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Andrew Miller's name is "out there a bit" in trade talks as per John Heyman.

USA Today reports that the Red Sox are expressing interest in Chris Young as per Bob Nightengale.
 
BOCA RATON, Fla. -- Yankees GM Brian Cashman has signaled he's willing to talk about just about anyone in trade, and while it's a long shot, that apparently even includes star closer Andrew Miller.

Other teams say Miller's name is out there a bit, though even they wonder how serious the Yankees are about it.

"We're open to all ideas -- as always," Cashman said when asked about Miller. "It doesn't mean I'd do anything but if the Dutch never asked the Indians for Manhattan you'd be living in New Jersey."

Others suggest the price tag would be very high for Miller, whose first year in New York was nothing short of brilliant. The Yankees would want an ace pitcher or some other huge return sources suggest, to so much as consider it.

One player that could make sense for Miller is Nationals starStephen Strasburg, who might be hard for Washington to extend. That is speculative; it isn't known if Miller's name has come up with Washington.

The Tigers, Diamondbacks , Red Sox , Astros and Blue Jaysare among teams looking at closers. The Blue Jays and Astros had interest in Miller last winter.

The Yankees are a rare team with two closer-quality relievers with Dellin Betances being the other. They also tried for Aroldis Chapman and Craig Kimbrel at the trade deadline and could consider them again this winter.

Miller, going into his second year of his $36M, four-year deal, does not have no-trade capability.
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First off - Leave Strasburg where he is....unless the Yanks can get him for a song. The guy is a walking DL.

Second - If Cashman were to trade Miller, it had better be for a ready made SOUND and HEALTHY young "star" player/pitcher without very recent health issues

Third- Cashman should not even be entertaining Miller trade talks unless he has a move ready for Kimbrel or Chapman...then I can go along with a possible Miller trade.


If Cashman trades Miller for Strasburg........@%#@&#@%!

However, look closely, there isn't really anything except the writer's own thoughts and old news:

"One player that could make sense for Miller is Nationals starStephen Strasburg, who might be hard for Washington to extend.••• That is speculative; it isn't known if Miller's name has come up with Washington.

The Tigers, Diamondbacks , Red Sox , Astros and Blue Jaysare among teams looking at closers. •••The Blue Jays and Astros had interest in Miller last winter".


John ("says Heyman") Heyman.

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Yankees GM Brian Cashman said Monday that CC Sabathia will not be guaranteed a spot in the Starting Rotation in 2016 as per ESPN New York.
 
I dont think any Gm in their right mind would've said otherwise,
including Cashman.
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Michael Silverman reports that The Red Sox will meet with the representatives for free agent outfielder Chris Young on Tuesday as per The Boston Herald.
 
Interesting to see what this GM does........expect
Patchwork Yankee Pinstripes. Yeah, I'd like to
see who goes and who he gets in return.
I can see it now.................:mooning:.....he will again be
pulling 'something' over Yankee Fandom!
 
cagedlion said:
Interesting to see what this GM does........expect
Patchwork Yankee Pinstripes. Yeah, I'd like to
see who goes and who he gets in return.
I can see it now.................:mooning:.....he will again be
pulling 'something' over Yankee Fandom!
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Just curious - how would you rate the Gregorius deal?
 
yankeesince59 said:
...how would you rate the Sabathia deal?
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Are you being serious?
Or is this just an attempt to deflect any mention or suggestion that Cashman (to this point) has made a "good" trade in the acquisition of Gregorius?
Filling a high profile glaring vacancy left open with the retirement of a legend with a young inexpensive player.

Would you care to hear the answer to the question I asked of SOMEONE ELSE before you jumped in? Of course not.

And why should we waste our time going around in circles over CC?
I'll gladly give my answer to your question about CC but I don't think it would matter to you.....maybe if we could replace CC with another name another GM for Cashman, and another poster instead of me we would have a more rational honest discussion.
 
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Lillie said:
Yankees GM Brian Cashman said Monday that CC Sabathia will not be guaranteed a spot in the Starting Rotation in 2016 as per ESPN New York.
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The GM said? Holy crap, I remember the days where the manager made these kinds of decision.
 
Rick2583 said:
The GM said? Holy crap, I remember the days where the manager made these kinds of decision.
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But if the "mgr" ultimately chose to put CC in the rotation and CC stunk up the place we would then tear up Trashman the idiot.
Yes? No?
 
...myopically citing Cashman's good moves while ignoring the plethora of bad ones is hysterical.
 
Forget your optics of those deals....its the nose that is truly offended.
 
Yankees trade Jose Pirela to the Padres in exchange for minor league RHP Ronald Herrera as per The New York Post.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...myopically citing Cashman's good moves while ignoring the plethora of bad ones is hysterical.
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You seem to have a nice pat answer for everything.
You're a legend in your own mind.?
Hope you're not overly sensitive whenever Gregorius' name comes up because it appears as if Cashman cleaned your boy Dombrowski's clock in that trade but cheer up, Shane Greene can still turn it around and maybe Gregorius will revert back to being a .230 hitter who can't touch LHP.

And he left the Tigers in.... SHAMBLES ?

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Lillie said:
Yankees trade Jose Pirela to the Padres in exchange for minor league RHP Ronald Herrera as per The New York Post.
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Still think Pirela is a pretty good hitter and as a free swinger he needed ABs.
Doesn't have a regular position and isn't known for his defense but I think the Padres did okay in exchange Herrera.
 
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Lillie said:
Yankees trade Jose Pirela to the Padres in exchange for minor league RHP Ronald Herrera as per The New York Post.
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...Cashman seems to be making moves just for the sake of making moves. First he trades Murphy, who was solid last year, in exchange for a career .225 hitter who the Twins were not happy with and so far has been a head case with an attitude problem.
...now he trade Pirela, who was by no means a super star, for a mediocre 20 year old pitcher.

...again, can anyone explain how this kind of shit makes the Yanx stronger?
 
Fox Sports indicated that the Diamondbacks will be among the teams that are expected to show interest in Yankees closer Andrew Miller as per Ken Rosenthal.
 
Cashman seems to be making moves just for the sake of making moves. First he trades Murphy, who was solid last year, in exchange for a career .225 hitter who the Twins were not happy with and so far has been a head case with an attitude problem.
...now he trade Pirela, who was by no means a super star, for a mediocre 20 year old pitcher.

...again, can anyone explain how this kind of shit makes the Yanx stronger?


I gave it a whirl in the other thread- tell me what you think.
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Gardy and/or Beltran could now be used in trades to "improve" the team while getting cheaper and .....um...younger?
Also opening up another outfield spot for Heathcott or Williams/Judge.

2015:
Hicks 390 PA - 11 hr, 33 rbi, 13/16 SB, .256 ba, .721 ops
Gardy 656 PA- 16 hr, 66 rbi, 20/25 SB, .259 ba, .742 ops

Hicks 26 yrs old, $ 550K per
Gardy 32 yrs old, owed 39- 51 mil (?)
Hicks has to be expected to at least approximate what Gardy gave them offensively with a good chance of improving on those numbers getting a couple hundred more PA than last year (390) without losing anything on defense.

Then there is Sanchez for backup catcher. ?


From Mark Feinsand NY DAILY NEWS:
Cashman said he'd be comfortable with Gary Sanchez as McCann's backup "but that doesn't mean that's going to happen." Romine also in mix.
11:29 AM - 11 Nov 2015
 
Lillie said:
Fox Sports indicated that the Diamondbacks will be among the teams that are expected to show interest in Yankees closer Andrew Miller as per Ken Rosenthal.
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We don't need Ken Rosenthal to tells us.
I'm sure a whole bunch of teams would be interested in Miller.

This could just be a reaction to Cashman saying he'll listen to all offers for just about anyone.
My goodness, can Cashman be dumb enough to trade his excellent closer without securing another solid closer?

Sorry, I don't buy it.
If....if Cashman were to trade Miller I think he would have a deal in place for Chapman or Kimbrel.....or some other "top" closer.
 
... I asked how trading Murphy and Pirela in return for fringe player made the Yanx "better" and "stronger"...and predictably I get blind defense of anything Cashman does as an answer.

...comparing Hicks to Gardner is laughable...as is comparing their salaries...the money is irrelevant and was not a factor, and in no way should the possibility of trading Gardner be viewed as a salary dump. Hicks is not a replacement for Gardner and he's not an every day player, he's a platoon player who also reportedly has an attitude problem.
 
yankeesince59 said:
... I asked how trading Murphy and Pirela in return for fringe player made the Yanx "better" and "stronger"...and predictably I get blind defense of anything Cashman does as an answer.

...comparing Hicks to Gardner is laughable...as is comparing their salaries...the money is irrelevant and was not a factor, and in no way should the possibility of trading Gardner be viewed as a salary dump. Hicks is not a replacement for Gardner and he's not an every day player, he's a platoon player who also reportedly has an attitude problem.
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Predictably we get knee-jerk critisim of Cashman.
What about getting YOUNGER , and more payroll FLEXIBILITY?
How much pay difference is there going go be between Young and Hicks?.... and there is also a fair possibility Gardner and/or Beltran's salary will be traded away.
And you seem to be overlooking another one of the Yankee top prospects who happens to be a catcher - Sanchez, who HAS done well at AAA, who is also YOUNG and inexpensive.
You constantly whine about any and everything Cashman does and when the subject of he and Hal having a "plan" to get younger is brought up you strategically try and spin it to suit you by saying "it's ever changing", and isn't taking shape.
I have more than once mentioned (and is clear for all to see) how the Yanks are positioned to soon have no fewer than 5-6 young, inexpensive players on the field at a given time with all but one (Gregorius) being homegrown, and HE was acquired by using one minor league product who hasnt yet made the Yanks regret the trade- lol

I'm beginning to think you aren't qualified to discuss any Yankee trades and moves because you are strongly biased against Cashman.

You ask questions and when an answer/opinion is given which you disagree with you simply dismiss it out of hand, mention the "majority" and demand an "answer/opinion" which fits your narrative....it appears to me you aren't satisfied or able to converse unless all fall in line.
Lmao.....otherwise, you're an intelligent fellow and good baseball fan.

CC? Bad contract? At this point it sure looks that way.
However, in your rabid bias against Cashman/ownership, you are unable to measure the "contract" with any fairness.

CC was 31 yrs old when they extended him (2011) into 2016 and was coming off three straight excellent years combining for 53-19,
ERA 3.18, WHIP 1.18.
He is now 35 yrs old and won't turn 36 until July.
Want to ask the "majority" and other baseball "people" if it's stupid or irresponsible to expect a SP to pitch well from ages 32-35?

The Yanks made the choice, some others may have NOT, but don't try and portray the decision to be some kind of pie in sky ridiculous move.

Let me give another example which you have, and will certainly have continued to conveninetly avoid:
The Tigers (DOMBROWSKI) extended Verlander at age 30 (2013) through the 2019 season which would bring him to age 36.
Once again, you may or may not agree with it, but let's not act as if the thought process behind CC's extension was so ridiculous or incompetent.

And either way, the Yanks could and CAN afford it.
So please go easy on the baloney.
 
^^^this wall of mindless words is so full of holes I really don't know where to begin...but I'll dissect a few points.


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Predictably we get knee-jerk critisim of Cashman.
What about getting YOUNGER , and more payroll FLEXIBILITY?
How much pay difference is there going go be between Young and Hicks?.... and there is also a fair possibility Gardner and/or Beltran's salary will be traded away.[/QUOTE]["blgridesagain, post: 3758682, member: 27916"]

...comparing the contracts of Young and Hicks and implying that the move was about "payroll flexibility"?...lmao ...and who gives 2 shit about the age of 2 bench platoon players?...and I'll ask again, does losing Young while acquiring Hicks make the Yanx stronger?...yes or no?


And you seem to be overlooking another one of the Yankee top prospects who happens to be a catcher - Sanchez, who HAS done well at AAA, who is also YOUNG and inexpensive.

...I didn't overlook anything...I said that Murphy was proven and Sanchez was not, period. Can you dispute that?...yes or no? And again, this is the Yanx not some small market franchise...as you admitted in your last sentence, "the Yanx can afford it"...make up your mind because you can try but you can't have it both ways.


You constantly whine about any and everything Cashman does and when the subject of he and Hal having a "plan" to get younger is brought up you strategically try and spin it to suit you by saying "it's ever changing", and isn't taking shape.

...I see, so when you constantly point something out, it's voicing your opinion...when I do it, it's "whining"... again, stop with the hypocrisy.


I have more than once mentioned (and is clear for all to see) how the Yanks are positioned to soon have no fewer than 5-6 young, inexpensive players on the field at a given time with all but one (Gregorius) being homegrown, and HE was acquired by using one minor league product who hasnt yet made the Yanks regret the trade- lol

...and there you have it...the omnipresent mentioning of Gregorius, as if he's something special...he had 2 months where he actually hit well and that's it, but you assume that will be the norm instead of what he's been in the past. He a mediocre hitter and a barely above average defensive SS. There are probably about 7 or 8 SSs I'd rather have.

I'm beginning to think you aren't qualified to discuss any Yankee trades and moves because you are strongly biased against Cashman.

...bias has nothing to do with it...my feeling about his ability, or lack thereof have merit and have been presented before. I bash Cashman for good reason, because he's a bad GM, period.

You ask questions and when an answer/opinion is given which you disagree with you simply dismiss it out of hand, mention the "majority" and demand an "answer/opinion" which fits your narrative....it appears to me you aren't satisfied or able to converse unless all fall in line.
Lmao.....otherwise, you're an intelligent fellow and good baseball fan.

...sorry, but I'm certainly not here for your validation.

CC? Bad contract? At this point it sure looks that way.
However, in your rabid bias against Cashman/ownership, you are unable to measure the "contract" with any fairness.

...seriously?...what "fairness" does that horrible contract merit?...and it's been a bad contract for a few years now.

CC was 31 yrs old when they extended him (2011) into 2016 and was coming off three straight excellent years combining for 53-19,
ERA 3.18, WHIP 1.18.
He is now 35 yrs old and won't turn 36 until July.
Want to ask the "majority" and other baseball "people" if it's stupid or irresponsible to expect a SP to pitch well from ages 32-35?

...uhhh, the only reason they "extended" CC in the first place was because Cashman inanely gave him an "opt out" clause in his first contract.


Let me give another example which you have, and will certainly have continued to conveninetly avoid:
The Tigers (DOMBROWSKI) extended Verlander at age 30 (2013) through the 2019 season which would bring him to age 36.
Once again, you may or may not agree with it, but let's not act as if the thought process behind CC's extension was so ridiculous or incompetent.

...and there you go with Dombrowski again...why do you incessantly and irrelevantly bring him up?...I could care less about him or the Tigers or any other team for that matter, ...we're talking about Cashman and the Yankees.

And either way, the Yanks could and CAN afford it.
So please go easy on the baloney.

...as I've already pointed out, are the Yanx now trying to save money or as you say can "they afford it"?...like I said, you can't have it both ways.
 
I've never seen any one person, talk to themselves so much, as I see here. Not even those locked up in Asylum's, seem to talk to themselves as much....

"It's ok to talk to oneself, but only if said person doesn't reply back".....

thus spoke Carl Jung
 
According to the New York Daily News, The Yankees could make a serious run at Wei-Yin-Chen as per Mark Feinsand.
 
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