OT Will Portland Become A War Zone This Weekend?

[barfo]

Except that story is from AFTER he got ‘busted up’. I think your theory violates some fundamental law of the time-space continuum. It also negates the excuse you made for Antifa assaulting a person unprovoked.

Well, the story is from after, but the event the story was about was before.

And in any case, it's not like Ngo was unknown to antifa until they attacked him in June.

And I'll also note that Propagandist said "things like this" not "this thing" were why he got beaten.

barfo

 

[The Professional Fan]

MAGA bro

 

[barfo]

MAGA bro

Must be weird to be desperate to find someone to punch you. I've definitely never experienced that feeling.

barfo

 

[Propagandist]

Except that story is from AFTER he got ‘busted up’. I think your theory violates some fundamental law of the time-space continuum. It also negates the excuse you made for Antifa assaulting a person unprovoked.

Read. More. Carefully.

 

[jonnyboy]

Read. More. Carefully.

Don’t. Assault. People.

 

[jonnyboy]

Well, the story is from after, but the event the story was about was before.

And in any case, it's not like Ngo was unknown to antifa until they attacked him in June.

And I'll also note that Propagandist said "things like this" not "this thing" were why he got beaten.

barfo

Oh, well shit. Punch away then.

 

[Propagandist]

Don’t. Assault. People.

Don't. Align. With. Fascists. Fucks.

 

[Hoopguru]

Ill be hones,t I hate both sides. These two tribes are hell bent on anarchy and I oppose it.
The both act like freaking fascists to me, marching to the beat of violence, identity politics segregation and hate.
They need to be cleaned up one way or the other. Im game

 

[Hobbesarable]

Ill be hones,t I hate both sides. These two tribes are hell bent on anarchy and I oppose it.
The both act like freaking fascists to me, marching to the beat of violence, identity politics segregation and hate.
They need to be cleaned up one way or the other. Im game

I experienced something similar in Eugene years ago. Violence with violence. Messages on both sides have no meaning after that.

 

[barfo]

Ill be hones,t I hate both sides. These two tribes are hell bent on anarchy and I oppose it.
The both act like freaking fascists to me, marching to the beat of violence, identity politics segregation and hate.
They need to be cleaned up one way or the other. Im game

Hater. It's this intolerance of the other side that is ripping the country apart. Violent people and non-violent people like you need to learn to get along with each other and meet each other halfway - halfway up Mt Tabor.

barfo

 

[riverman]

Must be weird to be desperate to find someone to punch you. I've definitely never experienced that feeling.

barfo

That's because nobody talks about fight club!

 

[Hoopguru]

Hater. It's this intolerance of the other side that is ripping the country apart. Violent people and non-violent people like you need to learn to get along with each other and meet each other halfway - halfway up Mt Tabor.

barfo

That fair.
I do agree with you that people need to get along, Ive been stating that here for some time. But these two groups REFUSE to compromise on anything, or at least demonstrate a little respect.

Neither one of these sides tolerate anything that not's within their doctrine. And i really don't have that big of issue with that in itself, but the media and everyone make such a big deal out of it neither side is willing to give in at all.

 

[H.C.]

When an umpire can't tell which came first, the ball or the runner because it's too close to call I've only seen umpires rule in favor of the runner. Perhaps it's an unwritten rule. How would you rule if you just couldn't tell?

You might believe it's ruling in favor of the runner but it's not. I've seen officials do it, and in the leagues I umpire/ref in those officials get more training because it shouldn't be happening as it's not in the rule book.
However an umpire in proper position in a 2/3 man system shouldn't ever be questioned as they have the best position to make the call.
No unwritten rule. Theres no 'if you can't tell'. You're either right or wrong and must own your call. If you're adamant about the call & in position 99% of the time no one will question you.
Will say though more often I'm right because I'm in the proper position to make the call. And the fan/parent sitting in the bleachers yelling at me... to quote LaVar Ball. That person needs to stay in their lane... Or put on the gear.

If you don’t think umpires can’t tell sometimes what got there first- ball or runner- so they just make it up you’re crazy. And many of them use tie goes to runner.

Umpires make mistakes, but any experienced umpire will never use 'tie goes to runner'.
They will own their call right or wrong. If proven wrong by instant replay they will still own their call.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ement-mlb-umpires-call-995-of-plays-correctly

Plate umpires job's are far more difficult and easier to trick. Simply comes with the position.
Which is proven by the article ESPN released.

 

[Lanny]

You might believe it's ruling in favor of the runner but it's not. I've seen officials do it, and in the leagues I umpire/ref in those officials get more training because it shouldn't be happening as it's not in the rule book.
However an umpire in proper position in a 2/3 man system shouldn't ever be questioned as they have the best position to make the call.
No unwritten rule. Theres no 'if you can't tell'. You're either right or wrong and must own your call. If you're adamant about the call & in position 99% of the time no one will question you.
Will say though more often I'm right because I'm in the proper position to make the call. And the fan/parent sitting in the bleachers yelling at me... to quote LaVar Ball. That person needs to stay in their lane... Or put on the gear.




Umpires make mistakes, but any experienced umpire will never use 'tie goes to runner'.
They will own their call right or wrong. If proven wrong by instant replay they will still own their call.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ement-mlb-umpires-call-995-of-plays-correctly

Plate umpires job's are far more difficult and easier to trick. Simply comes with the position.
Which is proven by the article ESPN released.

I never said there was such a rule. However, what does an umpire say when he has the best view and he still can't tell which came first the ball or the runner? Is there a rule regarding that?

 

[Propagandist]

Check it out... This is the story of that "journalist" that was punched by Antifa by my man Robert Evans on my favorite podcast, Behind the Bastards: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000448673442

 

[Chris Craig]

“ Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare – Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there's hate, where there's prejudice, where there's bigotry. He's alive. He's alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He's alive because through these things we keep him alive. ”

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

“ Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare – Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there's hate, where there's prejudice, where there's bigotry. He's alive. He's alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He's alive because through these things we keep him alive. ”

This is why I dont hate Trump, or any of these guys. I think they’re fools at times, but I wont let myself get dragged into hate.

 

[riverman]

This is why I dont hate Trump, or any of these guys. I think they’re fools at times, but I wont let myself get dragged into hate.

Hate is the wrong word....disgust works better for me...nobody dragged me into being disgusted by Trump....I've always found him to be shallow and disgusting. Good luck with the inner Gandhi approach. Trump campaigned by throwing stones at people..(he refuses to work across the aisle and sows media hate).....some folks will pick them up and throw them back. Life is a reflection and Trump is in front of his giant golden mirror. We end up with #alternative facts...#fakenews...on and on and don't fool yourself....Trump planted this divisive culture. It's his only real means of survival....there's a big lesson to be learned from this term.

 

[H.C.]

I never said there was such a rule. However, what does an umpire say when he has the best view and he still can't tell which came first the ball or the runner? Is there a rule regarding that?

Human error is part of all aspects of life.
Don't like it get rid of humans.
Also I answered your question in the post. Seems to me you just don't like the answer.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Hate is the wrong word....disgust works better for me...nobody dragged me into being disgusted by Trump....I've always found him to be shallow and disgusting. Good luck with the inner Gandhi approach. Trump campaigned by throwing stones at people..(he refuses to work across the aisle and sows media hate).....some folks will pick them up and throw them back. Life is a reflection and Trump is in front of his giant golden mirror.

I can dislike someone, I can think they're "bad" people, I can oppose their values or those they espouse without hating them. There are multiple members of this forum who have said they hate Trump and his supporters and that's fine, that's their prerogative but that is not how I'm choosing to live my life. I don't think hate can overcome hate, I believe it just creates more hate.
Yes, I'm no fan of Trump, but do I hate him? No.
Not sure if the comment about my inner Gandhi is supposed to be snide or not, but either way, I am at peace with who I am and how I react to people, though of course once in a while I find myself in a spot that needs correction.

 

[riverman]

I can dislike someone, I can think they're "bad" people, I can oppose their values or those they espouse without hating them. There are multiple members of this forum who have said they hate Trump and his supporters and that's fine, that's their prerogative but that is not how I'm choosing to live my life. I don't think hate can overcome hate, I believe it just creates more hate.
Yes, I'm no fan of Trump, but do I hate him? No.
Not sure if the comment about my inner Gandhi is supposed to be snide or not, but either way, I am at peace with who I am and how I react to people, though of course once in a while I find myself in a spot that needs correction.

Read the first sentence of my post.....yes...the Gandhi reference was sarcasm....it's an intellectual ideal that people aren't emotionally usually capable of living. I'm sure not...but I'm disgusted by Trump....distrustful of Trump and want him out of govt.....call it what you want....in the case of Trump I'm not ever going to practice objectivity....his flaws are too demonstrable for me to straddle the fence. I don't make him important enough to be hateful or emo about him...I look at him like he's an unruly child and think he needs to grow up.

 

[Lanny]

Check it out... This is the story of that "journalist" that was punched by Antifa by my man Robert Evans on my favorite podcast, Behind the Bastards: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000448673442

How about a synopsis?

 

[Lanny]

Hate is the wrong word....disgust works better for me...nobody dragged me into being disgusted by Trump....I've always found him to be shallow and disgusting. Good luck with the inner Gandhi approach. Trump campaigned by throwing stones at people..(he refuses to work across the aisle and sows media hate).....some folks will pick them up and throw them back. Life is a reflection and Trump is in front of his giant golden mirror. We end up with #alternative facts...#fakenews...on and on and don't fool yourself....Trump planted this divisive culture. It's his only real means of survival....there's a big lesson to be learned from this term.

No, I think hate works pretty well for me. I see it as going on beyond simple disgust. I hate what he's trying to do to our country.

 

[Lanny]

I can dislike someone, I can think they're "bad" people, I can oppose their values or those they espouse without hating them. There are multiple members of this forum who have said they hate Trump and his supporters and that's fine, that's their prerogative but that is not how I'm choosing to live my life. I don't think hate can overcome hate, I believe it just creates more hate.
Yes, I'm no fan of Trump, but do I hate him? No.
Not sure if the comment about my inner Gandhi is supposed to be snide or not, but either way, I am at peace with who I am and how I react to people, though of course once in a while I find myself in a spot that needs correction.

I've got a hate for Hitler and Stalin and now I've got a hate for that devious little shit, Trump.

 

[Lanny]

Read the first sentence of my post.....yes...the Gandhi reference was sarcasm....it's an intellectual ideal that people aren't emotionally usually capable of living. I'm sure not...but I'm disgusted by Trump....distrustful of Trump and want him out of govt.....call it what you want....in the case of Trump I'm not ever going to practice objectivity....his flaws are too demonstrable for me to straddle the fence. I don't make him important enough to be hateful or emo about him...I look at him like he's an unruly child and think he needs to grow up.

Sitting on the fence at this time is no place for decent folk to be.

 

[riverman]

No, I think hate works pretty well for me. I see it as going on beyond simple disgust. I hate what he's trying to do to our country.

I don't have a problem with the language...if he succeeded at doing what he's trying to do to our country, then I might get there...as it is I have a very, very low opinion of him...no question there.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I've got a hate for Hitler and Stalin and now I've got a hate for that devious little shit, Trump.

I don't. Doesn't mean I approve of their actions or Trumps, just don't hate anyone. Even those who have very directly hurt me and my family and others I love, just don't have it in me to hate people. Even if I have a very, low opinion of them.

 

[Lanny]

I don't. Doesn't mean I approve of their actions or Trumps, just don't hate anyone. Even those who have very directly hurt me and my family and others I love, just don't have it in me to hate people. Even if I have a very, low opinion of them.

Sometimes, I wish I was more like that. Perhaps I'd be a better Christian.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Sometimes, I wish I was more like that. Perhaps I'd be a better Christian.

I see it like this. There are many people who I strongly disagree with in terms of the way they approach life, their world views, the things they do, the things they espouse, the hate that they rile up. I'd say, Trump, is one of those people. However, I have a choice I can fuel division and hate or I can fuel compassion and love. Trump much like everyone will get his due (at least in the way I see things). I don't want him in our government sure! I wish he wasn't the one in charge of the country, I wish we could take back the joke that was 2016. However, I firmly believe that I should treat everyone the way I want to be treated, not just the people I agree with, not just the people I like. It goes from the least of these to the greatest of these so to speak. I'm in no way, whatsoever excusing Trump's actions, or Hitlers, or Mao's, or Stalin, or anyone's. It's just the outlook on life I've chosen.

I absolutely understand that it doesn't work for everyone, that others have their own perspectives and I'll respect it. I'm not asking anyone to take my point of view, or preaching on the forum that others should be "like me". I could have life completely wrong, and if I do I would greatly appreciate it if people treated me well regardless, I can't control others though and I have no desire too.

Maybe it's a matter of semantics, what is hate, theres many definitions I suppose.

 

[MarAzul]

his flaws are too demonstrable for me to straddle the fence

Yes river, we know. You can't live with the results of losing. I pity your condition. But I suggest you try and recognize the need.