Will Olshey Make A Trade By The Deadline?

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Mediocre Man said:
In fairness to Olshey, that has been reported multiple times that was at the request of Donald Sterling to save money
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Yup, pure salary dump and their shot at the number one overall pick was super slim, since I think they were slotted somewhere around 9th or 10th in the order.
 
Hobbesarable said:
A prospective team will probably wait until FA to pick up Hickson. Why trade for him when you can go after him during FA? Besides, they wouldn't have to give up something valuable in the process.
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The only reasons i can think of is:
1) a chance to win it all this year
2) Maybe by trading for him it opens up cap space that they would not of previously had this summer.

Can we offer an unbalanced trade scenario? If so how much. That of course would eliminate us from the free agency market, but if the player was worth it........

Plus we would still have the mid-level exception. (Or what ever it is called now)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The only reasons i can think of is:
1) a chance to win it all this year
2) Maybe by trading for him it opens up cap space that they would not of previously had this summer.
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Point 1. Do you really think there's some championship contender out there dying for a backup 4 who doesn't play defense to push them over the top?
Point 2. If a team gets him as a cap space clearing plan, that means that the Blazers are taking back a player (or players) with guaranteed money left on their deal, which hurts our cap-space. Maybe Neil can find a guy that he wants for the long-term, but I really doubt it (given Hickson's presumed value around the league).
 
Nikolokolus said:
Point 1. Do you really think there's some championship contender out there dying for a backup 4 who doesn't play defense to push them over the top?
Point 2. If a team gets him as a cap space clearing plan, that means that the Blazers are taking back a player (or players) with guaranteed money left on their deal, which hurts our cap-space. Maybe Neil can find a guy that he wants for the long-term, but I really doubt it (given Hickson's presumed value around the league).
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For Part 2, there may be a way. There are a couple of teams (one fewer now that MEM got under) that are really close to lux tax or apron. We can do an unbalanced (for ~2M or so) trade using JJ, or package up all of our expirings for a player making 10M or so. The first would still be less than JJ's cap hold and leave us ~8M to play with. The second, well, we'd have a 10M player and about 3-4M to spend under the cap, and another ~2.5M "room" exception.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Point 1. Do you really think there's some championship contender out there dying for a backup 4 who doesn't play defense to push them over the top?
Point 2. If a team gets him as a cap space clearing plan, that means that the Blazers are taking back a player (or players) with guaranteed money left on their deal, which hurts our cap-space. Maybe Neil can find a guy that he wants for the long-term, but I really doubt it (given Hickson's presumed value around the league).
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1. Is a great point, but maybe that team has interior defense from the center position, and needs rebounding and a scoring puinch? (Not sure who?)

2. Taking back salary isn't the worst thing, as long as it's the right salary. For example, taking back Jones from Houston would be great, even though he has guaranteed money
 
Nikolokolus said:
Point 1. Do you really think there's some championship contender out there dying for a backup 4 who doesn't play defense to push them over the top?
Point 2. If a team gets him as a cap space clearing plan, that means that the Blazers are taking back a player (or players) with guaranteed money left on their deal, which hurts our cap-space. Maybe Neil can find a guy that he wants for the long-term, but I really doubt it (given Hickson's presumed value around the league).
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No I don't. We would have to get really lucky. A team would have to suffer a season ending injury to their PF. (I.e Blake Griffin going down and the Clips trading Bledsoe for JJ)

So yes the chances are small for us moving JJ.
 
jlprk said:
I just looked at this thread and am surprised that you guys didn't begin with the best indicator, Olshey's history on Midseason Trade Deadline Day. Does he use the day or not?

Asst. GM
On 2/16/10, he and Dunleavy traded Marcus Camby to Portland for Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw.

On 2/17/10, they traded, with the Cavs and Wizards, Sebastian Telfair and Al Thornton to get Drew Gooden.

GM
On 2/24/11, he traded Baron Davis and a first round pick (#1-Kyrie Irving) to Cleveland for Mo Williams and Jamario Moon.

On 3/15/12, he traded Brian Cook and a 2015 #2 to Washington for Nick Young.

Conclusion: He tends to make horrible trades at the deadline.
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FTFY
 
Hopefully he learned some lessons on those deals.

Never, NEVER trade unprotected picks.
 
I doubt oshley will make a deal. I think he's gonna wait this season out. I suspect he wants as much flexibility possible. This is the year he makes his true mark.
 
IIRC people ("insiders") were saying this tough road trip will determine if this team is a playoff or lotto team.

I think Neil makes more than one deal.
 
What's left? Miami and New Orleans right?

Don't we know already?
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
IIRC people ("insiders") were saying this tough road trip will determine if this team is a playoff or lotto team.

I think Neil makes more than one deal.
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You got my attention. Now, what's he gonna trade to make these "deals" happen?
 
I think he will make one, or more, small trades to acquire future assets and keep/improve our cap flexibility. Trades similar, in principal, to the Jefferies and Pavlovic deals - as a facilitator to help other teams get a deal done that lands us future draft picks maybe a little more cap space.

I don't think there is any way he trades Hickson, but not necessarily for lack of trying.

Hickson wants to take full advantage of free agency and get a big contract. He has the right to veto any trade, and I think he'd do exactly that. He's in a great situation right now. He's starting and averaging a double-double. if his goal is a big contract, why would he want to go to a contender where he'd be a back-up getting 10 - 12 minutes a night? I just don't see any possible trade scenario that would benefit the Blazers, their trading partner and Hickson. The Blazers will do exactly what they did last summer, they will renounce Hickson, make a serious run at someone better, and if that falls through see if they can get Hickson on a cheap contract.

If not, they let him walk - and since they gain cap space, it's not really letting him go for nothing. We may not be able to land a big time free agent, but worst case, I think we'll be able to get two very solid, mid-career veterans with our cap space. One of them may be Hickson, or maybe not. It will be interesting to see how Olshey uses that cap space he is so intent on preserving.

BNM
 
Nikolokolus said:
He's the throw-in.
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He was being funny. Read it again, how it bounces off the quote he gives.

Denny has announced I'm the board comedy cop. I enforce people's attempts at being funny.
 
Considering we have very little in the way of pieces to be traded, I don't think anything will happen.
 
Boob-No-More said:
I don't think there is any way he trades Hickson, but not necessarily for lack of trying.

Hickson wants to take full advantage of free agency and get a big contract. He has the right to veto any trade, and I think he'd do exactly that. He's in a great situation right now. He's starting and averaging a double-double. if his goal is a big contract, why would he want to go to a contender where he'd be a back-up getting 10 - 12 minutes a night? I just don't see any possible trade scenario that would benefit the Blazers, their trading partner and Hickson. The Blazers will do exactly what they did last summer, they will renounce Hickson, make a serious run at someone better, and if that falls through see if they can get Hickson on a cheap contract.
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You are probably right. But your scenario does point to one reason Hickson agrees to a trade. He got nowhere last year in free agency and re-signed here. Maybe if there's a willing trade suitor out there he'd be willing to take the bird in the hand right now rather than risk having the same thing happen to him again this summer. I'm sure his agent will want him to hold tight and wait for the bigger contract, but if I'm Hickson I might go off emotion and say, "Hey, I've been busting my tail and there are no guarantees. I could get injured. The Blazers could go into tank mode and bench me for the rest of the year. I might not look so shiny this summer compared to what else is out there. I'll take the sure $7 mil now and play on a relevant team rather than risk waiting for more later."
 
mook said:
You are probably right. But your scenario does point to one reason Hickson agrees to a trade. He got nowhere last year in free agency and re-signed here. Maybe if there's a willing trade suitor out there he'd be willing to take the bird in the hand right now rather than risk having the same thing happen to him again this summer. I'm sure his agent will want him to hold tight and wait for the bigger contract, but if I'm Hickson I might go off emotion and say, "Hey, I've been busting my tail and there are no guarantees. I could get injured. The Blazers could go into tank mode and bench me for the rest of the year. I might not look so shiny this summer compared to what else is out there. I'll take the sure $7 mil now and play on a relevant team rather than risk waiting for more later."
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I think teams would have been wary of signing Hickson last summer after he was cut from Sac for nothign. I think if he continues to average almost a double/double for the entire season, he'll see much more interest this summer.
 
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