Why Black Lives Matter movement is bullshit

[Denny Crane]

Cop shoots a black man in a wheel chair.

Looks like outright murder to me.

 

[Sinobas]

Police say he "lunged" at them with knife, not knowing this video existed.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Making it into a race problem when it's not doesn't solve the problem. It's bad for our society.

This sort of thing happens to white people all the time. Ever hear BLM protest about any of these?

So because white people don't get upset when other white people are shot by police, black people better shut the fuck up and sit quietly in the back of the bus.

 

[Sinobas]

 

[Sinobas]

So because white people don't get upset when other white people are shot by police, black people better shut the fuck up and sit quietly in the back of the bus.

You're the king of making silly strawman arguments. I don't know how I can state my position any more clearly.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[Denny Crane]

You're the king of making silly strawman arguments. I don't know how I can state my position any more clearly.

Seems he summed up your argument, actually.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You're the king of making silly strawman arguments. I don't know how I can state my position any more clearly.

I'm just pointing out how silly some of the things you post are. You're upset because black people don't protest white people being shot by police.

Here is the BLM website that states what they are proposing. http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

This benefits white, black, asian and latino people.

Do you see anything on that site that you agree with? Disagree with?

 

[MarAzul]

better shut the fuck up and sit quietly in the back of the bus

I am sort of surprise you pulled that out your ass. Not a good draw.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

God bless S2.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...y-kohn-white-men-69-percent-arrested-violent/

"If one considers the absolute number of offenders and it turns out there are a larger number of offenders from Group A than Group B, then it stands to reason that Group A is the greater threat in terms of likelihood of criminal acts," said Lorie Fridell, a criminologist at the University of South Florida.

Robert Brame, a criminology professor at the University of South Carolina, echoed Fridell’s assessment.

"The statistical fact is that you’re more likely to be a victim of a white perpetrator than a black one just because there are so many more whites in the population," Brame said.

It makes me sad when professors make idiotic statements that would embarrass a 10 year old.

Every city in the US doesn't have the exact percentage of black people as the US as a whole.

 

[Sinobas]

Of course, that is just a silly semantical argument. Like saying more people die in car accidents than in combat, so driving a car is a greater threat. Well, ok, but would you rather drive to the grocery store or fight on the front lines of a ground war?

But what's more, as I've repeated many times here, its very misleading, because "white" people only kill more in total when you count all latinos as "white". And the general public does not consider latinos to be white. Yet Denny keeps repeating that stat.

Blacks commit murder at such a higher rate, that their totals are even more than any other ethnic group. But face the facts, achademics are spineless cowards who will bend over backwards and do anything to avoid saying anything that might be construed as racist.....against any race other than whites that is.

 

[blue32]

Of course, that is just a silly semantical argument. Like saying more people die in car accidents than in combat, so driving a car is a greater threat. Well, ok, but would you rather drive to the grocery store or fight on the front lines of a ground war?

But what's more, as I've repeated many times here, its very misleading, because "white" people only kill more in total when you count all latinos as "white". And the general public does not consider latinos to be white. Yet Denny keeps repeating that stat.

Blacks commit murder at such a higher rate, that their totals are even more than any other ethnic group. But face the facts, achademics are spineless cowards who will bend over backwards and do anything to avoid saying anything that might be construed as racist.....against any race other than whites that is.

And that is why I asked for someone to present some valid stats. Lumping Latinos in with Whites is completely misleading and invalidating the data.

 

[dviss1]

Of course, that is just a silly semantical argument. Like saying more people die in car accidents than in combat, so driving a car is a greater threat. Well, ok, but would you rather drive to the grocery store or fight on the front lines of a ground war?

But what's more, as I've repeated many times here, its very misleading, because "white" people only kill more in total when you count all latinos as "white". And the general public does not consider latinos to be white. Yet Denny keeps repeating that stat.

Blacks commit murder at such a higher rate, that their totals are even more than any other ethnic group. But face the facts, achademics are spineless cowards who will bend over backwards and do anything to avoid saying anything that might be construed as racist.....against any race other than whites that is.

Your posts are completely full of shit. I Can't take anything you say seriously. And your bias is so obvious that I'll probably put you on ignore. You simply don't get it.

 

[dviss1]

Why didn't they tase him....?

 

[Denny Crane]

Why didn't they tase him....?

Looks like an execution to me. They fired 9 shots at him, that I counted.

 

[Denny Crane]

Why didn't they tase him....?

I'd like your post but I didn't really like it.

 

[dviss1]

I'd like your post but I didn't really like it.

Understood. He didn't even deserve to be tased...

 

[dviss1]

I'm just pointing out how silly some of the things you post are. You're upset because black people don't protest white people being shot by police.

Here is the BLM website that states what they are proposing. http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

This benefits white, black, asian and latino people.

Do you see anything on that site that you agree with? Disagree with?

Crickets...

 

[Sinobas]

Your posts are completely full of shit. I Can't take anything you say seriously. And your bias is so obvious that I'll probably put you on ignore. You simply don't get it.

And that post you quoted was simply statistical facts. If you can't handle facts of a matter, then we really can't discuss the issue.

 

[Denny Crane]

Why didn't they tase him....?

Only 20% of cops in Chicago have tasers.

When I was growing up, the cops in Chicago all carried batons. Not a killing tool, but one that can make a person of interest submit to the cop's will. And there is a need for that.

 

[Sinobas]

Crickets...

I didn't respond to that post, because I already addressed that strawman argument several times. See no need to endlessly repeat myself to people who don't want to listen.

 

[dviss1]

And that post you quoted was simply statistical facts. If you can't handle facts of a matter, then we really can't discuss the issue.

Your NOT talking about the issue... You keep bringing up black on black crime when THAT'S NOT THE SUBJECT.

What happens when a black person murders?

THEY FUCKING GO TO PRISON.

What happens when a cop murders?

NOTHING...

Why can't you wrap your mind around that?

Your obvious bias blinds you.

 

[dviss1]

I didn't respond to that post, because I already addressed that strawman argument several times. See no need to endlessly repeat myself to people who don't want to listen.

Link? I don't see that you've ever answered that question as to whether or not you agree that those measures would work for all people not just black folks.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I didn't respond to that post, because I already addressed that strawman argument several times. See no need to endlessly repeat myself to people who don't want to listen.

You didn't respond to what I asked.

 

[blue32]

So far nobody has posted proper statistics. So nobody can argue about it properly. Lumping Latinos and/or Asians in with Whites, is skewing data.

And DVISS, plenty of Cops have gone to jail or faced charges when improperly using their firearms, so your 'nothing' statement is a little to0 disingenuous.

 

[Sinobas]

Your NOT talking about the issue... You keep bringing up black on black crime when THAT'S NOT THE SUBJECT.

What happens when a black person murders?

THEY FUCKING GO TO PRISON.

What happens when a cop murders?

NOTHING...

Why can't you wrap your mind around that?

Your obvious bias blinds you.

See, this just proves that you haven't understood my point. I think cops who murder should go to prison, absolutely. Police brutality is a real problem. What I'm arguing, is the premise that blacks people are being targeted and killed by policemen because of their race. The numbers just don't bear that out. I also don't like the racist nature of the BLM movement. Their leaders have called for the murder of white cops, and their protests are ridiculous and anti-social. If they are not a racist organization, why do they get mad when someone says "all lives matter".

And if black lives matter, why aren't they focusing on the 99.99% of blacks that are murdered by other blacks.

 

[Sinobas]

I posted many videos, of examples where white people were killed by police, when it was way out of line, and I posted stats that show that white people are killed by police disporportionatly to the amount of violent crime they committed. But if a group of white people got together and formed a group called "white lives matter" and did and said the same things as BLM, I'd give the same criticism. Why focus on one race? It's stupid.

 

[MarAzul]

the cops in Chicago all carried batons

Sounds good to me! At least the first responders, the beat cop. But you are not going to get a policy change like this by suspending Grand Juries, and putting Cops on trial that will no doubt be acquitted because they were following police procedures.

The change needs to begin at the top, change the boss or get him to change his policies and procedures. While there are no doubt bad cops, bad policies cause piss poor law enforcement far more that bad cops.

If a bear is roaming the town, they will send for the team to tranquilizes the bear and haul him away. I a schizo is off his meds waving a weapon, they will shoot his ass if he doesn't obey their commands, perhaps don't even bother with a command. That is piss poor policy. You don't expect compliance from a bear, why the hell would you from an irrational person? Expecting rational
behavior from from a person who is not informed or processing rationally, is totally irrational, however, it appears that is the procedure the police are instructed to follow.

 

[blue32]

Sounds good to me! At least the first responders, the beat cop. But you are not going to get a policy change like this by suspending Grand Juries, and putting Cops on trial that will no doubt be acquitted because they were following police procedures.

The change needs to begin at the top, change the boss or get him to change his policies and procedures. While there are no doubt bad cops, bad policies cause piss poor law enforcement far more that bad cops.

If a bear is roaming the town, they will send for the team to tranquilizes the bear and haul him away. I a schizo is off his meds waving a weapon, they will shoot his ass if he doesn't obey their commands, perhaps don't even bother with a command. That is piss poor policy. You don't expect compliance from a bear, why the hell would you from an irrational person? Expecting rational
behavior from from a person who is not informed or processing rationally, is totally irrational, however, it appears that is the procedure the police are instructed to follow.

When I went to a Police 'citizens academy' in the city I live in, they instructed us that their policy is to always (if needed) use one level of force higher than the suspect. So you wave a knife around, I bust out my gun, for example.