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calvin natt said:
If I’m confident that someone’s actions or words are going to cost an innocent person their life, fuck em. What they are doing in FL (don’t say gay) is going to eventually create an environment where some kid/teen (or anyone) takes their life. I think it’s reasonable that’ll happen. Clearly I’m not gonna do it. But if DeSantis got hit by a bus I’d be thrilled.
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Maybe pigeon could help us out.

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crandc said:
I absolutely agree with @calvin natt's assessment. But while I would not cry if he was hit by a bus, I still must oppose political assassination.
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This is basically my stance as well. The opposition to political assassination though ends when someone starts genocidal behavior. That is a no zone.
 
Anyone read The Dead Zone? Protagonist is considering assassinating a Congressman who he knows will become president and start nuclear war. He asks his acquaintances, if you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler?

Off topic but reminded of that.
 
crandc said:
Anyone read The Dead Zone? Protagonist is considering assassinating a Congressman who he knows will become president and start nuclear war. He asks his acquaintances, if you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler?

Off topic but reminded of that.
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Would I? Of course. I don’t get it when people take a hard stance like “two wrongs don’t make a right” in a hypothetical situation where clearly the greater good benefits by taking out a bad guy. Truly bad people - animals/monsters need to be taken out. People are afraid to say it. I don’t understand that. Oh you rape a child? I will GLADLY pull the trigger. So yeah. I would want to kill Hitler.
 
calvin natt said:
Would I? Of course. I don’t get it when people take a hard stance like “two wrongs don’t make a right” in a hypothetical situation where clearly the greater good benefits by taking out a bad guy. Truly bad people - animals/monsters need to be taken out. People are afraid to say it. I don’t understand that. Oh you rape a child? I will GLADLY pull the trigger. So yeah. I would want to kill Hitler.
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100% agree.
 
100% disagree. There is no way to know who the bad people truly are until after their actions.
 
Florida citizens with felony conviction lost their right to vote forever. No appeal. No exceptions. Florida voters overwhelmingly passed an initiative allowing citizens to regain voting rights after release from prison. It passed the same year DeSantis barely won the governorship. He immediately set out to overturn it by attaching requirements that all fines, fees, court costs, restitution be paid. With interest and penalties, a small fine can mushroom into tens of thousands of dollars. There was no data base where a person could find out what they owe or if they were eligible to register to vote. Civil liberties groups filed suit, claiming it was in effect a poll tax, but lost.

Due to racial disparities in criminal justice, the law fell especially hard on Black citizens; 20% of Florida's Black population is ineligible to vote due to past convictions.

DeSantis demanded money for a special election police force accountable only to him personally but no money for people to learn how they can become eligible to vote again. So people relied on state voter registrars.

DeSantis, in front of his hand picked election cops, announced with great fanfare the arrest of 20 people who had "illegally" registered to vote. They face five years in prison.

The wife of one of them talked about how proud her husband had been to vote for the first time in his life. He genuinely thought he was eligible to register.

Republican Jesus. Afflict the afflicted, trample on the downtrodden. And the Republicans will praise you. And as long as you hate gays, you can talk about what a fine Christian you are.

This is what he wants for the country.

Just another fascist bully with better grammar than Trump.
 
crandc said:
Florida citizens with felony conviction lost their right to vote forever. No appeal. No exceptions. Florida voters overwhelmingly passed an initiative allowing citizens to regain voting rights after release from prison. It passed the same year DeSantis barely won the governorship. He immediately set out to overturn it by attaching requirements that all fines, fees, court costs, restitution be paid. With interest and penalties, a small fine can mushroom into tens of thousands of dollars. There was no data base where a person could find out what they owe or if they were eligible to register to vote. Civil liberties groups filed suit, claiming it was in effect a poll tax, but lost.

Due to racial disparities in criminal justice, the law fell especially hard on Black citizens; 20% of Florida's Black population is ineligible to vote due to past convictions.

DeSantis demanded money for a special election police force accountable only to him personally but no money for people to learn how they can become eligible to vote again. So people relied on state voter registrars.

DeSantis, in front of his hand picked election cops, announced with great fanfare the arrest of 20 people who had "illegally" registered to vote. They face five years in prison.

The wife of one of them talked about how proud her husband had been to vote for the first time in his life. He genuinely thought he was eligible to register.

Republican Jesus. Afflict the afflicted, trample on the downtrodden. And the Republicans will praise you. And as long as you hate gays, you can talk about what a fine Christian you are.

This is what he wants for the country.

Just another fascist bully with better grammar than Trump.
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Not saying much if you have better grammar than Donald Trump.
 
tlongII said:
100% disagree. There is no way to know who the bad people truly are until after their actions.
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I thought the premise was that we would know their actions if we could go back in time...
 
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Jewish groups criticized DeSantis for campaigning with Doug Mastriano, Republican candidate for Pennsylvania governor, after Mastriano put on his staff overt anti Semite who said Jews can't be part of their movement, which is for a Christian country.

No doubt DeathSantis will soon tell us how much he loves Israel.
 
crandc said:
Jewish groups criticized DeSantis for campaigning with Doug Mastriano, Republican candidate for Pennsylvania governor, after Mastriano put on his staff overt anti Semite who said Jews can't be part of their movement, which is for a Christian country.

No doubt DeathSantis will soon tell us how much he loves Israel.
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Well, not all Jews are against him. Perhaps, just the democratic ones.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?520889-3/governor-ron-desantis-speaks-jewish-leadership-conference
 
crandc said:
You figured out beast isn't paying attention? How many of his posts are assumptions about what someone else thinks, would do, believes, experienced?
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I've read your blood thirsty posts. And people wonder why i think the left is much more violent. You openly talk of your desire to kill political leaders, then accuse the other side of terrorism for saying things you don't agree with.
 
So i looked it up.
This is how you get the "Media Specialist" certificate. It's a 2 1/2 hour test that says is approx 100 questions. Of course there is a $150 fee to take the test.
http://www.fl.nesinc.com/prepPage.asp?test=010

Pretty straight forward test. There are some sample questions if you look through the link. If you get that far pay particular attention to sample question #11. Seems they want people on the school advisory council as well?

Question- "How can a library media specialist best convey the concept that the library media program is a valuable and essential part of the school and that it can support school improvement?"
Answer D-participating in the school advisory council

The thing is this kind of test could actually be a good thing. I guess it's all about the way it's interpreted and who is doing the interpretation.
 
beast crnjo said:
I've read your blood thirsty posts. And people wonder why i think the left is much more violent. You openly talk of your desire to kill political leaders, then accuse the other side of terrorism for saying things you don't agree with.
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Crandc is "Blood Thirsty" that's pretty rich bro. Pretty sure she recently posted pretty much the opposite of that. I can look it up if you want but it was something like she could not bring herself to actually condone violence?
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Crandc is "Blood Thirsty" that's pretty rich bro. Pretty sure she recently posted pretty much the opposite of that. I can look it up if you want but it was something like she could not bring herself to actually condone violence?
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why even bother with that dude. He is clearly lost
 
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