Why do I have "insufficient privileges to reply” to the Nation Antheim thread?

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I personally think the lawn mowing jokes are deplorable. That's why I never participate in them. They just aren't funny to me.
They're only amusing to me when something unusual comes along. I've made a few, but don't recall many if any wife jokes other than he married up..Waaaaayyyyy up types of things.

My comment about him being awesome was a joke about tone of a post.

I like any joke that is smart. Chappelle made tons of racial jokes and I found most of them hilarious. There just aren't many Dave Chappelles running around.
 
Sly should make it so that only us POCS like myself, Sly and El Prez can post in topics like that.
 
Context is everything, my friend.

If you posted, "I went to the beach with my family and my poor daughter got sand in her vagina, it was so painful" While I would think it's a bit odd you posting that I wouldn't edit or delete it.

If you posted something like, "you're acting like you have sand in your vagina" or "dude, you still have sand in your vagina over us trading Batum?" those are truly personal insults.

It happens, hell, Sinobas called me out on a personal insult the other day. I went back and reread it and sure enough, I could see where it could be taken as one. Did I try to argue about, no, I deleted it and just moved on.
So having a sandy vagina is an insult? Are women who enjoy going to the beach less of a person than everyone else?
 
Screw it, posting my National Anthem thoughts here, since the other thread is locked.


The sad truth is, despite our constitution, we do not live in a utopian country where everyone is treated equally.

The bottom line; anytime one person has the “opportunity” to use their power and influence to control others, “some” people will abuse that power.

“Some” government employees on ALL LEVELS abuse the power they have. Abuse of power is not limited to law enforcement officers picking on one race. It can be any government level employee that has control over permits, collecting taxes or enforcing laws and regulations. Again this abuse of power can happen against anyone, regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender. And the abuse does happen.

In our system, anyone can abuse anyone they target using our legal system. Anyone can sue anyone that want to. Abuse of our legal system happens way too often. Many people have been hurt by others abusing the powers our legal system gives to everyone, regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender.

My point is, we are not playing on a level playing field, NONE OF US, no matter what color we are.

However, not only do we have the right to complain when there is an abuse of power, WE SHOULD COMPLAIN! The point of this discussion is not if, but when, how, and where people that have been abused should complain.

The point many of us are trying to make is. Using our National Anthem to send a message does not help their agenda, there is a huge disconnect. If the goal is to influence and inspire others to correct a problem, disrespecting our National symbol will not achieve that goal.

Here is an example of what I mean.
Say a Catholic has been invited to attend a Jewish friends wedding. The Catholic may not participate in all of the activities due to different beliefs, but will be engaged in the activities in a respectful manner. The Catholic would not use the ceremony as an opportunity to send the message about how ½ million Polish and Hungarian Catholic gypsies were exterminated in the concentration camps by the Nazis during the holocaust, and demand reparations.

Disrespecting a National Anthem is on the same level as disrespecting a religious ceremony.

You may have issues with some government agency. Heck I do, probably against more than one agency. But I would never use our National Anthem to complain about how I have been abused, that would be disrespectful, and unproductive. I would write letters to the appropriate politicians responsible for that agency, and encourage others that have also been abused to do so. If that does not work, go further up the political chain. I would demonstrate in front of the building of the abusive agency to draw attention to them, not at sporting events that draws attention to me. I would contact other government agencies to make them aware of the abuse, such as contacting the FBI to investigate an abuse by law enforcement officers.

The power in the USA is in numbers. Organize as many people as you can supporting a common goal using productive activities. The more people that support your agenda while using productive activities, the better the odds to achieve your goal.

Stop dividing people by disrespecting the National Anthem. That is NOT WORKING to achieve your goal, it is not productive! It does not unite people! It only stimulates conversations about the bad judgment used by the players that are disrespecting a non-related symbol. It does not start conversations to solve the real problem.




Further more, I would like to take this opportunity to voice how displeased I am with Obama for supporting the players disrespecting the Anthem. But it should not have surprised me, as many times as Obama has shit all over the constitution. His legacy will be the worst president in our history. The only thing he did right in 8 years was how he handled the Osama bin Laden disposal. Everything else, he has mismanaged. It will take decades to fix what he broke. Not to mention how he managed to divide a very united country.
 
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I just don't think that you have ever understood what bothers me about your posts.

When you say things like "white society" and "white people" you are lumping everyone who is white into one group. Do you understand why that's problematic?

@Denny Crane, @riverman, @Further , @bodyman5000 and 1, @SlyPokerDog, know I'm not referring to them. Why don't you? It's "problematic" for people who can't handle the truth that systematic white supremacy is keeping society disconnected. NOT the people complaining about it. To call us racist flies in the face of and completely ignores OUR reality.
 
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@Denny Crane, @riverman, @Further , @bodyman5000 and 1, know I'm not referring to them. Why don't you? It's "problematic" for people who can't handle the truth that systematic white supremacy is keeping society disconnected. NOT the people complaining about it. To call us racist flies in the face of and completely ignores OUR reality.
i for one am glad that im supreme. hell i get 50% off taco bell. suck it inferior bitches!
 
I personally think the lawn mowing jokes are deplorable. That's why I never participate in them. They just aren't funny to me.
I avoid the lawn jokes too....it's the lawnmower that I try to focus on and I try to call him a lawn care professional as well..no lawn has ever called me a rookie
 
@Denny Crane, @riverman, @Further , @bodyman5000 and 1, @SlyPokerDog, know I'm not referring to them. Why don't you? It's "problematic" for people who can't handle the truth that systematic white supremacy is keeping society disconnected. NOT the people complaining about it. To call us racist flies in the face of and completely ignores OUR reality.
I'm not trying to rehash this just to be a dick but make a real point. A person here who clearly has a good heart made an effort to defend us by saying poor inner city kids should go to the library to make up for the fact that the schools they are subjected to are garbage. He liked this post.

Yes, I said subjected to because I sure as shit wouldn't let my kid go to one of these schools where everyone loses.

I brought this back up because I feel like we think everyone should do what we would do and do it from the same starting point that we start. That isn't reality.
 
I'm not trying to rehash this just to be a dick but make a real point. A person here who clearly has a good heart made an effort to defend us by saying poor inner city kids should go to the library to make up for the fact that the schools they are subjected to are garbage. He liked this post.

Yes, I said subjected to because I sure as shit wouldn't let my kid go to one of these schools where everyone loses.

I brought this back up because I feel like we think everyone should do what we would do and do it from the same starting point that we start. That isn't reality.

Public Schools are vastly different over the last 20 years. More and more parents are pulling their kids out of the traditional public schools and putting them in Charter or Private schools.

The traditional public schools also have dual education tracks in place creating an elitist system. It's interesting seeing how our public schools evolved during my lifetime. Most of my colleagues are leaving the teaching field entirely for a new career.
 
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Public Schools are vastly different over the last 20 years. More and more parents are pulling their kids out of the traditional public schools and putting them in Charter or Private schools.

The traditional public schools also have dual education tracks in place creating an elitist system. It's interesting seeing how our public schools evolved during my lifetime. Most of my colleagues are leaving the teaching field entirely for a new career.
I honestly don't wanna know about it. My sister in law is an elementary school teacher. The things I hear are ridiculous. I actually sort of tune out when she talks about it.

I remember something about the principal hiding a special needs kid in an advanced class for a semester....I don't remember exactly what the deal was but it sounded shady.

That is back home in Washington. Here we have the bottom ranking schools of the 50 states pretty much every year and they have lotteries to get kids in decent schools.
 
Disclaimer: This is not aimed at anyone specifically, so it should not be edited/deleted/censored.

big·ot
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noun
  1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
If you are unwilling to listen to a person who has a different opinion, you are (by definition) a bigot. I would like to share one point of view that I had slightly altered because of something I read. I have been rather indifferent about the Kaepernick story because I thought it was somewhat pointless. I didn't think it would actually accomplish anything. It was a flash in the pan story, it will run its course, and then it will fade away. I recently read the letter that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote from Birmingham Jail back in 1963. The letter is pretty long, but worth a read because it has some interesting perspective on the recent events.

The quotes that were specifically interesting were such:

https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity."

This is a very eloquent way of shining the spotlight on a very specific demographic of people. If you consider yourself to be a "white moderate," this letter is a punch to the gut. Not everyone can be as well written/well spoken as Dr. King, but this is how you convince people.

tl,dr
 
Cause you don't have enough privileges in you account to cover them?

Now Denny's going to take another 35 of your privileges for the insufficient privilege fee
 
I just don't think that you have ever understood what bothers me about your posts.

When you say things like "white society" and "white people" you are lumping everyone who is white into one group. Do you understand why that's problematic?

"White people are tired of non-white people pointing out the culture of racism that lives deep within our society" how do you know that? That's essentially lumping every single white person into one group and saying that all white people are tired of this one thing. If you said "SOME white people are tired of non-white people pointing out the culture of racism" that would be one thing. That would be an accurate statement, but you're saying ALL white people when you just make a blanket statement like that.

You don't know how all white people feel, just as I'm sure you don't know how all black people feel. You know how you feel. I know how I feel. So I get mad at you and frustrated when I see you lumping me and every other white person into one group and telling us how we feel or what we're experiencing or what we're doing. It's those kinds of broad generalizations that I take issue with. You have never seemed to understand that, and when I disagree with you, you disregard me and label me as a "minimizer."

So all he has to do is to always insert the modifier "most" in front of "white people," and you'll get off his ass?

If I were Dviss, I'd take that deal, then remind you whenever you break it.
 
So all he has to do is to always insert the modifier "most" in front of "white people," and you'll get off his ass?

If I were Dviss, I'd take that deal, then remind you whenever you break it.

I'll take a stab.

I think Nate's point is this. If him or someone else were to come in here and say "All blacks do this, xxxxx" DVISS would flip his shit and call us racist/bigots. Meanwhile he does the same thing when referencing white people.
 
All blacks voted for Obama. Or at least most did.

(so did plenty of white people)

Now what?
 
All blacks voted for Obama. Or at least most did.

Wrong! None of them did.

http://www.allblacks.com/

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Local Sheriff's union wants law enforcement to suspend details protecting the Miami Dolphins

The Broward County Sheriff's Office Deputies Association, a union that represents local deputies in the county's largest law enforcement body, is calling for the suspension of details that escort and otherwise protect the Miami Dolphins as a response to four players kneeling during the national anthem in Seattle last Sunday.


The letter from union president reads as follows:

"To Everyone,


"Today, I contacted the executive board of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association Local 6020 in reference to the actions of a few Miami Dolphin players. As a law enforcement union, we certainly encourage people to exercise their constitutional right of freedom of speech. However, in certain professions, an individual’s freedom of speech must take a back seat to the organization or government entity that they choose to represent. Even the NFL’s governing body and the ownership of individual teams set strict policies in order to make sure players represent the league in the most professional way.


"With this said, I can not fathom why the Miami Dolphin organization and the NFL would allow the blatant disrespect of the American Flag and what it stands for during the national anthem. It is a privilege to play in the NFL, not a given constitutional right. The Miami Dolphin players, staff and family members enjoy full police escorts from the Broward Sheriff’s Office on a regular basis. These escorts often involve putting the men and women of law enforcement agencies at risk as they block intersections during peak traffic times in order to expedite the travel time between facilities.


"We have buried coworkers who have unnecessarily lost their lives protecting the lives of individuals. Some law enforcement officers even lost their lives while protecting the lives of the very same individuals who were protesting against law enforcement. The Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association Local 6020 is seeking the immediate termination of all Miami Dolphin escorts until such time the Miami Dolphins and the National Football League set forth a policy that will not tolerate the disrespect of the American Flag and National Anthem during any sanctioned games or events.


"We no longer support an organization that values financial profit over a minimum conduct standard. What good is it to ask singers to sing the national anthem, honor guards to preform services or ask the United States Air Force to conduct fly overs during the National Anthem if the same organization will not even set a minimum code of conduct for its players?


"Until further notice, I respectfully ask all members of law enforcement not to work any detail associated with the Miami Dolphins unless ordered to do so. Again, I would also respectfully ask the Broward Sheriff’s Office to refuse any security details associated with the Miami Dolphins until such time the Miami Dolphin organization mandates a code of conduct for their players during all sanctioned events.


Jeff Bell


President


Local 6020"

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...nd-details-protecting-the-miami-dolphins.html
 
Local Sheriff's union wants law enforcement to suspend details protecting the Miami Dolphins

The Broward County Sheriff's Office Deputies Association, a union that represents local deputies in the county's largest law enforcement body, is calling for the suspension of details that escort and otherwise protect the Miami Dolphins as a response to four players kneeling during the national anthem in Seattle last Sunday.


The letter from union president reads as follows:

"To Everyone,


"Today, I contacted the executive board of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association Local 6020 in reference to the actions of a few Miami Dolphin players. As a law enforcement union, we certainly encourage people to exercise their constitutional right of freedom of speech. However, in certain professions, an individual’s freedom of speech must take a back seat to the organization or government entity that they choose to represent. Even the NFL’s governing body and the ownership of individual teams set strict policies in order to make sure players represent the league in the most professional way.


"With this said, I can not fathom why the Miami Dolphin organization and the NFL would allow the blatant disrespect of the American Flag and what it stands for during the national anthem. It is a privilege to play in the NFL, not a given constitutional right. The Miami Dolphin players, staff and family members enjoy full police escorts from the Broward Sheriff’s Office on a regular basis. These escorts often involve putting the men and women of law enforcement agencies at risk as they block intersections during peak traffic times in order to expedite the travel time between facilities.


"We have buried coworkers who have unnecessarily lost their lives protecting the lives of individuals. Some law enforcement officers even lost their lives while protecting the lives of the very same individuals who were protesting against law enforcement. The Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association Local 6020 is seeking the immediate termination of all Miami Dolphin escorts until such time the Miami Dolphins and the National Football League set forth a policy that will not tolerate the disrespect of the American Flag and National Anthem during any sanctioned games or events.


"We no longer support an organization that values financial profit over a minimum conduct standard. What good is it to ask singers to sing the national anthem, honor guards to preform services or ask the United States Air Force to conduct fly overs during the National Anthem if the same organization will not even set a minimum code of conduct for its players?


"Until further notice, I respectfully ask all members of law enforcement not to work any detail associated with the Miami Dolphins unless ordered to do so. Again, I would also respectfully ask the Broward Sheriff’s Office to refuse any security details associated with the Miami Dolphins until such time the Miami Dolphin organization mandates a code of conduct for their players during all sanctioned events.


Jeff Bell


President


Local 6020"

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...nd-details-protecting-the-miami-dolphins.html
Good, not for the reasons he wrote. Why are they escorting anyone with the Dolphins anywhere?
 
The oceans are dead.. No need to escort Dolphins anywhere, they don't exist
 
Dolphins can hire their own security firm to protect them. No need to waste police resources on shit like this. In fact, we should have all sporting events taken care of by security firms instead. Save our tax dollars for real police work.
 

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