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crandc said:
Wrong. You didn't make me do anything. I am already aware of this group.
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It's just fun watching sly add to your likes section. I mean, him being your lap dog, and all.
 
A supporter of Florida's "don't make white people uncomfortable" law explained it is OK to say slavery existed. But not to talk about slaves being badly treated. The proposed law prohibits teachers from trying to persuade students of a point of view. So apparently saying slavery was bad, or Holocaust was bad, would not be allowed. And obviously saying equality is good would definitely not be prohibited.
President Andrew Johnson, in vetoing birthright citizenship bill (veto was overriden for the first time in US history) complained that birthright citizenship would convey citizenship not only to Black people but to Chinese, Roma, and Native Americans and would make them the equals of whites under law.
I learned that from reading 1619 Project.
Something forbidden in many states.
 
Lanny said:
They said Clinton and Biden would both, crush Trump in the popular vote and they hit the nail on the head.
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Yeah, and the Buffalo Bills should have won, too.
 
Nikole Hannah-Jones, author of 1619 Project, tells a story from her grade school days. Teacher asked each student to draw flag of country their ancestors came from and write paragraph about said country. She and only other Black student in the class looked at each other. Because their past had been taken away, they had no idea which part of Africa their ancestors came from. She arbitrarily picked one country in Africa.
A story prohibited in Florida and other states. It makes white people uncomfortable.
 
crandc said:
Nikole Hannah-Jones, author of 1619 Project, tells a story from her grade school days. Teacher asked each student to draw flag of country their ancestors came from and write paragraph about said country. She and only other Black student in the class looked at each other. Because their past had been taken away, they had no idea which part of Africa their ancestors came from. She arbitrarily picked one country in Africa.
A story prohibited in Florida and other states. It makes white people uncomfortable.
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Maybe some white people not all, Im white and it doesn't make me un comfortable at all. Yeah they still are many white racist but I like to think there are many that are not and its actually going to take all races to address racism and move forward.
 
Hoopguru said:
Maybe some white people not all, Im white and it doesn't make me un comfortable at all. Yeah they still are many white racist but I like to think there are many that are not and its actually going to take all races to address racism and move forward.
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But you can't address it if we're just going to force schools to ignore the history of racism...
 
I plan on purchasing this book. I'll get back to ya.

Amazon product ASIN B09D8RFL2F

In schools and workplaces across the United States, Americans are being indoctrinated with a divisive, anti-American ideology: Critical Race Theory (CRT). Based in cultural Marxism, CRT bullies and demonizes whites while infantilizing and denying agency to blacks, creating a deep racial rift. As Abraham Lincoln famously observed, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." CRT aims to divide the American nation against itself and burn down the house.


In Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory Is Burning Down the House, Carol Swain and Christopher Schorr expose the true nature of Critical Race Theory, and they offer concrete solutions for taking back the country's stolen institutions. They describe CRT in theory and practice, accounting for its origins and weaponization within American schools and workplaces; explain how this ideology threatens traditional American values and legal doctrines, including civil rights; and equip everyday Americans with strategies to help them resist and defeat CRT's pernicious influence.


Carol Swain (PhD)is an award-winning political scientist and former tenured professor at Princeton and Vanderbilt Universities. She is the author or editor of 10 books, including Be the People: A Call to Reclaim America's Faith and Promise and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration.


Christopher Schorrholds a PhDin American Government from Georgetown University. His dissertation ("White Nationalism and its Challenge to the American Right") considers factors that risk mainstreaming white nationalist politics in the United States, including Critical Race Theory.
 
Phatguysrule said:
But you can't address it if we're just going to force schools to ignore the history of racism...
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Totally 100% agree. As a parent I felt it also important to bring up my kids with as much history about racism as I could. And we have a multi race/culture family which is a great thing.
 
Hoopguru said:
Totally 100% agree. As a parent I felt it also important to bring up my kids with as much history about racism as I could. And we have a multi race/culture family which is a great thing.
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I agree, but unfortunately counting on parents to do what we deem right is doomed to fail.
 
ABM said:
I plan on purchasing this book. I'll get back to ya.

Amazon product ASIN B09D8RFL2F

In schools and workplaces across the United States, Americans are being indoctrinated with a divisive, anti-American ideology: Critical Race Theory (CRT). Based in cultural Marxism, CRT bullies and demonizes whites while infantilizing and denying agency to blacks, creating a deep racial rift. As Abraham Lincoln famously observed, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." CRT aims to divide the American nation against itself and burn down the house.


In Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory Is Burning Down the House, Carol Swain and Christopher Schorr expose the true nature of Critical Race Theory, and they offer concrete solutions for taking back the country's stolen institutions. They describe CRT in theory and practice, accounting for its origins and weaponization within American schools and workplaces; explain how this ideology threatens traditional American values and legal doctrines, including civil rights; and equip everyday Americans with strategies to help them resist and defeat CRT's pernicious influence.


Carol Swain (PhD)is an award-winning political scientist and former tenured professor at Princeton and Vanderbilt Universities. She is the author or editor of 10 books, including Be the People: A Call to Reclaim America's Faith and Promise and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration.


Christopher Schorrholds a PhDin American Government from Georgetown University. His dissertation ("White Nationalism and its Challenge to the American Right") considers factors that risk mainstreaming white nationalist politics in the United States, including Critical Race Theory.
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Why don’t you just read this crap in private and leave the rest of us out of it?? You claim you aren’t racist yet you’re constantly pushing this “enlightened” bullshit. Accept your racial bias and move on. Waving this type of propaganda on this particular message board is nothing more than intentional trolling, because you DO know better. Your book looks like nothing more than further white rationalization of it’s own ugly racist history. And like always, let’s blame the blacks who are fighting to bring the inequities front and center, instead of burying them as we have for centuries. Every time black society calls bullshit, white society paints THEM as the racists rather than accept the obvious truth. I used to think you were clueless, but now I believe you are very calculating. But whatever, it’s a shameful troll job on your part.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Why don’t you just read this crap in private and leave the rest of us out of it?? You claim you aren’t racist yet you’re constantly pushing this “enlightened” bullshit. Accept your racial bias and move on. Waving this type of propaganda on this particular message board is nothing more than intentional trolling, because you DO know better. Your book looks like nothing more than further white rationalization of it’s own ugly racist history. And like always, let’s blame the blacks who are fighting to bring the inequities front and center, instead of burying them as we have for centuries. Every time black society calls bullshit, white society paints THEM as the racists rather than accept the obvious truth. I used to think you were clueless, but now I believe you are very calculating. But whatever, it’s a shameful troll job on your part.
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I owe you two beers for this post!
 
ABM said:
I plan on purchasing this book. I'll get back to ya.

Amazon product ASIN B09D8RFL2F

In schools and workplaces across the United States, Americans are being indoctrinated with a divisive, anti-American ideology: Critical Race Theory (CRT). Based in cultural Marxism, CRT bullies and demonizes whites while infantilizing and denying agency to blacks, creating a deep racial rift. As Abraham Lincoln famously observed, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." CRT aims to divide the American nation against itself and burn down the house.


In Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory Is Burning Down the House, Carol Swain and Christopher Schorr expose the true nature of Critical Race Theory, and they offer concrete solutions for taking back the country's stolen institutions. They describe CRT in theory and practice, accounting for its origins and weaponization within American schools and workplaces; explain how this ideology threatens traditional American values and legal doctrines, including civil rights; and equip everyday Americans with strategies to help them resist and defeat CRT's pernicious influence.


Carol Swain (PhD)is an award-winning political scientist and former tenured professor at Princeton and Vanderbilt Universities. She is the author or editor of 10 books, including Be the People: A Call to Reclaim America's Faith and Promise and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration.


Christopher Schorrholds a PhDin American Government from Georgetown University. His dissertation ("White Nationalism and its Challenge to the American Right") considers factors that risk mainstreaming white nationalist politics in the United States, including Critical Race Theory.
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Couple of things:

don’t be such a snowflake nobody is “bullying people” by teaching about racism
And F your feelings on the matter.
Sound familiar?
 
Phatguysrule said:
I agree, but unfortunately counting on parents to do what we deem right is doomed to fail.
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certainly, its going to take many approach's. But parents should be a key factor in bring up kids in what is right and wrong and how to be a part of the solution.
 
Hoopguru said:
certainly, its going to take many approach's. But parents should be a key factor in bring up kids in what is right and wrong and how to be a part of the solution.
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Of course we'll need parents to support proper schooling, but if we ignore it in schools we'll never get educated parents to provide that support. It has to start someplace, and the logical place to start is in schools.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Of course we'll need parents to support proper schooling, but if we ignore it in schools we'll never get educated parents to provide that support. It has to start someplace, and the logical place to start is in schools.
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If we're going to make them say Liberty and justice for all, we should teach them what that actually means.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Of course we'll need parents to support proper schooling, but if we ignore it in schools we'll never get educated parents to provide that support. It has to start someplace, and the logical place to start is in schools.
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My wife was an elementary school teacher for 40 plus years and she would agree with both of us.
 
Hoopguru said:
My wife was an elementary school teacher for 40 plus years and she would agree with both of us.
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Yeah, I don't think you're wrong at all. Just that you can't expect the parents to start doing it out of the blue. It'll never happen. They'll have to be taught to do it. And the longer we avoid that the worse off our country will be.

Blaming people for not doing things they don't understand is insane.

Like, the only other alternative is preventing people who don't understand from having kids in the first place. Which is obviously not a place we want to go.
 
ABM said:
I plan on purchasing this book. I'll get back to ya.

Amazon product ASIN B09D8RFL2F

In schools and workplaces across the United States, Americans are being indoctrinated with a divisive, anti-American ideology: Critical Race Theory (CRT). Based in cultural Marxism, CRT bullies and demonizes whites while infantilizing and denying agency to blacks, creating a deep racial rift. As Abraham Lincoln famously observed, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." CRT aims to divide the American nation against itself and burn down the house.


In Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory Is Burning Down the House, Carol Swain and Christopher Schorr expose the true nature of Critical Race Theory, and they offer concrete solutions for taking back the country's stolen institutions. They describe CRT in theory and practice, accounting for its origins and weaponization within American schools and workplaces; explain how this ideology threatens traditional American values and legal doctrines, including civil rights; and equip everyday Americans with strategies to help them resist and defeat CRT's pernicious influence.


Carol Swain (PhD)is an award-winning political scientist and former tenured professor at Princeton and Vanderbilt Universities. She is the author or editor of 10 books, including Be the People: A Call to Reclaim America's Faith and Promise and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration.


Christopher Schorrholds a PhDin American Government from Georgetown University. His dissertation ("White Nationalism and its Challenge to the American Right") considers factors that risk mainstreaming white nationalist politics in the United States, including Critical Race Theory.
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Contradictive, ignorant, and repugnant.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Why don’t you just read this crap in private and leave the rest of us out of it?? You claim you aren’t racist yet you’re constantly pushing this “enlightened” bullshit. Accept your racial bias and move on. Waving this type of propaganda on this particular message board is nothing more than intentional trolling, because you DO know better. Your book looks like nothing more than further white rationalization of it’s own ugly racist history. And like always, let’s blame the blacks who are fighting to bring the inequities front and center, instead of burying them as we have for centuries. Every time black society calls bullshit, white society paints THEM as the racists rather than accept the obvious truth. I used to think you were clueless, but now I believe you are very calculating. But whatever, it’s a shameful troll job on your part.
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Wallow in your own.....stuff. I highly respect Carol Swain. Her takes are a breath of fresh air to me. I'm not going to be bullied into a liberal hogwash form of thinking. Black conservatives are working on actual reform, as opposed to finger-wagging shame tactics.
 
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