Why trade Rudy?

[tlongII]

I ain't trading him now! What I liked was he was the first to congratulate LaMarcus after he hit the big 3 late in the 4th quarter. I think Rudy is starting to feel good about the team and his role. I say we keep him.

 

[RR7]

sell high!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Here are my reasons to trade him

1. He doesn't want to play here
2. He plays shitty defense
3. He is still one of 5 rotation guys that play the back court, and is behind Nic at the 3

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I ain't trading him now! What I liked was he was the first to congratulate LaMarcus after he hit the big 3 late in the 4th quarter. I think Rudy is starting to feel good about the team and his role. I say we keep him.

sell high!

RR7's got it right. We need to keep playing him, hope he plays well, and eventually trade him along with Miller and the NO pick for a long-term point guard solution.

 

[andalusian]

RR7's got it right. We need to keep playing him, hope he plays well, and eventually trade him along with Miller and the NO pick for a long-term point guard solution.

So you are saying that we trade Bayless, Rudy and Miller for Bayless and pick?

 

[tlongII]

RR7's got it right. We need to keep playing him, hope he plays well, and eventually trade him along with Miller and the NO pick for a long-term point guard solution.

Who would that be though? I don't see many possibilities.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't know... it really depends on where his head is at. As long as he's playing well, he has a positive attitude, and we're winning.... I say keep him. If we get a trade proposal that knocks our socks off, trade him.

 

[Nhawz]

Who would be a better fit coming off the bench that is high energy and can spread the floor for batum and roy whith his shooting ability!? And hes cheap! Keep him

 

[RR7]

I was half joking, but really, I doubt he's happy here still, just because we got rid of Bayless, and are giving him some minutes to start the season. It's still a similar offense, still Nate. Still Portland, and we still have Roy. I don't want to dump him for a first rounder. We need someone who can contribute, and after moving Bayless, I certainly don't want Elliot Williams getting Rudy's minutes. But if the right deal comes around, you have to expect another pouting session is one argument with Nate away.

 

[Nikolokolus]

For the right trade offer I'd trade just about anybody on this roster aside from Brandon and Nic, so from that respect I don't think Rudy playing well or giving effort makes him less tradeable. Like MM I see the short terms success he's having through a long term lens and I doubt he's going to stay happy, nor is he likely to get many of the minutes that are alotted to Matthews, Nic or Brandon in the backcourt.

The clincher is whether or not he's changed his mind about wanting to go home to Spain and how other teams perceive him.

 

[hasoos]

I wouldn't be surprised if they groomed him to be the starting PG after Miller leaves. I think Roy and Rudy have started to work pretty well together now that they are finally getting the chance to play together in bulk minutes.

 

[Natebishop3]

Don't get me wrong, I still think Rudy is gone. I think he's playing his value up and once we get a deal we like, he's gone. I think Miller is gone too. I wouldn't be surprised if a major trade is made before the deadline. The only possible barrier might be if we're playing extremely well and Cho doesn't want to mess with our chemistry. If we're at the top of the league and playing at a high level, I don't think the FO would want to mess with a good thing. That's why the Bayless trade was made BEFORE the season started.

 

[andalusian]

Don't get me wrong, I still think Rudy is gone. I think he's playing his value up and once we get a deal we like, he's gone. I think Miller is gone too. I wouldn't be surprised if a major trade is made before the deadline. The only possible barrier might be if we're playing extremely well and Cho doesn't want to mess with our chemistry. If we're at the top of the league and playing at a high level, I don't think the FO would want to mess with a good thing. That's why the Bayless trade was made BEFORE the season started.

I think so too. Miller and Rudy are just trade bait at this point, imho. It will be very surprising if they are here after the trade deadline.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I wouldn't be surprised if they groomed him to be the starting PG after Miller leaves. I think Roy and Rudy have started to work pretty well together now that they are finally getting the chance to play together in bulk minutes.

With who at the point? I have been an avocate of trying this, but only for a few minutes a game. For more than that I still do not like it. At least not yet. Now Rudy, Roy and a PG can work. But not with Rudy or Roy as the pG. IMHO

 

[HailBlazers]

I think so too. Miller and Rudy are just trade bait at this point, imho. It will be very surprising if they are here after the trade deadline.

I'll be very surprised if we get some real value out of these guys. That being said I think the chances of one of them sticking around is bigger than you may think.

 

[RoyToy]

I think so too. Miller and Rudy are just trade bait at this point, imho.

Agreed and it needs to happen.

Rudy is just w/e at this point and Miller just isn't a great fit and never will be. In order for the Blazers to be serious contenders Miller needs to be traded imo. Once the playoffs start and Miller and Roy are on the court at the same time and Roy has the ball it's basically like playing 4v5 on offense.

 

[andalusian]

I'll be very surprised if we get some real value out of these guys. That being said I think the chances of one of them sticking around is bigger than you may think.

Time will tell. There are always opportunities to do stuff near the deadline - and the Blazers have multiple assets to make things happen - Expiring, overseas stash, young-guns, TPE, picks. Add the fact that there is one star publicly lobbying to be traded ('Melo) and one that is in a holding pattern (CP3) - and something is going to go down.

We will see, I suppose.

 

[Natebishop3]

I just heard CP3 on Jim Rome's show and he was still extremely non-committal when asked by Rome about his future with the team. I don't think he's going to be there after this season.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Rudy seemed really happy last night. The bench was very very into the game and seemed like a very cohesive unit. He stood up and cheered alot and had a smile most of the game.

 

[Targus]

Come on, people.

He may be one of the worst defensive players in the game.

Last night he was 2-7 on FG % and -2 for game against the Clips. He also had zero assists.

The guy is terrible. If this is "high", I hate to see low.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Who would that be though? I don't see many possibilities.

Still hoping for Conley + ??, but I think that ship has long since sailed.

 

[RR7]

Low was him near tears on media day, saying he wanted to go home.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Still hoping for Conley + ??, but I think that ship has long since sailed.

I think the braintrust has their sights set a little higher than that ... maybe not CP3 high like KP's pipedream back in June, but higher than a middle of the road point guard like Conley (FWIW, I actually kind of like his game a little bit). a prime candidate to me would be a guy like Devin Harris and his situation with Avery Johnson who already traded him when he was at Dallas and tried to trade him again before the start of training camp this year.

 

[MickZagger]

Here are my reasons to trade him

1. He doesn't want to play here
2. He plays shitty defense
3. He is still one of 5 rotation guys that play the back court, and is behind Nic at the 3

I can live with a player that play shitty D if that players logging 20-25 minutes a night. As long as that player can possibly hit 4-5 threes on any given night.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I can live with a player that play shitty D if that players logging 20-25 minutes a night. As long as that player can possibly hit 4-5 threes on any given night.

Spoken like a true Zags fan

 

[Targus]

Really? I just can't settle for a player with THAT crappy of D. Now when it makes other players work that much harder, creates turns in momentum and was one of the major reason for a past series loss in the playoffs.

I guess, for me, bball comes down to scoring more points than the other team. You allow 30, but score 31, WIN. Kiki V. was that way - terrible D, but a scorer. Rudy is just plain terrible on D and an adequate shooter (I know, he lead the league once...). Get rid of him.

 

[MickZagger]

Spoken like a true Zags fan

What can I say? I love the deepball.

Unlike Rudy though, my Zags have actually got better at defense the past couple seasons.

 

[MickZagger]

Really? I just can't settle for a player with THAT crappy of D. Now when it makes other players work that much harder, creates turns in momentum and was one of the major reason for a past series loss in the playoffs.

I guess, for me, bball comes down to scoring more points than the other team. You allow 30, but score 31, WIN. Kiki V. was that way - terrible D, but a scorer. Rudy is just plain terrible on D and an adequate shooter (I know, he lead the league once...). Get rid of him.

I can think of several players who were lousy on D, but had a place in the league because they could drain the 3 ball at a good rate.

Did I ever mention Dana Barros was one of my favorite players of all-time?

 

[Natebishop3]

I just wish we had made a bigger push for Darren Collison.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Why? Just on the outside chance that Chicago might ante up their 2016 second rounder.