OT Why Never Trumpers Should Bet on DeSantis Now

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A college teacher with 20 years experience announced intention to continue teaching accurate history in violation of law. Because white students are not such fragile snowflakes that they can't hear about racism and slavery.
 
Teachers in Sarasota were instructed to have no class library, no book sales, and not to read to students. They were also told any parent can have their child opt out of learning any subject.

Free state of Florida.
 
crandc said:
Teachers in Sarasota were instructed to have no class library, no book sales, and not to read to students. They were also told any parent can have their child opt out of learning any subject.

Free state of Florida.
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Horrifying.
 
crandc said:
Teachers in Sarasota were instructed to have no class library, no book sales, and not to read to students. They were also told any parent can have their child opt out of learning any subject.

Free state of Florida.
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Terrible.
 
Most of us think book banning, dictating what can be taught, firing elected local officials, etc terrible. But at least one poster here thinks all that is fabulous. And DeathSantis should do all this to entire country.
 
Perjurer and sleaze bag Alex Jones was with Trump from the beginning. But he now says he supports DeSantis.

Nazis and Alex Jones. Quite a fan club.
 
crandc said:
A college teacher with 20 years experience announced intention to continue teaching accurate history in violation of law. Because white students are not such fragile snowflakes that they can't hear about racism and slavery.
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That's not crt.
 
crandc said:
Most of us think book banning, dictating what can be taught, firing elected local officials, etc terrible. But at least one poster here thinks all that is fabulous. And DeathSantis should do all this to entire country.
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Book bannings.....so you want no filters on content in school libraries? I bet you are all in favor of censorship when it suits your political ideals....
 
What is so dumb about what mtg said? Solar panels and wind turbines cannot replace fossil fuels. You folks seem to live with warped sense of reality. So when someone tells you some common sense you recoil.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Trump was every bit as bad as Hitler. Luckily we had better safeguards in place to prevent authoritarian power grabs than Germany did.

But it was barely enough.
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You people are delusional. The media programmed you with some trump derangenent syndrome.

A true authoritarian would have used the covid crisis to expand his powers. He could have declared martial law during the riots. The left is pushing towards authoritarianism.
 
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beast crnjo said:
What us so dumb about what mrg said? Solar panels and wind turbines cannot replace fossil fuels. You folks seem to live with warped sense of reality. So when someone tells you some common sense you recoil.
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I beg to differ. They can and will replace fossil fuels and coal, of that I am certain. Making a statement like this just tells me you are not paying attention.
 
You figured out beast isn't paying attention? How many of his posts are assumptions about what someone else thinks, would do, believes, experienced?
 
beast crnjo said:
Book bannings.....so you want no filters on content in school libraries? I bet you are all in favor of censorship when it suits your political ideals....
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I bet you are wrong.

I win the bet.

barfo
 
beast crnjo said:
You people are delusional. The media programmed you with some trump derangenent syndrome.

A true authoritarian would have used the covid crisis to expand his powers. He could have declared martial law during the riots. The left is pushing towards authoritarianism.
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No he couldn't have. They were protests, not riots. The population wouldn't stand for that. And we don't have enough military to enforce that.

His supporters wanted freedom. Had he declared martial law he would have lost all of his power immediately.

He hadn't wrecked enough of our systems yet. He was a wannabe authoritarian.
 
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beast crnjo said:
What is so dumb about what mtg said? Solar panels and wind turbines cannot replace fossil fuels. You folks seem to live with warped sense of reality. So when someone tells you some common sense you recoil.
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Along with nuclear power they absolutely can.
 
crandc said:
You figured out beast isn't paying attention? How many of his posts are assumptions about what someone else thinks, would do, believes, experienced?
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You may fit that mold just as well.
 
RR7 said:
There's a great quote from Maya Angelou
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
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BTW, just curious, did you ever attend any of those many Blazer get-togethers, and meet & greets I organized and hosted. I'm not certain if I've met you, or not.
 
ABM said:
BTW, just curious, did you ever attend any of those many Blazer get-togethers, and meet & greets I organized and hosted. I'm not certain if I've met you, or not.
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nope
 
ABM said:
BTW, just curious, did you ever attend any of those many Blazer get-togethers, and meet & greets I organized and hosted. I'm not certain if I've met you, or not.
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I tried to meet you and you never pmed me while you were here :(
 
SlyPokerCat said:
I tried to meet you and you never pmed me while you were here :(
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To be honest, I didn't even open my laptop while out there. Sorry. Actually, most of my time there was spent in The Dalles and Seattle, other than last Saturday's wedding in Eagle Creek.
 
Sad day in Florida, racists can’t teach that racism doesn’t exist
 
Florida teachers are being instructed in the new curriculum prepared by right wing white evangelicals under DeSantis dictat. They are required to say, against all evidence including their own words, that the founders opposed slavery. A discerning student might ask why then did it take a century and a bloody civil war to end slavery. Sorry, can't discuss that. They were told to teach enslaved people immigrated to North America, not that they were kidnapped and brought in chains. They also must teach, against all evidence including their own words, that founders opposed separation of church and state and instead wanted Christian country. The can say civil war happened but are prohibited from teaching about Reconstruction, its defeat and Jim Crow segregation. Between civil war and a very sanitized Martin Luther King, who didn't oppose racism, nothing happened to Black people. At least, nothing that can be taught in Free State of Florida.

And teachers can lose their license if they violate don't say gay. Wording is so vague some teachers are removing all books from classrooms to avoid being accused of having an inappropriate book.
 
crandc said:
Florida teachers are being instructed in the new curriculum prepared by right wing white evangelicals under DeSantis dictat. They are required to say, against all evidence including their own words, that the founders opposed slavery. A discerning student might ask why then did it take a century and a bloody civil war to end slavery. Sorry, can't discuss that. They were told to teach enslaved people immigrated to North America, not that they were kidnapped and brought in chains. They also must teach, against all evidence including their own words, that founders opposed separation of church and state and instead wanted Christian country. The can say civil war happened but are prohibited from teaching about Reconstruction, its defeat and Jim Crow segregation. Between civil war and a very sanitized Martin Luther King, who didn't oppose racism, nothing happened to Black people. At least, nothing that can be taught in Free State of Florida.

And teachers can lose their license if they violate don't say gay. Wording is so vague some teachers are removing all books from classrooms to avoid being accused of having an inappropriate book.
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Smart and normal kids/teens/young adults are not going to stick their heads in the sand forever and not learn everything that the stupid piece of shit DeSantis hopes. Young people are so much smarter than that. If anything it’s going to piss them off and they’ll fight back. That’s how it’s been forever. Another guy who needs a bullet.
 
crandc said:
I oppose political assassination. Just kill politically, not physically.
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If I’m confident that someone’s actions or words are going to cost an innocent person their life, fuck em. What they are doing in FL (don’t say gay) is going to eventually create an environment where some kid/teen (or anyone) takes their life. I think it’s reasonable that’ll happen. Clearly I’m not gonna do it. But if DeSantis got hit by a bus I’d be thrilled.
 
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