WOW. Roy's a bitch?

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Blaze01 said:
Well he has played center before....

Your point though? I mean perish the thought of keeping Roy at SG and moving Blake to the bench.....
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Magic was the PG, the playmaker, that's what made him the superstar. So instead of getting James Worthy, you grab Stockton so Magic can play "off the ball" and post up and cut to the basket. And Magic played center for a "play-off" not a full season. Thanks for playing though.
 
andalusian said:
Miller makes Aldridge better? LMA's PER is the lowest of his career so far (yes, lower than his rookie year). How, exactly, does he make Aldridge better?

Greg Oden's PER is higher - but in 36 mpg - he gets only 1 more FGA than last year. I would argue that Greg Oden's PER is higher because he turns the ball less and he worked on his body this year.

Andre Miller's big impact on our bigs, so far, is pretty much a myth...
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If you watch the games you can tell how much better he Makes the big men...

and dont bring up PER please. Because you are the one that harps on the Blazers should be playing Blake more with his < 10 PER
 
B-Roy said:
Based on what. Your assumptions?
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This team is going to go off my pulse,” Roy said. “Even if I’m smiling and trying to make it work, if I seem like I’m not totally comfortable, then Martell won’t be. And Rudy (Fernandez) will look like he’s in a funk. And L.A. (Aldridge) will look like he’s in a funk. They have been playing with me for a couple years and if I’m going well, they have more confidence.
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Obviously the team does not function without him....
 
magnifier661 said:
You are 100% missing the point. You are thinking I said the "Turn around" has anything to do with wins when I said "Laughing stock of the NBA" to a team that everyone wants to watch. Zach and Co, or even the jail-blazers before that were hard to watch. Then Roy comes in and is all class, all about the culture and represents himself well in front of the media. We were the laughing stock because of our demeanor as a unit in whole. A bunch of "bad characters" that cared only about themselves. Then this player comes in and is far from that. And if you think this latest Quote from Roy says otherwise, then we can agree to just disagree.
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Okay, so you aren't talking about victories then? Why don't we just start drafting Ivy League graduates who speak 5 languages? They'd be great with the media.


Outlaw, Webster, Przybilla, Blake, and Jack all preceded Roy and are all just as classy. Same thing can be said about Aldridge, Rudy, Batum, Oden. Why are you giving Roy ALL the credit for the makeover of the franchise? Yes, he's the face. But he's nothing without his teammates. He's a first round loser at best right now, so why the cumstains all over his pictures?
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Obviously the team does not function without him....
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Is he wrong? Every star (Kobe, LeBron) thinks the same thing. They have to have a certain ego to achieve that star status. Doesn't mean they care about their individual stats more than team success.
 
Pontius said:
Okay, so you aren't talking about victories then? Why don't we just start drafting Ivy League graduates who speak 5 languages? They'd be great with the media.


Outlaw, Webster, Przybilla, Blake, and Jack all preceded Roy and are all just as classy. Same thing can be said about Aldridge, Rudy, Batum, Oden. Why are you giving Roy ALL the credit for the makeover of the franchise? Yes, he's the face. But he's nothing without his teammates. He's a first round loser at best right now, so why the cumstains all over his pictures?
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Nice dodge. Fact is Roy is our best player, made the all-stars two year in a row, rookie of the year. Ivy league graduates won't cut it, since they aren't the best players in the game. I rate Roy as one of the top 10 players currently (could be argued). So your "sarcasm" was weak. Nice try though.
 
B-Roy said:
Is he wrong? Every star (Kobe, LeBron) thinks the same thing. They have to have a certain ego to achieve that star status. Doesn't mean they care about their individual stats more than team success.
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Like i said before, Kobe without another star on his team never made it passed the first round.

Same with Wade, Same with Jordan
 
Pontius said:
Okay, so you aren't talking about victories then? Why don't we just start drafting Ivy League graduates who speak 5 languages? They'd be great with the media.


Outlaw, Webster, Przybilla, Blake, and Jack all preceded Roy and are all just as classy. Same thing can be said about Aldridge, Rudy, Batum, Oden. Why are you giving Roy ALL the credit for the makeover of the franchise? Yes, he's the face. But he's nothing without his teammates. He's a first round loser at best right now, so why the cumstains all over his pictures?
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Oh and read the title of this thread. This was because some poster called him a bitch. So that was in response to people putting all the blame on Roy. :D
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
If you watch the games you can tell how much better he Makes the big men...

and dont bring up PER please. Because you are the one that harps on the Blazers should be playing Blake more with his < 10 PER
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If the goal is to make our bigs better, Miller has not done the job.
If the goal is to make Roy better, Miller has not done the job.
If the goal is to make the PG better (offensively, at least) - we should play Miller more.

Again, who are the stars and who are the role players on this team, remind me?
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Like i said before, Kobe without another star on his team never made it passed the first round.

Same with Wade, Same with Jordan
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Ok, what's your point? Roy's got budding stars in Aldridge and Oden right next to him.
 
andalusian said:
If the goal is to make our bigs better, Miller has not done the job.
If the goal is to make Roy better, Miller has not done the job.
If the goal is to make the PG better (offensively, at least) - we should play Miller more.

Again, who are the stars and who are the role players on this team, remind me?
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Honestly, you are making so much sense and maybe my "meltdown" is effecting my reasoning. I just was seriously offended with someone calling Roy a bitch. It really rubbed me wrong. Thanks for coming up with good arguments.
 
B-Roy said:
Ok, what's your point? Roy's got budding stars in Aldridge and Oden right next to him.
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And if Oden does become an allstar (which i think he will) it will be because of his defense, IE Ben Wallace, and he will NEVER be the offensive force that a Shaq is
 
I think some of you need to take a nice long break. Take a step back, take a deep breath, and move away from the keyboard. Start a new hobbie. You're too close, too fanatical, that you're going to continue missing all the good things that the Blazers have going for them. Roy says a sentence and suddenly all the good will he's built up over three years is gone. That's lunacy, and I seriously question the mental health of 50-68% of this board. Because this is just stupid. It's not even funny in a sick, twisted way anymore.

I mean, I'm a Blazer fan, and outside of the unfortunate injuries, I'm happy with where they are. Then I come here and the first thread I see calls Roy a bitch. Awesome. Great fans Portland. Way to keep things in PERSPECTIVE.


Just take a break, you'll thank me later.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
How do you know? Im not so sure LMA or Oden will ever be All-stars.....
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I don't see how this has any relevance? So you think Aldridge and Oden will only become decent players? Ok? So what? We need another star? It's certainly not Miller, who hasn't been an all-star in 10 years.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
How do you know? Im not so sure LMA or Oden will ever be All-stars.....
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Well it's always good to go with hind-sight. That sets apart the wanna-be gms to the good gms. Did Chicago know Pippen was going to be a superstar? Hell wasn't he like picked mid-late draft?
 
B-Roy said:
I don't see how this has any relevance? So you think Aldridge and Oden will only become decent players? Ok? So what? We need another star? It's certainly not Miller, who hasn't been an all-star in 10 years.
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I totally Agree. However, Miller has shown in the passed, and just by watching the 15 games played, that he can certainly raise the Big mens potential unlike Blake
 
magnifier661 said:
Well it's always good to go with hind-sight. That sets apart the wanna-be gms to the good gms. Did Chicago know Pippen was going to be a superstar? Hell wasn't he like picked mid-late draft?
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Yea, But there is a sort of IT factor, and IMHO i dont think LMA has it.

I think Batum has it. I think Batum has a way better chance than LMA to make an all star game (call me crazy)
 
And Magic played center for a "play-off" not a full season. Thanks for playing though.
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I thought you would get the joke...apparently I was wrong

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and again, I point out to you that it doesn't have to be Roy who plays out of position, not if Nate had made the move he should have made FROM THE VERY BEGINNING....Blake to the bench.
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
I totally Agree. However, Miller has shown in the passed, and just by watching the 15 games played, that he can certainly raise the Big mens potential unlike Blake
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How? He certainly hasn't made Aldridge any better, and Oden's improvements have mostly come from within. Blake has also been the one getting the ball to Oden the most, not Miller.
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
I think some of you need to take a nice long break. Take a step back, take a deep breath, and move away from the keyboard. Start a new hobbie. You're too close, too fanatical, that you're going to continue missing all the good things that the Blazers have going for them. Roy says a sentence and suddenly all the good will he's built up over three years is gone. That's lunacy, and I seriously question the mental health of 50-68% of this board. Because this is just stupid. It's not even funny in a sick, twisted way anymore.

I mean, I'm a Blazer fan, and outside of the unfortunate injuries, I'm happy with where they are. Then I come here and the first thread I see calls Roy a bitch. Awesome. Great fans Portland. Way to keep things in PERSPECTIVE.


Just take a break, you'll thank me later.
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Hahahahah just read it brother and it's sound advice. I did take a break for the entire last season. What set me off was someone calling Roy a bitch. I will blow up today, but normally I'm not this "out of control". Or am I? HAHAHAHHA
 
Blaze01 said:
I thought you would get the joke...apparently I was wrong

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and again, I point out to you that it doesn't have to be Roy who plays out of position, not if Nate had made the move he should have made FROM THE VERY BEGINNING....Blake to the bench.
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But roy wouldnt be "comfortable" without Blake :sigh:
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
Yea, But there is a sort of IT factor, and IMHO i dont think LMA has it.

I think Batum has it. I think Batum has a way better chance than LMA to make an all star game (call me crazy)
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I don't think LMA has it either. I think Oden does though. There are times when he is on the floor, that he completely takes over the game and set's an impressive tone.
 
B-Roy said:
How? He certainly hasn't made Aldridge any better, and Oden's improvements have mostly come from within. Blake has also been the one getting the ball to Oden the most, not Miller.
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Are you serious? Because their PER's are not better or why do you feel this way?

If you WATCH the games, you can tell that Miller knows how to get everyone involved and CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A FRIKEN ENTRY PASS!!! unlike others on the team.

Plus i think its to early to tell how much he can really help, but i guess he might never get the chance... too bad
 
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