WHY did we sign Miller?

[Minstrel]

If you can win multiple championships with Derek Fisher at point guard that in itself proves it's an overrated position.

If you can win championships with players like Rasho Nesterovic, a washed-up Horace Grant, Mario Elie or Kevin Grevey, that in itself proves how overrated the center, power forward, small forward and shooting guard positions are.

 

[Minstrel]

Huh? The Spurs have Duncan, the Lakers have Gasol and Bynum.

No, the Spurs had a revolving door at center. Duncan has been their power forward. I thought you had the NBA TV package?

The Lakers had Gasol at power forward. Bynum is a "great center?" Really? Good luck with that one. He's a high upside player, but he's not great and he was terrible in playoffs last year.

 

[Natebishop3]

If you can win championships with players like Rasho Nesterovic, a washed-up Horace Grant, Mario Elie or Kevin Grevey, that in itself proves how overrated the center, power forward, small forward and shooting guard positions are.

Are we forgetting about David Robinson?

 

[Minstrel]

The top 3 point guards over the past few years are pretty much universally recognized as D-Will, CP3, and Nash. How many championships have they won?

Your logic is pretty weak. I guess Jordan, as easily the top shooting guard in the league, proved in the early part of the career that great shooting guards can't win titles...until he had Pippen on his team, then suddenly he proved that great shooting guards can win titles.

And Tony Parker is every bit as good as Nash or Williams. Has Parker won any championships?

 

[Minstrel]

Are we forgetting about David Robinson?

I didn't forget him. Do you really think he was "great" when he won his title? He was on the downhill side of his career and was merely solid by that point, IMO.

 

[oldguy]

I don't know where to find individual points in the paint stats, but it seems like Miller gets his fair share of points in the paint, especially for a PG.

Go Blazers

 

[Boob-No-More]

If you can win multiple championships with Derek Fisher at point guard that in itself proves it's an overrated position.

If you can win multiple championships with Luc Longley at center, that proves center is an overrated position.

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

I didn't forget him. Do you really think he was "great" when he won his title? He was on the downhill side of his career and was merely solid by that point, IMO.

Hard to say. His first championship he was playing with Timmy, so I'm not sure if he was still a great scorer and he was deferring, or if he had slid that that point.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The top 3 point guards over the past few years are pretty much universally recognized as D-Will, CP3, and Nash. How many championships have they won?

And the best centers have been Dwight Howard and Yao Ming. How many championships have they won? The best small forwards have been Lebron James and Carmelo Anthony. How many championships have they won?

Your arguments just keep getting more and more ridiculous.

BNM

 

[tlongII]

No, the Spurs had a revolving door at center. Duncan has been their power forward. I thought you had the NBA TV package?

The Lakers had Gasol at power forward. Bynum is a "great center?" Really? Good luck with that one. He's a high upside player, but he's not great and he was terrible in playoffs last year.

Duncan has always been the Spurs' center since Robinson retired. He's a power forward only on the media guide.

 

[tlongII]

If you can win multiple championships with Luc Longley at center, that proves center is an overrated position.

BNM

Steve Kerr. John Paxson. B.J. Armstrong. Woot!

 

[Minstrel]

Duncan has always been the Spurs' center since Robinson retired. He's a power forward only on the media guide.

Uh...okay. And Kobe Bryant has always been the Lakers' point guard and initiator. He's an off guard only in their media guide.

We're still back to guards who can run the team's offense being highly valuable. Yay for us having Miller, it seems?

 

[tlongII]

And the best centers have been Dwight Howard and Yao Ming. How many championships have they won? The best small forwards have been Lebron James and Carmelo Anthony. How many championships have they won?

Your arguments just keep getting more and more ridiculous.

BNM

Shaq and Duncan have accounted for how championships during the last decade? Yeah, real ridiculous.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Shaq and Duncan have accounted for how championships during the last decade? Yeah, real ridiculous.

In a thread discussing why we signed Andre Miller, yes VERY ridiculous.

Rather than admit you may have been wrong about Andre Miller ("The dude is not that good") you just keep changing the subject and avoiding the facts.

The facts are Andre Miller is a good player. Not a superstar, not even an all-star, but a good player. His individual stats have been very good since he was moved into his natural role as starting PG, and even more importantly he is helping this team win games in spite of a roster depleted by injuries and a very tough schedule. That's why we signed him.

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

In a thread discussing why we signed Andre Miller, yes VERY ridiculous.

Rather than admit you may have been wrong about Andre Miller ("The dude is not that good") you just keep changing the subject and avoiding the facts.

The facts are Andre Miller is a good player. Not a superstar, not even an all-star, but a good player. His individual stats have been very good since he was moved into his natural role as starting PG, and even more importantly he is helping this team win games in spite of a roster depleted by injuries and a very tough schedule. That's why we signed him.

BNM

BOOM! Headshot!

 

[tlongII]

In a thread discussing why we signed Andre Miller, yes VERY ridiculous.

Rather than admit you may have been wrong about Andre Miller ("The dude is not that good") you just keep changing the subject and avoiding the facts.

The facts are Andre Miller is a good player. Not a superstar, not even an all-star, but a good player. His individual stats have been very good since he was moved into his natural role as starting PG, and even more importantly he is helping this team win games in spite of a roster depleted by injuries and a very tough schedule. That's why we signed him.

BNM

Hey, he helped us win last night. I'll give you that!

 

[THE HCP]

this shit is getting old. I can't stand when people on here either can't admit when they are wrong or just argue to argue. This thread has the poster who's name I won't say but rhymes with DICKS-IN name all over it.

 

[Natebishop3]

this shit is getting old. I can't stand when people on here either can't admit when they are wrong or just argue to argue. This thread has the poster who's name I won't say but rhymes with DICKS-IN name all over it.

PapaG?

 

[THE HCP]

PapaG?

Guess again insider!

 

[Natebishop3]

Guess again insider!

Kingspeed?

 

[THE HCP]

Kingspeed?

You are getting warmer!

 

[Natebishop3]

You are getting warmer!

Hispaniccausingpanic?

Whatever happened to that guy? What a tool....

 

[MrSelfDestruct]

Interesting that every "bad" championship PG you've listed won their respective titles in Phil Jackson's system.

Coincidence?

 

[tlongII]

this shit is getting old. I can't stand when people on here either can't admit when they are wrong or just argue to argue. This thread has the poster who's name I won't say but rhymes with DICKS-IN name all over it.

How is this thread like a MIXUM thread?

 

[oldguy]

I don't see this like a MIXUM thread at all. When someone challenges MIXUM's opinion, he clams up. tlong has stood behind his opinion, whether you agree with his answers or not. Big difference, imo.

Go Blazers

 

[44Thrilla]

http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153693

 

[BasX]

I have stated before, and I'll state it again, we need a hall of fame for threads. This would go in it.

 

[Tince]

I have stated before, and I'll state it again, we need a hall of shame for threads. This would go in it.

Fixed