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...and they need to change the laws that allow for this BS;

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/stunning-pardons-defeated-gop-governor-accused-atrocity


With stunning pardons, defeated GOP governor accused of ‘atrocity’
12/13/19 09:20 AM

By Steve Benen
Despite Donald Trump’s furious efforts, Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin (R) lost his re-election bid last month, an embarrassing failure for a red-state Republican who expected to win. The outgoing GOP governor soon after began making plans to help with the transition to a new gubernatorial administration.

But that’s not all he did. The Courier-Journal in Louisville reported this week on Bevin’s decision to issue 428 pardons and commutations, some of which were very controversial.

The family of a man pardoned by Gov. Matt Bevin for a homicide and other crimes in a fatal 2014 Knox County home invasion raised $21,500 at a political fundraiser last year to retire debt from Bevin’s 2015 gubernatorial campaign. […]

The beneficiaries include one offender convicted of raping a child, another who hired a hit man to kill his business partner and a third who killed his parents.

The Lexington Herald-Leader had a related report yesterday, noting that Bevin, before leaving office, also intervened in support of a man who was convicted of decapitating a woman who broke up with him, and a teacher who was convicted possessing of child pornography.

The article quoted a local prosecutor saying, in reference to Bevin, “I think it’s arrogance of one who has a God-like image of himself. And a lack of concern for anybody else.”

The Washington Post talked to a different local prosecutor who added, “What this governor did is an absolute atrocity of justice. He’s put victims, he’s put others in our community in danger.”


What obviously matters most in a story like this is the integrity of the criminal justice system, the victims’ families, public safety, and concerns about possible corruption.

But to the extent that electoral considerations matter at all, I think Matt Bevin also just lit his political future on fire.
 
This is what happens when we elect assholes.

Trump leaving office will be even worse.

barfo

That is when he will pardon everyone that went down in his cabinet/election team/ etc.

Well, except for Cohen
 
That is when he will pardon everyone that went down in his cabinet/election team/ etc.

Well, except for Cohen

Certainly all of them, but I can imagine him also pardoning lots of mobsters, El Chapo, various perverts and pedophiles, any foreign spies we've got...

barfo
 
Certainly all of them, but I can imagine him also pardoning lots of mobsters, El Chapo, various perverts and pedophiles, any foreign spies we've got...

barfo

I don't know about El Chapo.

Probably Sirhan Sirhan
 
Never really been a fan of presidential/gubernatorial pardons. There should be some sort of check/balance on those. Submit them to an appellate court for review of reasoning or something.

Pardons in my book are just another method of abuse of power and no one man should have that kind of power as it is often abused with no accountability.
 
...and they need to change the laws that allow for this BS;

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/stunning-pardons-defeated-gop-governor-accused-atrocity


With stunning pardons, defeated GOP governor accused of ‘atrocity’
12/13/19 09:20 AM

By Steve Benen
Despite Donald Trump’s furious efforts, Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin (R) lost his re-election bid last month, an embarrassing failure for a red-state Republican who expected to win. The outgoing GOP governor soon after began making plans to help with the transition to a new gubernatorial administration.

But that’s not all he did. The Courier-Journal in Louisville reported this week on Bevin’s decision to issue 428 pardons and commutations, some of which were very controversial.

The family of a man pardoned by Gov. Matt Bevin for a homicide and other crimes in a fatal 2014 Knox County home invasion raised $21,500 at a political fundraiser last year to retire debt from Bevin’s 2015 gubernatorial campaign. […]

The beneficiaries include one offender convicted of raping a child, another who hired a hit man to kill his business partner and a third who killed his parents.

The Lexington Herald-Leader had a related report yesterday, noting that Bevin, before leaving office, also intervened in support of a man who was convicted of decapitating a woman who broke up with him, and a teacher who was convicted possessing of child pornography.

The article quoted a local prosecutor saying, in reference to Bevin, “I think it’s arrogance of one who has a God-like image of himself. And a lack of concern for anybody else.”

The Washington Post talked to a different local prosecutor who added, “What this governor did is an absolute atrocity of justice. He’s put victims, he’s put others in our community in danger.”


What obviously matters most in a story like this is the integrity of the criminal justice system, the victims’ families, public safety, and concerns about possible corruption.

But to the extent that electoral considerations matter at all, I think Matt Bevin also just lit his political future on fire.
OMG, will we have to face something like this when the voters kick Trump out of office next November?
 
This is what happens when we elect assholes.

Trump leaving office will be even worse.

barfo
Elections have consequences and not always for the good.
 
Would not be surprised if Mark f'n David Chapman also gets pardoned...if so, I'll track him down and finish the job myself.

j/k...well, sort of.
 
Would not be surprised if Mark f'n David Chapman also gets pardoned...if so, I'll track him down and finish the job myself.

j/k...well, sort of.

You going to catcher in the rye his ass
 
Well then how did you participate in the we activity in Kentucky?
Or are you just expanding the use of asshole to talk out yours?

I'm impressed that barfo has the ability to expand the use of anything.
 
The state Senate president has asked the Department of Justice to look into this.
 
Pardon power is a relic of monarchy. That said, I do not oppose judicious use, but governors and presidents have unlimited pardon power. Maybe a review?

I can see using pardon power in cases where there was serious doubt about a person's guilt but they lacked means for good lawyer or appeal. When the sentence was way out of line with the crime, for example, President Obama commuted sentences, but did not pardon, people who got double digit prison terms for simple possession of narcotics. Or when an abused or sexually trafficked person, in desperation, kills abuser and is convicted of murder for what should be self defense or at worst manslaughter. And if a prisoner is old and/or seriously ill as an act of mercy so he/she can die at home.

But pardoning a man who took out a hit on a business rival? Someone who killed his parents, so far as I know the person was not abused? Beheaded a woman? Child rape? I agree, WTF?
 
This is what happens when we elect assholes.

Trump leaving office will be even worse.

barfo

All guvs do this, every single one. This was mild compared to Jerry Brown. Wait till Brashear does it.
 
All guvs do this, every single one. This was mild compared to Jerry Brown. Wait till Brashear does it.

That of course is false. Show us another pardon of someone who beheaded somebody.

barfo
 
Certainly all of them, but I can imagine him also pardoning lots of mobsters, El Chapo, various perverts and pedophiles, any foreign spies we've got...

barfo

He is the first POTUS to actually bring down all these types that the deep state has aided and abetted. They will die in prison.
 
Of course you did. Don't play innocent. You enable Trump who enables thousands of other assholes.

barfo

That's a TDS ploy. Avoid the truth. Avoid the facts. Change the topic. Blame Trump voters.

The people of the great state of Kentucky gave their governor that right, regardless of his party.
 
The people of the great state of Kentucky gave their governor that right, regardless of his party.

That much is true. But given this blatant abuse of the right, perhaps they'll be the first state to eliminate the pardon.

barfo
 
He is the first POTUS to actually bring down all these types that the deep state has aided and abetted. They will die in prison.
Dying in prison, eh. That reminds me of Roger Stone, Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort. The new national pass time is what Trump advisor will get prison time next.
 

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