Why Jerryd Bayless Shouldn't Worry

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So you think it will go over with the fans real good when he leaves to another team, plays well, and then we get to live with the fact that the reason he never played here was because Blake was here?
 
hasoos said:
So you think it will go over with the fans real good when he leaves to another team, plays well, and then we get to live with the fact that the reason he never played here was because Blake was here?
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No, I don't.

So, there. ;)
 
ABM said:
No, I don't.

So, there. ;)
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Right now watching the coaching and GM staff make decisions is like sitting back and getting kicked in the nuts repeatedly. You know it's coming, and you watch them make the same mistakes over, and over and over again. There is nothing worse than watching people not learn from mistakes and repeating the same mistake over and over and over again.
 
For Jerryd's sake I hope he gets a trade. I'd love to think that he'll eventually assume the starter's mantle from Blake and/or Miller, but I don't think he's really got much of a chance with Roy and Nate controlling the direction of this team. Brandon's ego seems to have grown too much, and Nate apparently thinks the only thing a point guard should do is shoot jump shots from the corner and cover opposing 1s (or 2s or 3s as the case may be, with all the switching this team does).

If Nate gets fired and say a guy like Rick Adelman was hired, he'd probably get his shot and flourish, or at least carve himself out a good sized role, but the author is right, J-Bay probably needs a new address.
 
Jerryd needs to escape McMillan asap.

Having a coach who refuses to develop him and with a GM with a massive man-crush on Steve Blake there is no way he's going to realize his potential in Portland.

Free Bayless!
 
Miller will be gone soon, and Jerryd will be playing again.
 
Part of the reason Byron Scott was shipped from New Orleans was his refusal to play younger players. He was shipped, and now their young guys are tearing it up. It was just a few years ago that KP took over for Cheeks because of the same reason. Players will not mature unless you throw them out on the court. There are some players who are "ballers". They don't show anything special in practice, but when it comes to actual games, they come out and perform at another level. They just need the time to get out there and make something happen.
 
Fez W. Bush said:
Jerryd needs to escape McMillan asap.

Having a coach who refuses to develop him and with a GM with a massive man-crush on Steve Blake there is no way he's going to realize his potential in Portland.

Free Bayless!
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Makes me wonder what KP even traded for the him (draft rights) at the time. Plus, we still had Sergio. :dunno:
 
ABM said:
Makes me wonder what KP even traded for the him (draft rights) at the time. Plus, we still had Sergio. :dunno:
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It's simple. So us Blazer fans can get kicked in the nuts again. That's why were here. :devilwink:
 
hasoos said:
It's simple. So us Blazer fans can get kicked in the nuts again. That's why were here. :devilwink:
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Wait a minute! Are you saying that KP is really a double agent that is working for David Stern and who's only goal is keep us down? :)
 
Boise Blazer said:
Wait a minute! Are you saying that KP is really a double agent that is working for David Stern and who's only goal is keep us down? :)
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Yep they run an evil organization with the sole goal of making Blazer fans lives hell. :devilwink:
 
Maybe KP needs to exercise is his executive power and make a decision. BENCH BLAKE. PERIOD.
 
Jerryd will find his niche on this team. He may not be happy about his current role, but if he develops a reliable three pointer, he's a perfect fit next to Roy.
 
maxiep said:
Jerryd will find his niche on this team. He may not be happy about his current role, but if he develops a reliable three pointer, he's a perfect fit next to Roy.
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So we should totally disregard the fact that in 8 minutes of play per game, he is averaging 4.7 points and 1 assist. . Where Steve Blake is averaging 7.7 points and 4 assist in 28 minutes. So it brings up the question, what would Bayless be averaging if he was playing 28 minutes a game. What would we be giving up by having him play that time?

I know you can't really assume he would average these numbers, but if extrapolate out

4.7 pts/8 minutes *28 minutes=16.45 points

1 assist/8 minutes * 28 minutes= 3.5 assist.

Even ifyou cut those numbers down by half, he would still compare comparably to Blake. And that is a pretty big fudge factor to cut down the numbers by 50%.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Dude, KP was tankin.
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The Blazers were losing just as often before as after. The only difference were any of the young players getting experience, or was Juan Dixon jackingup all the shots he wanted.
 
I would love to see Bayless be in the game more...he rocks on my NBA2k10 roster.
 
What about Nate Robinson? Doesn't help defensively but might be a nice fit next to Roy. They also played together back at Washington. Thoughts????

Again I'm not saying he's the answer but.....
 
1 Eye Jack said:
What about Nate Robinson? Doesn't help defensively but might be a nice fit next to Roy. They also played together back at Washington. Thoughts????

Again I'm not saying he's the answer but.....
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I can't envision any scenario under which KP would make moves to get Krypto-Nate. Besides which, I watched enough players shoot over Damon to ever need to see that again.
 
hasoos said:
So we should totally disregard the fact that in 8 minutes of play per game, he is averaging 4.7 points and 1 assist. . Where Steve Blake is averaging 7.7 points and 4 assist in 28 minutes. So it brings up the question, what would Bayless be averaging if he was playing 28 minutes a game. What would we be giving up by having him play that time?

I know you can't really assume he would average these numbers, but if extrapolate out

4.7 pts/8 minutes *28 minutes=16.45 points

1 assist/8 minutes * 28 minutes= 3.5 assist.

Even ifyou cut those numbers down by half, he would still compare comparably to Blake. And that is a pretty big fudge factor to cut down the numbers by 50%.
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In the game where he played 22minutes he had 14 points and 3 assists.
So it's probably fairly accurate to assume!
 
westnob said:
In the game where he played 22minutes he had 14 points and 3 assists.
So it's probably fairly accurate to assume!
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garbage time doesn't count the same as a tight game!

These comparisons aren't convincing me about Playless!


Miller / Blake / Playless = Not the answer


The answer is sitting behind our bench, in street clothes, and is 2 years away from being our PG of the future = Patty-0-Mills!
 
The reason Bayless doesn't play more is the fact he's a poor PG and both Blake & Miller are better at running that position. Why would we want a bad PG playing PG?

It's been stated repeatedly that his natural position is SG, but he's not only too small for that position, but has both Roy & Rudy easliy ahead of him on the depth chart.

Bayless, therefore, is a combo guard (PC name for 'tweener'). Not enough PG talent to be a PG and too small to be a SG.

To be sure, he can do some very good things on the floor at times, but he has to have the right situation for that. And that doesn't come up every game. I agree that Nate doesn't use him enough when those situations arise, but for anyone to think Bayless has some huge future in thie league is pretty comical. Unless he gets a LOT better.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
The reason Bayless doesn't play more is the fact he's a poor PG and both Blake & Miller are better at running that position. Why would we want a bad PG playing PG?

It's been stated repeatedly that his natural position is SG, but he's not only too small for that position, but has both Roy & Rudy easliy ahead of him on the depth chart.

Bayless, therefore, is a combo guard (PC name for 'tweener'). Not enough PG talent to be a PG and too small to be a SG.

To be sure, he can do some very good things on the floor at times, but he has to have the right situation for that. And that doesn't come up every game. I agree that Nate doesn't use him enough when those situations arise, but for anyone to think Bayless has some huge future in thie league is pretty comical. Unless he gets a LOT better.
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Come on, how many times has it been said and I think correctly that we do not need a classic PG to play with Brandon? Look at the issues we are having with Miller. We need a guy who can guard PG's, play off Brandon, and hit the outside shot and at least be a decent ballhandler. IMO the only question on Bayless is whether he can eventually consistently hit the outside shot - he has improved on that this yr in the limited minuted he has had. Amd Bayless add the ability to go inside and draw fouls - something Blake simply cannot do. The big key will be whether he is a good enough shooter - he deserves a chance to show what he can do.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
What about Nate Robinson? Doesn't help defensively but might be a nice fit next to Roy. They also played together back at Washington. Thoughts????

Again I'm not saying he's the answer but.....
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Lorenzo Romar benched Brandon all year in favor of Nate, Will Conroy and Bobby Jones when Roy was a junior. He played the Ginobili role.
 
SpanishFly said:
Come on, how many times has it been speculated that we do not need a classic PG to play with Brandon? Look at the issues we are having with Miller. We need a guy who can guard PG's, play off Brandon, and hit the outside shot and at least be a decent ballhandler. IMO the only question on Bayless is whether he can eventually consistently hit the outside shot - he has improved on that this yr in the limited minuted he has had. Amd Bayless add the ability to go inside and draw fouls - something Blake simply cannot do. The big key will be whether he is a good enough shooter - he deserves a chance to show what he can do.
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Fixed it for you.

Now, it is possible we can have a team without a true PG, but it's not enough to just walk up the floor everytime, drop the ball to Roy and watch his magic. That "PG" would still have to be able to run some pick & roll (Bayless can't), would still need to get the ball to the right player at the right time where that player likes it (Bayless can't) and still need to ensure players are spacing well (Bayless can't) and play some QB.

Lastly, do not misunderstand me. While we have built a running team around a non running player (Roy), we can still be a good 'walk it up the floor' team. I also think it is possible Bayless could someday be that "PG", but he's at least a couple of years away from that. As for me, I think we need to take advantage of all running opportunities.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
garbage time doesn't count the same as a tight game!

These comparisons aren't convincing me about Playless!


Miller / Blake / Playless = Not the answer


The answer is sitting behind our bench, in street clothes, and is 2 years away from being our PG of the future = Patty-0-Mills!
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He played the majority of those minutes against Utah's starters. Patty Mills, huh? :crazy:
 
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