Why are the "No on 9" protestors not protesting in black neighborhoods

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KingSpeed said:
Why? How is a committeed relationship between two men be any different than a relationship between a man and a woman? I've been with my partner for 11 years. My straight brother and sister are "married" to their spouses. Why am I not "married"? What's the difference? Being gay isn't a choice. It's who I am. Why should my being gay mean that I have less rights than anyone else?
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If you chose a domestic partnership, you would have *every* single right that a married person in California would have. It would just be called a domestic partnership, not a "marriage". There are not rights that are being lost here, just the term "marriage".
 
Xericx said:
I don't think the term "marriage" should apply to two people of the same sex.
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...and why don't you think that? That "term" that you hold so sacred to your heart? What has influenced your definition? Was it your upbringing? Was it your church? Was it your fear?
 
Xericx said:
If you chose a domestic partnership
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...you truly are a fool if you think it was his "choice"!!!

Xericx said:
you would have *every* single right that a married person in California would have. It would just be called a domestic partnership, not a "marriage". There are not rights that are being lost here, just the term "marriage".
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...every single right EXCEPT FOR THE RIGHT TO MARRY!!!
 
HAAK72 said:
...you truly are a fool if you think it was his "choice"!!!



...every single right EXCEPT FOR THE RIGHT TO MARRY!!!
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He didn't mean being gay was my choice. He meant if I chose to get a "domestic partnership."
 
This debate doesn't really matter because we'll win eventually. That's what happens. Progress. One day, most assuredly in my lifetime, gays will be allowed to marry. If a black man can win the presidency in this country, the gays can win the right to marry. The passing of Prop 8 is just a bump in the road.
 
KingSpeed said:
This debate doesn't really matter because we'll win eventually. That's what happens. Progress. One day, most assuredly in my lifetime, gays will be allowed to marry. If a black man can win the presidency in this country, the gays can win the right to marry. The passing of Prop 8 is just a bump in the road.
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progress is crucial...
 
I think so too. I think in a couple of decades we'll look back on people who discriminated against gays as the same types of people who discriminated against blacks. It's just so stupid.
 
Yes. This matter will be just as significant and impactful to the struggles of black americans in the 1950s. :crazy:
 
Xericx said:
Yes. This matter will be just as significant and impactful to the struggles of black americans in the 1950s. :crazy:
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Says the guy who doesn't want to see homosexuals get equal rights. Obviously this isn't a big issue to you.
 
GMJ said:
Says the guy who doesn't want to see homosexuals get equal rights. Obviously this isn't a big issue to you.
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again with the words in my mouth. All rights are the same. Its just a simple issue of nomenclature of the legal structure.
 
But if you want to diminish the struggles of the african americans in the 50s and 60s who were *ACTUALLY* denied rights, so be it.
 
discriminating based on a characteristic, it's all the same bullshit to me.
 
Xericx said:
again with the words in my mouth. All rights are the same. Its just a simple issue of nomenclature of the legal structure.
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...so your stance is simply defined by the legal structure? I find that hard to believe [answer the questions I ask in my previous post as to why the term "marriage" is not about love:wub:, but strictly about man and women? And how that is not a "right" for all? What has influenced your definition? Was it your upbringing? Was it your church? Was it your fear? Why do you care so much?]
 
HAAK72 said:
...and why don't you think that? That "term" that you hold so sacred to your heart? What has influenced your definition? Was it your upbringing? Was it your church? Was it your fear?
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Its just always what I've been used to. Marriage is a man and a woman. I was raised in a culture where there was a mom, dad and kids....as the family backbone. While its changed. Sue me, I grew up in the fucking 'burbs and went to Jesuit High School.
 
Xericx said:
Its just always what I've been used to. Marriage is a man and a woman. I was raised in a culture where there was a mom, dad and kids....as the family backbone. While its changed. Sue me, I grew up in the fucking 'burbs and went to Jesuit High School.
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...oh ok, just as I thought, you have absolutely no reason for your opposition to gay marriage [cool, just a few more converted votes to go and equal rights for EVERYONE!!!]

FYI - I grew up in little ole Silverton, OR and I promise you that Silverton is a lot more "traditional" of a place than "the fucking burbs" and JHS [minus our recent elected Mayor of course...but even that proves that progress is OK...embrace it, accept it, and love it!!!]
 
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Yeah, I've never understood the concept of Protesters and Rioters. Why protest the war in Downtown Portland? The most liberal area in the country. And why in the hell did black rioters burn South Central during the Rodney King riots and not Beverly Hills.
 
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