Would you give up Batum for an extented Nash?

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If you knew Nash would extend here would you give up Batum to get him? It was a discussion at the awesome Wheel's/Vance meet and greet tonight, thanks to ABM by the way.

Wheels said he would. Personally, his ability to match up with Durant would be too greatly missed IMO. What's the chance we could land Nash in the free agent market during the summer?
 
It's time to get younger not ancient. And frankly, Nash is going to want to play for a contender (and should) as his swan song. Portland even with him added isn't good enough to qualify.
 
get younger so we can bake another lousy cake!? I'm with wheels on this one.
 
I would do that deal in a heartbeat. It's like giving up Al Jefferson for Kevin Garnett. It gets you a title. Nash/Matthews/Crash/LMA/Camby contends. Why the obsession, Nate? He's only the best PG in the league still. And he can shoot. He would be a MONUMENTAL upgrade from Felton that would COMPLETELY change the whole makeup of our team. We could win it all with Nash. We have the big man, maybe the best big man, Nash needs to make one more run.
 
I LOVE Batum but i'd give him up for Nash. Its a hard move to make but Nash makes everyone better and most of this teams problems go away with him on our team.
 
Rhal said:
I LOVE Batum but i'd give him up for Nash. Its a hard move to make but Nash makes everyone better and most of this teams problems go away with him on our team.
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Well said.
 
Would you give up Jermaine O'Neal for Dale Davis?

Batum is already more proven than Jermaine was at this time, and Nash is older than Davis was when we traded for him, and unlike that Portland team, this one is nowhere near title contention. Some of you want to mortgage our future just to get into the playoffs? I think some of you must work for the Vulcan's or something
 
Mediocre Man said:
Would you give up Jermaine O'Neal for Dale Davis?

Batum is already more proven than Jermaine was at this time, and Nash is older than Davis was when we traded for him, and unlike that Portland team, this one is nowhere near title contention. Some of you want to mortgage our future just to get into the playoffs? I think some of you must work for the Vulcan's or something
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Little difference between the two. We had some good bigs on that team already and Davis was a good backup not a HoF still playing like there in their prime. We give up on our second best player to try and make a contention for a title not for the playoffs. This team as much as it sucks will get into the playoffs without another move. Nash is the trade you make if you want to try and win a title much like trading for Pippen was. Our future is pretty bleak to begin with, with no prospects at the PG being shopped and no ground breaking PG prospects in this draft there isn't an upgrade in site. Trading for Nash fix's a lot of problems we have and gives LA an actual master of the pick and roll who will make LA a lot better.
We give up talent for the future, but we won't be contending anytime soon (unless we could talk Dwill into coming here in the summer... yea thought not on that) and this may not make us a contender but it is our best bet to try and be one for the next few years.
 
Although I'm not sure Nash would be a wise trade, imagine what Steve Nash could do for Nic and LaMarcus.
 
No. I'd trade anyone except Batum and Aldridge though. So basically I'd trade scraps for their best player. Typical Blazer fan.
 
Rhal said:
I LOVE Batum but i'd give him up for Nash. Its a hard move to make but Nash makes everyone better and most of this teams problems go away with him on our team.
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For maybe another year maximum ... then it's right back to the drawing board.
 
KingSpeed said:
I would do that deal in a heartbeat. It's like giving up Al Jefferson for Kevin Garnett. It gets you a title. Nash/Matthews/Crash/LMA/Camby contends. Why the obsession, Nate? He's only the best PG in the league still. And he can shoot. He would be a MONUMENTAL upgrade from Felton that would COMPLETELY change the whole makeup of our team. We could win it all with Nash. We have the big man, maybe the best big man, Nash needs to make one more run.
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I agree Nash would be an upgrade, but if he couldn't get Phoenix to a title game with Amare, Grant Hill, Shaq, Matrix, Barbosa, etc. etc. How is he going to get one with just one other very good player?

SMH I can't believe people still think we're just a player away.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I agree Nash would be an upgrade, but if he couldn't get Phoenix to a title game with Amare, Grant Hill, Shaq, Matrix, Barbosa, etc. etc. How is he going to get one with just one other very good player?

SMH I can't believe people still think we're just a player away.
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part of why he didn't with that team is that Shaq was an absolute pile of shit by that time and of those players listed, only Grant Hill played some form of defense.

Plus, Marion was traded FOR Shaq.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Would you give up Jermaine O'Neal for Dale Davis?

Batum is already more proven than Jermaine was at this time, and Nash is older than Davis was when we traded for him, and unlike that Portland team, this one is nowhere near title contention. Some of you want to mortgage our future just to get into the playoffs? I think some of you must work for the Vulcan's or something
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Davis was a marginal All Star. Nash is a two time MVP who is currently leading the league in assists. Big difference.
 
KingSpeed said:
Davis was a marginal All Star. Nash is a two time MVP who is currently leading the league in assists. Big difference.
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Lol yeah you tell em Kingspeed! People aren't realizing that Nash is still giving you a 24 per. Those are allstar stats! Also dale Davis wasn't a leader. He was a role player. Nash is a proven leader and MVP. They are much different.
 
julius said:
part of why he didn't with that team is that Shaq was an absolute pile of shit by that time and of those players listed, only Grant Hill played some form of defense.

Plus, Marion was traded FOR Shaq.
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I probably worded my post poorly. I didn't mean that he had all of those guys on his team at the same time, but there have been multiple iterations of the Suns with good players that were never able to get over the hump and a lot of those teams were deep with talent.
 
Rhal said:
I LOVE Batum but i'd give him up for Nash. Its a hard move to make but Nash makes everyone better and most of this teams problems go away with him on our team.
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So, you're saying if we trade for Nash, Crawford and McMillan will leave town? Sweet! Addition by addition and subtraction! ;)
 
julius said:
Although I'm not sure Nash would be a wise trade, imagine what Steve Nash could do for Nic and LaMarcus.
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If a trade doesn't improve the team and/or the team's future, then why do it? If we have to give up Batum, and all we're left with are LaMarcus, 'Steve Nash and the Geriatric Band', and our existing refuse, what's the point? Now, Nash plus Aldridge plus Nico, plus our scraps, I'd be all over that. But seriously, without including Nico, I doubt we have what they want for the face of their franchise.
 
magnifier661 said:
Lol yeah you tell em Kingspeed! People aren't realizing that Nash is still giving you a 24 per. Those are allstar stats! Also dale Davis wasn't a leader. He was a role player. Nash is a proven leader and MVP. They are much different.
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Nash isn't going to be in the league in 3 years. He couldn't even MAKE the finals with a healthy Amare and a bunch of other good pieces. What makes you think we can win it all with Nash and an even less talented supporting cast?
 
B-Roy said:
Nash isn't going to be in the league in 3 years. He couldn't even MAKE the finals with a healthy Amare and a bunch of other good pieces. What makes you think we can win it all with Nash and an even less talented supporting cast?
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You just need to believe "harderer"
 
No. Old people aren't the answer to the Blazers problems, and Nate will just slow him down anyway.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't get the obsession with Nash. I really don't.
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Seriously. This team is a lot closer to where PHX is now than any uprising contender. We have no use for Nash, and we'd be just wasting his skills for a weak first round run at the playoffs. We need a complete franchise overhaul as much as PHX does.
 
KingSpeed said:
I would do that deal in a heartbeat. It's like giving up Al Jefferson for Kevin Garnett. It gets you a title. Nash/Matthews/Crash/LMA/Camby contends. Why the obsession, Nate? He's only the best PG in the league still. And he can shoot. He would be a MONUMENTAL upgrade from Felton that would COMPLETELY change the whole makeup of our team. We could win it all with Nash. We have the big man, maybe the best big man, Nash needs to make one more run.
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Al Jefferson for Kevin Garnett.... except we don't have Ray Allen and Paul Pierce when they were still good.

Best point guard in the league? No. Derrick Rose is the best point guard in the league, followed by Deron Williams, and Chris Paul.

Nash makes us a playoff team, but I highly doubt we even get to the WCF with him. If that guy couldn't get to the finals with Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion (in his prime) and Amare, what makes you think he's going to do it with Wes Mathews, Gerald Wallace, and Aldridge?

Trading Batum for Nash would be one of those "looking back" moments where Blazer fans would groan and curse the name of Chad Buchanan.
 
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