WTF was Batum doing there?

[dviss1]

Trying to punch the ball out of his hands.

From a Ref's perspective: Kicking or Punching the ball is Illegal. We are not to judge intent only what we see. I see a man swinging a closed fist. This is Illegal and an ejection (not only a technical foul) is warranted.

http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.html

Section V-Strike the Ball
a. A player shall not kick the ball or strike it with the fist.

 

[BBert]

So you're saying a player should be ejected for kicking the ball? Also the game was not played under NBA rules.

 

[dviss1]

So you're saying a player should be ejected for kicking the ball? Also the game was not played under NBA rules.

You're not really asking this question are you? You obviously didn't understand my post. Basically since nobody punches at the ball in basketball (happens often in Football)
one could assume he was attempting to be flagrant. Then you judge the result of the play (which was a punch to the friggin nuts) and you assess the penalty accordingly.
You cannot judge intent. You judge the action and the result of the play.

Therefore you have to assume he was punching at the player since punching at the ball rarely happens. Had he kicked at the ball and hit him in the nuts I would have ejected him too.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

You're not really asking this question are you? You obviously didn't understand my post. Basically since nobody punches at the ball in basketball (happens often in Football)
one could assume he was attempting to be flagrant. Then you judge the result of the play (which was a punch to the friggin nuts) and you assess the penalty accordingly.
You cannot judge intent. You judge the action and the result of the play.

Therefore you have to assume he was punching at the player since punching at the ball rarely happens. Had he kicked at the ball and hit him in the nuts I would have ejected him too.

You just said "You cannot judge intent." and then "Therefore you have to assume he was punching at the player." That seems exactly like judging intent to me..

 

[dviss1]

You just said "You cannot judge intent." and then "Therefore you have to assume he was punching at the player." That seems exactly like judging intent to me..

You also forgot Judge the result of the play. So judging the result of the play helps determine what the call will be. If he punches and it hits the ball. You call a violation. But if he punches and hits nuts you take the result of the play and then use the beginning of the play to determine what your call will be. You have to ask yourself a question: Was he going for the ball?

Case in point: The Tyson chandler play where he hit Przy's broken hand. You cannot be sure whether or not he meant to hurt Przy but you have to use the result of the play to determine what type of foul or infraction to call. The result of that play (after the refs went to replay) was a broken hand was hit. You cannot determine Chandler's intent, you simply have to say he swiped down and hit him on his broken hand. Lots of questions go into determining whether or not you assess a technical, or Flagrant foul.

 

[THE HCP]

^ You are too new to come up in here and question other people's posts son! Stay in your lane......... Read the rules, then post.

 

[dviss1]

^ You are too new to come up in here and question other people's posts son! Stay in your lane......... Read the rules, then post.

And I'm supposed to listen to you? VG and I were simply having a calm discussion then here you come out of the blue? You could have at least added something intelligent but no, hapless trolling?
For someone who has so many of those green things by your "status" why don't you have something smart to add to the convo?

 

[Eastoff]

And I'm supposed to listen to you? VG and I were simply having a calm discussion then here you come out of the blue? You could have at least added something intelligent but no, hapless trolling?
For someone who has so many of those green things by your "status" why don't you have something smart to add to the convo?

Ignore the hardly able to blowhard

 

[SlyPokerDog]

^ You are too new to come up in here and question other people's posts son! Stay in your lane......... Read the rules, then post.

Play nice HCP. Dviss is a friend of mine. Very nice guy and fellow NEP resident.

 

[mobes23]

Some equate dick size with number of posts, which is unfortunate because there is no correlation. In fact, it might be a negative correlation, meaning that too many posts = nub.

 

[dviss1]

Some equate dick size with number of posts, which is unfortunate because there is no correlation. In fact, it might be a negative correlation, meaning that too many posts = nub.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

^ You are too new to come up in here and question other people's posts son! Stay in your lane......... Read the rules, then post.

I guess I'm in the minority. HCP finally gets one right.

Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

 

[THE HCP]

Well if he's from the NEP, I take it all back!

 

[jlprk]

Anyone ever seen this page of quotes from Hodge?

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~jphollow/julius.html

I had not. Thanks, that is excellent!

 

[dviss1]

Well if he's from the NEP, I take it all back!

Born and Raised!

 

[dviss1]

I guess I'm in the minority. HCP finally gets one right.

Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

^^^ One of those fans who shouts at the ref but doesn't know the rules of Basketball.

 

[blue32]

since I am not reading 5 pages of typical S2 bickering.
to the OP; To answer your question "wtf was batum doing there?" Simple: he was nutt-shotting the guy to give him something to cry about....

 

[tlongII]

Do I get rep points for having my thread reach 7 pages?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Do I get rep points for having my thread reach 7 pages?

Yes, but double-negative rep points for asking for rep points.

 

[THE HCP]

Born and Raised!

REAL NEP or Gresham NEP?

 

[oldmangrouch]

REAL NEP or Gresham NEP?

So what is "REAL NEP"? I grew up a few blocks from the Hollywood District - does that count?

 

[MickZagger]

So what is "REAL NEP"? I grew up a few blocks from the Hollywood District - does that count?

It says you live in Salem. You lose all street cred with that.

 

[Eastoff]

It says you live in Salem. You lose all street cred with that.

Vantucky is probably less dangerous than Salem.

 

[mobes23]

With the state pen and mental hospital, the streets of Salem can be surprisingly skitzky, depending on the neighborhood and time of night.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Salem: State Pen+ State Hospital+ State Legislature = most dangerous town in Oregon.

 

[mobes23]

Shoot, yeah, politicos...the scariest of the bunch lol.

 

[jlprk]

Salem: State Pen+ State Hospital+ State Legislature = most dangerous town in Oregon.

After getting jumped by a gang of legislators when the bar closes, you'll be ready to walk around the nefarious Klickitat/20th Ave in the daylight.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/or/portland/crime/

 

[MickZagger]

Vantucky is probably less dangerous than Salem.

How about St. Johns?

 

[Eastoff]

How about St. Johns?

E: this what you're talking about?

 

[dviss1]

REAL NEP or Gresham NEP?

C'mon now... I went to King, Jefferson, AND Grant.