Xmas shopping help

[Denny Crane]

 

[Denny Crane]

http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm#America

 

[Further]

http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm#America

So according to that the best estimate is 40M based primarily on a couple books written in 87 and 98. Considering recent findings have been resulting in an uptick of estimates, I would say the 60M I mentioned seems quite reasonable.

 

[Denny Crane]

Read the link. The estimates are all over the place and new information does little to form a consensus.

Feel free to find links that show a few Chicago sized cities have been found.

 

[MARIS61]

I'm talking the americas, too.

The bulk of the population would be Incas and Aztecs in South America.

There are no other massively large cities that suggest population of 80M.

Seriously, the US had an 80M population in 1900. That means cities like San Francisco, LA, NY, Philly, Chicago, etc. Too big to just be lost in the jungle.

In 1492 it is estimated there were over 60,000,000 Buffalo in North America alone, and yet, no massive buffalo cities have ever been discovered.

 

[Denny Crane]

In 1492 it is estimated there were over 60,000,000 Buffalo in North America alone, and yet, no massive buffalo cities have ever been discovered.

Thanks for the factoid.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Right now I'm reading 1491, a book about the Americas before Columbus. Real interesting, our understanding has greatly changed over the past few decades through archaeological digs and data analysis, so what I learned in school is now extremely outdated and in some cases dead wrong. For example in school I remember learning that it was thought that there were a few million Natives before the Columbus, but that number keeps getting adjusted upward every time they find evidence of these giant cities. The best current estimate is now 60mil, but the author believes once the dust settles the final best estimate will be about 80 million Natives in the Americas. I recommend this book if you like nonfiction.

1491 is a great read. The follow up 1493 is good too.

 

[Denny Crane]

1491*

 

[Further]

1491 is a great read. The follow up 1493 is good too.

How stupid do you think I am, I'm not going to skip ahead, I'll read 1492 next, then I'll read 1493.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

In 1492 it is estimated there were over 60,000,000 Buffalo in North America alone, and yet, no massive buffalo cities have ever been discovered.

There's Buffalo, NY

 

[barfo]

How stupid do you think I am, I'm not going to skip ahead, I'll read 1492 next, then I'll read 1493.

I'm reading '1941'. It's about the year before the Summer of '42. Mostly just Hermie masturbating.

barfo

 

[3RA1N1AC]

What did you go with Maris? In all seriousness the new paperwhite is pretty great, battery lasts for days, and doesn't strain the eyes as bad as tablets if she reads in bed

For strictly reading theres no question

 

[Denny Crane]

If he gets her a shovel, he can turn his dishwasher into a snow plow.

 

[mook]

If I might be of some help, everything in this section of our website is Made in America.

 

[mook]

If I might be of some help, everything in this section of our website is Made in America.

But you're purchase will go toward helping me leave America, so I guess there's that. However, our business will continue to stay in America and we'll pay American taxes, and we will continue to employ Americans. One of them is an immigrant (my father-in-law) so if that gets your dander up you might reconsider. But he's a legal citizen, so maybe it's ok. *shrug*

 

[MARIS61]

Thanks for the factoid.

My point being that like buffalo, indians were nomadic. Hence no large cities.

 

[MARIS61]

What did you go with Maris? In all seriousness the new paperwhite is pretty great, battery lasts for days, and doesn't strain the eyes as bad as tablets if she reads in bed

For strictly reading theres no question

Turns out movie viewing is also a factor. Looking at a kindle fire hd 8.9".

 

[Denny Crane]

My point being that like buffalo, indians were nomadic. Hence no large cities.

If you put 5M humans in one place, there will be a city.

 

[MARIS61]

In 1890, America was 60,000,000 strong, but our largest city was only 1,500,000 and that was only because it was the door to America. Aside from a few dozen port cities, we were pretty spread out.

 

[Denny Crane]

In 1890, America was 60,000,000 strong, but our largest city was only 1,500,000 and that was only because it was the door to America. Aside from a few dozen port cities, we were pretty spread out.

2000 people near each other make a decent sized small town.

 

[maxiep]

Buy her something made in the USA? Seems like supporting overseas sweatshop labor and its profiteers in a communist country, enabled by the tax cheats at amazon, is the last thing a REAL american would even consider. You should be ashamed of yourself

Repped. A perfect mirror of how MARIS would have responded to this post if it were started by someone else.

 

[maxiep]

I'm a Luddite, but for me, nothing beats the experience of holding a physical book. I have a Kindle, but it's a shadow of the feeling of holding a real book. I love the idea of carrying a library in my hand, but I also love going to my local bookstore, perusing the shelves and finding a treasure.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

+1 for books, analog music, oil paintings, and non-HD video

Its just better, no question

 

[MARIS61]

2000 people near each other make a decent sized small town.

Not if they move every few months.

Maybe "campground" is the term you're looking for.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

what should I get my coworkers for christmas? $20 and under.

i'm thinking just a pack of chocolate from Godiva.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

what should I get my coworkers for christmas? $20 and under.

i'm thinking just a pack of chocolate from Godiva.

I sent each of my co-workers a bottle of wine.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Hmm. Yeah, not too good with wine. we'll see........

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Hmm. Yeah, not too good with wine. we'll see........

That's what makes it great. I sent everyone a bottle of wine we actually sell.

I was trying to think of something else to send along. The chocolate idea isn't a bad one.

 

[Denny Crane]

Not if they move every few months.

Maybe "campground" is the term you're looking for.

The means you don't know.

Agreed. You don't know.

Campgrounds?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Need a last-minute gift for the sneaker collector in the family? How about some $4,000 Jordans:

The shoes are "player exclusives," meaning only a small circle of athletes received them.
In this case, the shoes were made for the University of Oregon football team. Each player received a pair. They aren't for sale to the general public.

http://dlvr.it/4YDk6l