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Bingo Bango said:
That’s the problem with the left. They don’t know the meaning of many English words, or they intentionally misuse them. Some of the best examples are “Nazi” and “fascist,” which they throw at anybody they dislike. The new entrants are “coup” and “insurrection,” which sound really scary and get leftist all wet and excited. The best thing you can do for a leftist is buy them a dictionary.
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To make it easier for you, I have copy and pasted the definitions @Phatguysrule posted in his thread so you don't even have to click on them.

Insurrection - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

coup d'état - : a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group

Yup, checks out with how I used the words in my post. It's almost like my first language is English, I wonder what yours is.
 
Voodoo said:
To make it easier for you, I have copy and pasted the definitions @Phatguysrule posted in his thread so you don't even have to click on them.

Insurrection - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

coup d'état - : a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group

Yup, checks out with how I used the words in my post. It's almost like my first language is English, I wonder what yours is.
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Sorry, was going to do that once I got to a computer.
 
Bingo Bango said:
That’s the problem with the left. They don’t know the meaning of many English words, or they intentionally misuse them. Some of the best examples are “Nazi” and “fascist,” which they throw at anybody they dislike. The new entrants are “coup” and “insurrection,” which sound really scary and get leftist all wet and excited. The best thing you can do for a leftist is buy them a dictionary.
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But at least we have common sense, with our hearts in the correct place. AND we believe in the Constitution and an actual Democracy. The "Right"? No so much......The Cult of the Right has NO excuse other than greed and self interest. Constitution, Democracy and Patriotism are just buzz words the right uses give their treasonous actions cover. You need to sue the fuck out of wherever you got your so called "education", because they failed you beyond measure......
 
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/...e-donald-trump-as-the-gops-combatant-in-chief

Can Ron DeSantis Displace Donald Trump as the G.O.P.’s Combatant-in-Chief?

In the fall of 2020, when Trump was running for reëlection, he harbored persistent doubts that DeSantis, whom he viewed as his creation, was entirely his ally. DeSantis campaigned for the President, appeared at his rallies in Florida, and occasionally went to Mar-a-Lago. “Ron will tell you he’s doing everything he can for the President, and he’ll sound believable,” a lawyer who speaks regularly to both men told me at the time. But Trump was not convinced.

In the early days of the pandemic, Trump and DeSantis had been happy to lean on each other. When DeSantis joined a press event in the Oval Office and explained his covid policies, Trump held up a chart that the Governor had brought along—an uncharacteristic supporting role.

After Trump lost the Presidential election, he grew concerned that DeSantis no longer needed him. The following spring, Trump scheduled a rally in Sarasota—one of his first since losing—and invited DeSantis to join him onstage. People who know both men told me that DeSantis didn’t decline, but he didn’t confirm, either. “There were alarm bells ringing—will DeSantis appear?” a former Republican congressman told me. “Ron didn’t want to be onstage with Trump.” At the last minute, a condominium tower in Surfside collapsed, and nearly a hundred people were killed. DeSantis rushed to the scene and missed Trump’s speech. “I’ve never seen anyone use Trump for his own purposes, but Ron used Trump,” the former congressman said.

Trump told me repeatedly that he and DeSantis had a “very good relationship,” adding, “I’m proud of Ron.” But others say that, as DeSantis’s popularity grew, tension hardened into resentment. “He won’t kiss the ring,” the political leader who sees DeSantis often told me. After the 2020 election, Trump made Mar-a-Lago his permanent home, but DeSantis rarely showed his face there. He looked busier than Trump, too: as a sitting governor, DeSantis could call a press conference or propose a new initiative anytime, whereas Trump was reduced to appearing on One America News and sending out e-mails.

The thing that grated most was that, as Trump considered running in 2024, DeSantis did not rule out a campaign of his own. The more plausible DeSantis has become as a nominee, the more people have speculated that he might decide to take on Trump.

Trump told me that he was “very close to making a decision” about whether to run. “I don’t know if Ron is running, and I don’t ask him,” he said. “It’s his prerogative. I think I would win.” In nearly every poll of likely Republican contenders, Trump still has a solid advantage: DeSantis’s constituency was Trump’s first. Trump seems to want to keep it that way. A consultant who has worked for several Republican candidates said that the former President had talked with confidants about ways to stop DeSantis: “Trump World is working overtime to find ways to burn DeSantis down. They really hate him.”

But Trump may have good reasons to sit out the election. “He can do everything now that he could do when he was President, except shoot off missiles,” the consultant who knows both him and DeSantis said. “He’s making a lot of money. That’s the most important thing to him.” Without Trump in the primaries, DeSantis would likely have an immediate lead. A nationwide survey, conducted by the pollster Tony Fabrizio, suggests that thirty-nine per cent of Republican voters would support him; his nearest challenger is Mike Pence, with fifteen per cent. Whatever discussions DeSantis is having about the subject are private, in part because the uncertainty is good for him. “The moment he shows up in Iowa, the suspense is over,” the consultant to Republican candidates told me. In the meantime, all of the consultant’s colleagues are lining up to work for DeSantis: “Everyone is trying to get a piece of him.”

DeSantis has remade the political landscape in Florida. It seems conceivable that he could attempt something similar on a national level—though some political observers wonder whether he could endure the countless hours of banal conversation required to succeed in a national election. “He’s going to have to go sit in a diner and listen to the local county chairman jerk off for twenty minutes,” a Republican consultant told me. “I don’t know if he can do that.”

It is possible that the only thing that will complicate DeSantis’s ascent is his own impatience. At forty-three, he can afford to wait. But there is every indication that he doesn’t want to. “Ron has been told for four years that he’s Trump’s successor—that all the women want to sleep with him, and all the men want to be him,” the consultant told me. “Ron has heard way too many times, ‘You’re next.’ ” ...........
 
Bingo Bango said:
That’s the problem with the left. They don’t know the meaning of many English words, or they intentionally misuse them. Some of the best examples are “Nazi” and “fascist,” which they throw at anybody they dislike. The new entrants are “coup” and “insurrection,” which sound really scary and get leftist all wet and excited. The best thing you can do for a leftist is buy them a dictionary.
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Enjoy being on the wrong side of history. Just know, you and your ilk are going to be left behind. This anti-American sentiment by yourself and those like you has no place in power at ANY level. And keep in mind, being on the wrong side of history makes you a villain, and not a "patriot". The founding fathers would probably perform some kind of capital punishment on these fascist fucks. Deep down, you have to know it's true. Once history is written and your side is rightfully reviled, I imagine all your tombstones and memorials will be destroyed, buried, and utterly turned to dust, and hopefully by some future and happy trans kid.

If that is the legacy you want, please continue.
 
My kind of fascist,,,if that's what you want to call him.
 
riverman said:
you might want to reword that thought....it implies you have a preference for facists.
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He only meant it in the sense that, to him he's not a fascist, so for you (or anyone) to say he (DeSantis) is his kind of "fascist", him saying "yeah, he is" is basically his coy way of saying he likes DeSantis and doesn't agree with your definition.
 
julius said:
He only meant it in the sense that, to him he's not a fascist, so for you (or anyone) to say he (DeSantis) is his kind of "fascist", him saying "yeah, he is" is basically his coy way of saying he likes DeSantis and doesn't agree with your definition.
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Awww, gee, julius, you articulate so well. As Billy Joel intimates in his song, "Man, what are you doing here?!!"
 
julius said:
He only meant it in the sense that, to him he's not a fascist, so for you (or anyone) to say he (DeSantis) is his kind of "fascist", him saying "yeah, he is" is basically his coy way of saying he likes DeSantis and doesn't agree with your definition.
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I know...I was being sarcastic
 
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Tell me why hiding behind the "Christian" religion allows people to think they can treat others poorly in the name of God?

Do better.
 
Smart people know that even young children can be taught boundaries. Smart people know that being straight or gay or cis or trans is not just about sex. A straight female teacher casually referring to her husband isn't considered talking about sex. A lesbian teacher casually referring to her wife isn't talking about sex. But bigots who are ready to believe their straight identity and relationships are much more than sexual acts don't have the same respect for me.
 
julius said:
Probably because unlike the numpty tho came up with this, smart people know that the words sexually and sexuality do not mean the same thing.
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OK, , then, go ahead and 'splain that to a 1st grader. Beats Dick and Jane.
 
ABM said:
OK, , then, go ahead and 'splain that to a 1st grader. Beats Dick and Jane.
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Why should I explain to a 1st grader that an adult has a hard time grasping what the difference between sexual harassment among co-workers (which tends to be from straight men to women), and teaching sexuality to k-3 kids as part of a healthy way to learn about themselves and others? I'm not the one who conflates the two drastically different concepts as the same thing, like a bell-end.
 
julius said:
Why should I explain to a 1st grader that an adult has a hard time grasping what the difference between sexual harassment among co-workers (which tends to be from straight men to women), and teaching sexuality to k-3 kids as part of a healthy way to learn about themselves and others? I'm not the one who conflates the two drastically different concepts as the same thing, like a bell-end.
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I'm sure you won't. That said, if they tell you they think they're different, be prepared to consult their parents. It's the right thing to do.
 
ABM said:
I'm sure you won't. That said, if they tell you they think they're different, be prepared to consult their parents. It's the right thing to do.
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Ah yes. ABM, the straight white dude that knows how to be a great parent.

How are your kids doing anyways?
 
ABM said:
I'm sure you won't. That said, if they tell you they think they're different, be prepared to consult their parents. It's the right thing to do.
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Huh?? Why do you make up arguments that make no sense or rarely back up your points??

I swear to Vishnu, you really aren't good at carrying on conversations.
 
RR7 said:
I worked with 3-5 year olds. They had an easier time understanding all of this than you do.
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They probably make more sense and can participate in conversations at a higher cognitive level.
 
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