Would you trade BRoy if there were a taker?

[BoomChakaLaka]

I'd like to first state that BRoy ranks among my top five Blazers of all-time. But with his knee problems, would you trade him, simply to berid the team of his crippling contract?


Right now, I would trade BRoy for a team's number one pick and take back expiring contracts (provided they expired at the end of the 2011-2012 season) simply to make cap room for pursuing one of the 2012 free-agents.

I'd use the number one pick on the best available big (PF or Center) for insurance in case Oden never does pan out.

In 2012, I'd go hard for CP3 with the BRoy cap space we'd be freeing up.


What team(s) might gamble on BRoy? Would NJ give up their number one pick to unload other bad contracts? Doubtful. Would a team like Cleveland be interested in doing the same? Maybe! Antawn Jaimison + Pick for Roy?

 

[magnifier661]

It would be foolish for Brass to not trade him and I love Roy. Teams I think that could really use a player like him would #1 be Orlando. Take on their first rounder, Turk and Brass for Roy.

Roy wouldn't have to do as much and he would have some capable scorers on the team to dish out to. Also, frees up Howard too. They have enough capable guards to keep Roy at the 20-25 minute mark. Believe it or not, but if they had Nelson, Roy, Richardson, Bass and Howard; they would be a deadly group.

Could be a great way for them to keep Howard too.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Not to the L*kers.

 

[magnifier661]

Not to the L*kers.

Man that would add insult to injury for me. I could never forgive the organization if they did something like that. I could just see Roy pacing himself all season until he plays us. Dropping 30 in front of all of us fans, wearing the purple and piss! <<Thowing up now>>

 

[Mediocre Man]

It would be foolish not to trade him. In the long run, it would probably help the offense in the playoffs

 

[Draco]

I would trade him along with our first round pick for cap relieft.

 

[STOMP]

the way this draft is rated and where Portland is picking, I could see them selecting a Euro to stash overseas with their 1st just to get out of having another guaranteed deal on the books. Then again they might want such a contract just for facilitating trade possibilities. Regardless, I think posters are placing much more on the value of this year's #1 then they probably should

to the OP.... unless a trading partner is far enough under the cap to absorb a contract you have to get back roughly equal dollars for whatever you're sending out. In the case of Roy, thats a lot of $$$. What are you suggesting Portland is taking back? An expiring? If so, yes please... even to the Lakers

STOMP

 

[RR7]

Nobody right now is going to give us an expiring deal or deals and a #1 pick for brandon, IMO. I think we'd have to take back someone like Arenas, Rashard Lewis, etc.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

I'm suggesting teams with expiring (or very soon to expire) contracts - as with Antawn Jaimison of Cleveland, for example. He'd service the team, but would expire at the end of the 2011/2012 season - opening salary cap for the pursuit of the 2012 free agent sweeps.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Imaginary Cap Space!!!!

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

And I'm leaning toward the one remark that it may pay to trade Roy AND our number one pick in this year's draft, simply to get out of his contract!

I'd like to get something, but that is just homerism speaking.

As a bottom line, we really need to move Roy as the team's priority. And if I were GM, I'd be looking to do something along the lines of trading Roy with Oden - (may need a three-team scenario to pull this off) - to relieve the Blazers from this plague.

If both Roy and whatever we'd pay out to sign Oden were off the books, we could rebuild around Wallace / Batum / Matthews / Aldridge and go find our PG and Center. All other players on the current roster are tradable if a bigger picture (rebuild) can begin.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I would trade him along with our first round pick for cap relieft.

This. The only way you are going to trade him is giving a team something they want and making them swallow Broy's contract.

I think Dallas may bite, they are usually willing to take on big contracts to get what they want.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

No, getting out from under Roy's contract = real cap space!

 

[B-Roy]

This. The only way you are going to trade him is giving a team something they want and making them swallow Broy's contract.

I think Dallas may bite, they are usually willing to take on big contracts to get what they want.

A late first rounder is not going to convince someone to take what's probably one of the worst contracts in the NBA...

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

What might Dallas have (of equal dollars to Roy's contract) that we could take back? Do they have expiring contracts? We don't want to be strapped with junk contacts that won't expire after one year - - otherwise, just gamble by keeping Roy and hope they come up with plastic menisci replacement parts!

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Might even be a worthy investment by PA to fund this research! [plastic menisci parts]

 

[Nikolokolus]

It would be foolish for Brass to not trade him and I love Roy. Teams I think that could really use a player like him would #1 be Orlando. Take on their first rounder, Turk and Brass for Roy.

Roy wouldn't have to do as much and he would have some capable scorers on the team to dish out to. Also, frees up Howard too. They have enough capable guards to keep Roy at the 20-25 minute mark. Believe it or not, but if they had Nelson, Roy, Richardson, Bass and Howard; they would be a deadly group.

Could be a great way for them to keep Howard too.

How does that deal benefit the Magic at all? Hedo has a less horrendous contract, Bass is a pretty good forward and a first round pick is an asset. The Blazers would be robbing them blind.

 

[BBert]

How does that deal benefit the Magic at all? Hedo has a less horrendous contract, Bass is a pretty good forward and a first round pick is an asset. The Blazers would be robbing them blind.

Robbing them blind? In that case, I'm all for it!

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

I don't think its a very good plan. To get to CAP SPACE again - would require not resigning Oden, or Miller, Camby, etc. All to be able to OFFER ONE UFA contract for max $$. When was the last time we attracted great Free Agents??

Wes Matthews, Andre Miller, Brian Grant, Kenny Anderson, Rod Stickland is the list I come up with over the last 20 years. Not a stellar result.

I would be all for attempting to get any value for Roy that would actually contribute more on the court. But, I think we're stuck with whatever we get from him. There is little reason another team would trade for him. Maybe changes in the CBA will create this reason for another team. Amnesty anyone?

 

[Pinwheel1]

No I would not dump him just to get rid of his salary. Especially for the illusion of getting a top free agent. Late first round picks are worthless as well.

I would prefer to wait until I know for sure what the new CBA is. Yes he is making too much for his limited minutes, but I have the 4 QTR of game 4 taped, and he still looks like he is a decent player.

 

[Ed O]

I think there's a chance he comes back... and a slight chance that he comes back in a big way.

I'd rather have him on the team another year than dump him now. Move him either after he shows he can still play... or figure out a way to dump him after he's demonstrated he can't.

Our cap situation is not going to be great whether Roy's around or not, so I think getting more certainty about his future makes sense.

Ed O.

 

[anonymous gambler]

I love BRoy, but would trade him in an instant. He doesn't fit with the rest of our team and they tend to defer to him, though he will never again be consistently an all-star level shooting guard. I would love to get Brand for him or another serviceable big, but doubt we could. It's very likely that he's gone with the new amnesty provision in the next CBA...

 

[STOMP]

What might Dallas have (of equal dollars to Roy's contract) that we could take back? Do they have expiring contracts? We don't want to be strapped with junk contacts that won't expire after one year - - otherwise, just gamble by keeping Roy and hope they come up with plastic menisci replacement parts!

If you're going with the logic that Portland can package a late 1st rounder in a pathetic draft with Roy for an expiring, you might as well hope to get Jason Kidd + Brendan Haywood back to match dollars. I say might as well because both scenarios have about an equal chance of happening.... none.

Brandon isn't going anywhere for at least a couple more seasons unless you're taking back an equally toxic contract

STOMP

 

[LittleAlex]

We better hope for one of two things:

1.) There is a clause in the new CBA that allows a team to have a one time deal where a player's salary no longer counts against the cap.
2.) B-Roy comes back at 85% of what he was two years ago and plays every game next season.


The team will not trade the guy no matter what happens.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'd dump him, but only because of his salary. I just don't think he'll ever be a max contract player again, so we're paying double what the guy is probably worth.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Antawn Jaimison of Cleveland, for example. He'd service the team...

I'm sure they could find someone a lot less expensive to fill that role.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Roy for Ray Allen. Get it done, Cho.

 

[Rhal]

BRoy means to much to this organization to trade him. He helped bring an organization that had one of the worst raps in the NBA to being a model franchise (well a model of how to get knee injuries). I do not know if Cho could convince Paul Allen to trade such an important part of the last few years for scraps. Cho would probably pull the trigger on anything but the real question is if Allen would let him. Like it or not BRoy is the face of the franchise and I think he will be here for a few years just because of what he his presence means to the organization regardless if he has knees or not.
Waiving him if we get an amnesty clause is completely different and I figure we would waive him if we got one.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

BRoy means to much to this organization to trade him. He helped bring an organization that had one of the worst raps in the NBA to being a model franchise (well a model of how to get knee injuries). I do not know if Cho could convince Paul Allen to trade such an important part of the last few years for scraps. Cho would probably pull the trigger on anything but the real question is if Allen would let him. Like it or not BRoy is the face of the franchise and I think he will be here for a few years just because of what he his presence means to the organization regardless if he has knees or not.
Waiving him if we get an amnesty clause is completely different and I figure we would waive him if we got one.

Wait...what? Trading him is no bueno, but cutting him outright is OK? What am I missing here?

 

[Pinwheel1]

We better hope for one of two things:

1.) There is a clause in the new CBA that allows a team to have a one time deal where a player's salary no longer counts against the cap.
2.) B-Roy comes back at 85% of what he was two years ago and plays every game next season.


The team will not trade the guy no matter what happens.

I think there is a chance for both. Maybe not all 82 games for Roy, (That is rare for most) but 85% of what he was. Which still means he can hit a pull up jumper unlike most players.

As for the new CBA I think they almost have to make that rule. If they want to lower the Cap for every team and make it hard for it to escalate, then they have to start with the newer contracts and create grandfather clauses for the old ones. They will have to ease it in or they will not get support from the players or owners who don't want to lose their stars.

Roy's contract is hardly the big issue for the Blazers in the off season.