Would you do this trade?

[Crimson the Cat]

Absolutely. Deng is well worth the cost of Rudy and supplanting Batum from the starting unit.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

yes

 

[Further]

I like the deal. THe one big worry I have is 3pt shooting. But with Webs and Batum we should be fine. Especially if LMA, Cunningham, and Roy all have decent 3pt shots, and Bayless does seem to be improving. I do think that this would make Miller a worse fit, but that could always change next season.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If you're really worried about a log jam at the 3 just consider that either Nic or Martell have the defensive chops to play some backup shooting guard behind Brandon, and what it does most of all in my opinion is give this team some real versatility on the wing defensively and the ability to play "small" without being tiny and finally gives this team a pretty well defined 8-9 man rotation, with our 3 second round picks kept around for some emergency depth.

(Bold=major rotation player)
Miller/Bayless/Mills
Roy/Martell
Deng/Nic
LMA/Deng/Cunningham
Oden/Joel/Pendergraph

I think this right here is the key to this deal. In theory, while Nic, Martell, and Deng are all 3s, they could all also be on the court at the same time. Think of the improvement in perimeter defense with Deng added to the defense. In fact, in the 9-man rotation listed above, Roy and Miller are the only players who are not considered at least average defenders (Well, I guess Bayless by some), and Roy is capable of playing excellent defense when he chooses to.

I'd be all in favor of this move.

 

[tlongII]

No way. Provided Rudy is healthy. Rudy is a clutch player and you just don't find many of those guys in the league. Deng is overrated.

 

[Nikolokolus]

No way. Provided Rudy is healthy. Rudy is a clutch player and you just don't find many of those guys in the league. Deng is overrated.

Here are Rudy's "clutch time" statistics:
http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR4.HTM#clutch
40% on field goals, offensive rating of 75 points per 100 possessions, defensive rating of 108 points given up per 100 possessions, no fouls drawn, a piss poor hands rating of 2.5.

Deng on the other hand has one of the best adjusted plus/minus ratings in the league (take it for what it's worth) rebounds, defends and shoots pretty well, but just not prolifically from the beyond the arc.

Somebody is overrated here, that's for sure.

 

[Kaydow]

Here are Rudy's "clutch time" statistics:
http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR4.HTM#clutch
40% on field goals, offensive rating of 75 points per 100 possessions, defensive rating of 108 points given up per 100 possessions, no fouls drawn, a piss poor hands rating of 2.5.

Deng on the other hand has one of the best adjusted plus/minus ratings in the league (take it for what it's worth) rebounds, defends and shoots pretty well, but just not prolifically from the beyond the arc.

Somebody is overrated here, that's for sure.

Agreed. But what about the litany of injuries Deng has had since he's been in the league? Doesn't that scare you?

 

[Trader Ed]

I'd do the trade since Deng is putting up nice stats and could really hurt opposing teams that chose to aggressively double team Roy.

+1

make it so.... that is a no brainer

then what do you do with Martell and Batum?

 

[STOMP]

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Here are Rudy's "clutch time" statistics:
http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR4.HTM#clutch
40% on field goals, offensive rating of 75 points per 100 possessions, defensive rating of 108 points given up per 100 possessions, no fouls drawn, a piss poor hands rating of 2.5.

Deng on the other hand has one of the best adjusted plus/minus ratings in the league (take it for what it's worth) rebounds, defends and shoots pretty well, but just not prolifically from the beyond the arc.

Somebody is overrated here, that's for sure.

Rudy's 2009-10 stats don't mean much as he was clearly injured and trying to play through it. I'd expect any player who ended up needing back surgery would see their stats suffer.

STOMP