Wow! Zbo

[GrandpaBlaze]

6:49 left in the Denver-Memphis game and Zbo has 24 pts, 21 rebounds (6 offensive), 3 assists and 1 steal.

Gramps...

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Final Line:

32 points
24 rebounds (9 offensive)
3 assists
1 steal
1 blocked shot

No matter how you slice it, that is an impressive outing.

Gramps...

 

[MARIS61]

Why don't we ever have guys like that...oh, wait....never mind.

 

[maxiep]

Final Line:

32 points
24 rebounds (9 offensive)
3 assists
1 steal
1 blocked shot

No matter how you slice it, that is an impressive outing.

Gramps...

Zach's problem has never been filling the stat sheet. He's one of the most talented low post players in the league.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Zach's problem has never been filling the stat sheet. He's one of the most talented low post players in the league.

Yup. His problem is that he's never been on a good team.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Memphis won that game BTW.

 

[SnakeOiler]

Yup. His problem is that he's never been on a good team.

Or...He is the reason his teams suck.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Or...He is the reason his teams suck.

nope.

 

[SnakeOiler]

nope.

Yep, every team he's been on sucked. Some didn't before he arrived.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Yep, every team he's been on sucked. Some didn't before he arrived.

which ones?

Memphis?

Knicks?

Clippers?

or the Blown-up "Jailblazers"?

 

[SnakeOiler]

which ones?

Memphis?

Knicks?

Clippers?

or the Blown-up "Jailblazers"?

Blazers and Clippers and maybe the knicks. They did not get better we he showed up. He sucks.

 

[illmatic99]

Amazing.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=czpWI

 

[Buzz Killington]

Blazers and Clippers and maybe the knicks. They did not get better we he showed up. He sucks.

okay dokay.

 

[illmatic99]

Blazers and Clippers and maybe the knicks. They did not get better we he showed up. He sucks.

Look out.

Your bias is showing.

 

[J_Ray]

Can you say 3rd scorer?

 

[Wheels]

nope.

part of it was because he was a black hole and the focal point of bad teams. Not a #1 on a good team but for sure a great #2 on a good team is what he would/should be.

 

[Buzz Killington]

part of it was because he was a black hole and the focal point of bad teams. Not a #1 on a good team but for sure a great #2 on a good team is what he would/should be.

Those teams didn't have any other options for the most part. He was a black hole because he simply needed to be one. No one else on those teams could really put up points. Hence, they were terrible TEAMs.

 

[Wheels]

Those teams didn't have any other options for the most part. He was a black hole because he simply needed to be one. No one else on those teams could really put up points. Hence, they were terrible TEAMs.

I'm not saying he wasnt the best player/scorer on those teams. My point is he isnt gonna be a main scorer on a good team. If so I'm sure many of the good teams would have killed to just give the Clippers a second rounder for him at the time.

 

[Buzz Killington]

correct.

 

[Minstrel]

Randolph is a very bad passer and defender. He's a very good scorer and rebounder. There's no "not a winner" magic needed to explain why he's not one of the most valued players in the game...there are obvious explanations related to basketball. He has major strengths and major weaknesses. If he was a good passer and defender, he'd be a superstar.

Randolph played, as a starter, on a Portland team with virtually no talent around him, a Knicks team with virtually no talent around him, a Clippers with very little talent around him and now a Memphis team with very little proven talent around him. Again, no "loser" magic needed to explain the records of the teams he's been on...logic is all that's necessary.

I think he's a tough player to build around, since the guy you give the ball to the most needs to be able to pass the ball to exploit the defensive attention he draws, but he'd be a perfectly fine secondary or tertiary player.

 

[Buzz Killington]

I think he's a tough player to build around, since the guy you give the ball to the most needs to be able to pass the ball to explot the defensive attention he draws, but he'd be a perfectly fine secondary or tertiary player.

...such as on this current Blazers team.

 

[SnakeOiler]

...such as on this current Blazers team.

Nope

 

[Buzz Killington]

Yes, hate to have him kill our excellent ball movement and hinder LMA from developing a dominating inside game.

 

[SnakeOiler]

He makes $16 million this year. If a player at that price doesn't make a team better, he makes them worse.

 

[Denny Crane]

He makes $16 million this year. If a player at that price doesn't make a team better, he makes them worse.

Memphis is winning at a .444 clip this season, last year they were a .293 team.

 

[SnakeOiler]

Memphis is winning at a .444 clip this season, last year they were a .293 team.

Season isn't even half done. Just wait.

 

[julius]

here's an interesting stat that Damon shares with Kobe Bryant.

wow

 

[Wheels]

Season isn't even half done. Just wait.

I checked out of curiousity.. through 27 games last year the Grizz were 9-18 a .333 clip.. so they are technically improved.. on pace for a 9 win improvement.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Season isn't even half done. Just wait.

You're right. They'll probably bump that percentage up to 50% in the second half.

 

[maxiep]

...such as on this current Blazers team.

The problem is he'd have to accept a secondary or tertiary role, focusing on playing defense and getting his points off of rebounds instead of having plays run for him.

He was a terrific garbageman when he was young and trying to earn his stripes in the NBA. I'm convinced we ruined his game when we made him the #1 option and gave him his Richard Jefferson deal.