I took 5 extra strength once, not knowing this fact... once.

 

[mgb]

You make a great point on the mental safety of the drug. And if you review the 5 part series I posted above; they explain that in detail. The real point I'm making is with the right setting and a trained and experienced professional; LSD can be a wonderful tool to break down mental negativity that one creates through drama, stress, depression or other harmful emotional behaviors. I believe our sub conscience have endless barriers built and stored of things we try to forget. The problem is, they are still there; it's just hiding from our conscience mind.

When I've taken large doses of LSD or Psilocybin; I've been able to go deep into that sub conscience and see my problem, deal with it and make peace with it. After the trip, although extremely terrifying at times, leaves me with a feeling of accomplishment and peace. I am much more calm and understanding than I was before. I realize that life is about knowing and accepting who you are and working towards being a better person.

Shrooms are so much better than acid. I use to stop by a field while walking to a tavern a couple miles from my house and pick some shrooms and drink them down with some beer and have a real nice trip watching people play pool. Those balls were streaking around the table.

The problem with acid is that you can go on a bad trip and the last part is just a speedy waiting to come down when I would argue with anyone and if no one was around argue with myself!

 

[mgb]

Ibuprofen is a legal psychoactive drug.

I use to take 6-8 800mg Ibuprofen at a time for teeth ache/head ache. Took them so much they messed up my stomach so I can't take them any more. I liked them because they didn't mess up my mind. Maybe a little speedy feeling but that was it.

 

[jlprk]

As for those propaganda pictures--When some activity is illegal and must be done secretly, mature communication is replaced by wild guesses about dosage by a person alone. Moderation is replaced by extremes. Only addictive personalities do it and moderate personalities aren't present to influence them to tone it down.

When some activity is legal, the loner is alone no more and receives moderation influence from the larger group.

...and I'm not even mentioning the insanity of a 30-year sentence for hurting yourself...

 

[huevonkiller]

As for those propaganda pictures--When some activity is illegal and must be done secretly, mature communication is replaced by wild guesses about dosage by a person alone. Moderation is replaced by extremes. Only addictive personalities do it and moderate personalities aren't present to influence them to tone it down.

When some activity is legal, the loner is alone no more and receives moderation influence from the larger group.

...and I'm not even mentioning the insanity of a 30-year sentence for hurting yourself...

Yeah the police crusade against narcotics is scarier to me than the propaganda pictures above.

I agree completely with you, every drug should be legal. That doesn't mean I want people to take them but it is ultimately not my choice to make for them.

 

[huevonkiller]

Anything in excess is going to be bad for you, even cheeseburgers. Also if you mix XTC with alcohol really weird things start happeing. Ive lost hours of my night and ended up in strange places putting those together to the point of being scary when I think back to it. My only saving grace was that I was feeling so good that it would be hard to really piss anyone off. "Hey man, fuck you!". "Yes! fuck me! EVERYONE!"

Thats facinating about the LD of LSD. I would recomend an LSD trip to everyone at some point in their life. I however abused it as a teenager and tripped bad at a Greatful Dead concert to the point of permantly poisoning myself against it. The time I spent on it expanded my realm of conciousness though and changed me forever in how I view the world and life and death. I do caution though that just cause the physcial LD of that drug is pretty high the negative mental effects of a permafry can mess you up at a much lower dose.

But with all the negative effects of drug put together do not equal the negative effects of our war on drugs, which includes the low grade cut with crappy impurities you get from non regulated street sources.

That's pretty cool.