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...don't know why you decided to typically and irrelevantly interject run differential into this thread is anybody's guess, ...but since you did, actually the discussion was about you trying to use run differential after only 12 games into the season as a barometer...after the Yanx had already won games by the score of 14-4 and 9-0 ... yeah, great way to gauge a team.
...this is why stats in the hands of those who don't fully understand them is dangerous.
 
...captain irrelevant strikes again !

...but since you decided to interject into this thread anyway, no, the discussion was about you trying to use run differential after only 12 games into the season as a barometer.[/QUOTE


Dont go there...my point was, and still is the numbers are indisputable regarding plus- minus run differential as it applies to first place teams, and last place teams....and ESPECIALLY teams which make it to the WS. YOU were the one who tried to sidetrack the issue and discredit me (the percentages) by bringing up (I believe) the 2014 Jays who were in 3rd place with a plus run diff over 30, and the Yanks in 2nd place with a minus...
The issue isn't about whether or not a team can have a winning rec with a minus, or vice versa, it's about the overwhelming statistical proof that shows a vast majority of teams finishing in last place down through the years with a minus run diff....and conversely teams finishing in 1st place through the years having a plus run diff.....and the rarest team is a WS team which finished with a regular season minus run differential.
Not impossible for a last place to have plus run differential....but very rare, and it's usually not a HIGH number. We've down this road...the numbers speak for themselves.
 
Dont go there...my point was, and still is the numbers are indisputable regarding plus- minus run differential as it applies to first place teams, and last place teams....and ESPECIALLY teams which make it to the WS. YOU were the one who tried to sidetrack the issue and discredit me (the percentages) by bringing up (I believe) the 2014 Jays who were in 3rd place with a plus run diff over 30, and the Yanks in 2nd place with a minus...
The issue isn't about whether or not a team can have a winning rec with a minus, or vice versa, it's about the overwhelming statistical proof that shows a vast majority of teams finishing in last place down through the years with a minus run diff....and conversely teams finishing in 1st place through the years having a plus run diff.....and the rarest team is a WS team which finished with a regular season minus run differential.
Not impossible for a last place to have plus run differential....but very rare, and it's usually not a HIGH number. We've down this road...the numbers speak for themselves.
You only tried to "question" this solid historic statistical proof because I brought it up and you were in your defensive mode trying to bolster I believe Rick's brainstorm about the last place A's having a good plus run differential during the season.....but, it didn't hold up - last place AND minus run diff for the 2015 A's.
Better luck next time.
 
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...what part of "you don't use run differential after only 12 games to gauge a team" don't you understand. It certainly is disputable when you try use that stat on such a minuscule sample size.

...that was the discussion, period...seriously, why do you constantly look to stir shit up by bringing up irrelevant things from the past that no one cares about but you?
 
Speaking of baseball- remember when I caught all that flak about plus mi us run differnetial.....and Ricky two teams gave me a hard time because
at the time the A's were over PLUS 30 runs and in last place....well, I just reminded him the season wasn't over yet and lo and behold- the A's finished with a MINUS 35 ...and IN LAST PLACE. lol


I can only assume that you're either drinking again or you're off your meds. I mean seriously, why else would you bring up a topic that was discussed months ago. And apparently you didn't get the memo but the season ended a few months ago.
 
I can only assume that you're either drinking again or you're off your meds. I mean seriously, why else would you bring up a topic that was discussed months ago. And apparently you didn't get the memo but the season ended a few months ago.


Well Rick, seems like you have no problem volunteering to say dumb things which question MY judgement and intelligence on matters and issues on the board.
Sometime I think you've appointed yourself as my spokesman.

YOU were beating your chest trying to belittle me and poke holes as I brought up (during last reg season) a tremendously consistent high percentage number associated with last place teams, first place teams, and WS teams- that is +/- run differential....through the years.
By bringing up the A's who at that point of the season had a +run diff over 30 while being in last place you were trying to weaken my stance and had a nice little laugh at my expense....this had to be the reason since you NEVER DID, nor have you aknowledged the overwhelming % of 1st place teams finishing with +run diff, and same for those % of last place teams who FINISH with a -run diff.....intead, you took the incomplete road and pointed to the A's in order to discredit me.

I even remember responding to you about that- something along the lines of:
If those A's finish in last place and maintain a +run diff over 30, it would be one of the quirkiest, freakiest rarest things in recent history regarding final plus/minus run diff.

It's like this Rick, everyone plays a clown at one time or another...and you are no exception.
And you know darn well I take my share of slings and arrows.
 
Well Rick, seems like you have no problem volunteering to say dumb things which question MY judgement and intelligence on matters and issues on the board.
Sometime I think you've appointed yourself as my spokesman.

YOU were beating your chest trying to belittle me and poke holes as I brought up (during last reg season) a tremendously consistent high percentage number associated with last place teams, first place teams, and WS teams- that is +/- run differential....through the years.
By bringing up the A's who at that point of the season had a +run diff over 30 while being in last place you were trying to weaken my stance and had a nice little laugh at my expense....this had to be the reason since you NEVER DID, nor have you aknowledged the overwhelming % of 1st place teams finishing with +run diff, and same for those % of last place teams who FINISH with a -run diff.....intead, you took the incomplete road and pointed to the A's in order to discredit me.

I even remember responding to you about that- something along the lines of:
If those A's finish in last place and maintain a +run diff over 30, it would be one of the quirkiest, freakiest rarest things in recent history regarding final plus/minus run diff.

It's like this Rick, everyone plays a clown at one time or another...and you are no exception.
And you know darn well I take my share of slings and arrows.





And all your self gratification from shit that happened MONTHS ago is important now.........how?

As far as belittling you, you need no help with that.
 
Obviously the class ass, has mistaken me for someone who gives a damn.

Learn from the mistakes of your parents, "Use Birth Control".......or-
After meeting you, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest.
 
And all your self gratification from shit that happened MONTHS ago is important now.........how?

As far as belittling you, you need no help with that.

No Rick - only because you seem to be my spokesman and it's never anything good- just chalk this up to me keeping things real just as you have no problem tossing insults, questioning my thoughts, judgements and trying to create an atmosphere of me being some kind of clown who is always "wrong"....just accept that we are capable of bringing up past episodes to demonstrate some other "clownish" behavior by others and you're no exception!.....and of course I do NOT believe I'm always 'right"...and you have also had your moments. Dont tell me you can give, but can't take. tsk tsk
 
...don't worry, just do what you're good at...post something inane like calling someone an "idiot", and then simply go back later and edit it out or delete it.
 
No Rick - only because you seem to be my spokesman and it's never anything good- just chalk this up to me keeping things real just as you have no problem tossing insults, questioning my thoughts, judgements and trying to create an atmosphere of me being some kind of clown who is always "wrong"....just accept that we are capable of bringing up past episodes to demonstrate some other "clownish" behavior by others and you're no exception!.....and of course I do NOT believe I'm always 'right"...and you have also had your moments. Dont tell me you can give, but can't take. tsk tsk




Your "KEEPING IT REAL" would hold a lot more water if you could only manage to just stay in the here & now & try to refrain from having to go back months just to prove that you may actually be right about something. When you think about it, that's pretty pathetic. But hey, honestly I love having you on this board because of what you bring. It doesn't even matter that what you know about the game one could fit into a thimble, the main thing is that you keep us entertained. And for that & I think I speak for others here...........................................We thank you.

:jerry::jumprope::party::smiley-jumping:
 
...^^^ hey, that's the main reason I come here, to watch the comedic self mutilation show.

...and it's free.
 
I agree Rick & Ron. This shit is funny and entertaining and like you said its free!!!
 
No Rick - only because you seem to be my spokesman and it's never anything good- just chalk this up to me keeping things real just as you have no problem tossing insults, questioning my thoughts, judgements and trying to create an atmosphere of me being some kind of clown who is always "wrong"....just accept that we are capable of bringing up past episodes to demonstrate some other "clownish" behavior by others and you're no exception!.....and of course I do NOT believe I'm always 'right"...and you have also had your moments. Dont tell me you can give, but can't take. tsk tsk

shit man, don't hurt yourself thinking, is that a honking nose your wearing, ......? Is that a wig, or do you have your hair styled like Ronald McDonald.....?

Don't judge least you be judged, and I don't mean Aaron Judge, but I bet that's what you were thinking.....

Yes, You DO BELIEVE YOUR ALWAYS RIGHT, and belittle others for not agreeing with your BS.....you re-hash bullshit of the past, brow beat others, cannot take constructive criticism or any opinion that is not aligned with your own 2 cents; and cannot let go of your neurosis......or take your meds on time, or on a regular basis.....
 
shit man, don't hurt yourself thinking, is that a honking nose your wearing, ......? Is that a wig, or do you have your hair styled like Ronald McDonald.....?

Don't judge least you be judged, and I don't mean Aaron Judge, but I bet that's what you were thinking.....

Yes, You DO BELIEVE YOUR ALWAYS RIGHT, and belittle others for not agreeing with your BS.....you re-hash bullshit of the past, brow beat others, cannot take constructive criticism or any opinion that is not aligned with your own 2 cents; and cannot let go of your neurosis......or take your meds on time, or on a regular basis.....


You're full of baloney.
By the way - how often have you heard anyone here say they were "wrong" or so and so was "right"...c'mon, what kind of crap are trying to sell?
 
Your too much like a terrorist, you hit, then run like hell........

If you stuck around long enough, you would of seen every poster here, say things like, "my bad", "I stand corrected", and Yep, "Sorry, I was wrong".......but then if you did stick around, or were here sooner, you'd of read as much..... none of us here claim to be of Angelic Origins....on 2nd thought check that.....

If your going to stick around in the future; only to INSULT everyone here but Lillie; this board would become a ghost town.....
 
You're full of baloney.
By the way - how often have you heard anyone here say they were "wrong" or so and so was "right"...c'mon, what kind of crap are trying to sell?




I'm always disagreeing with someone, I just do it more often with you because you're wrong more often.
 
Your too much like a terrorist, you hit, then run like hell........

If you stuck around long enough, you would of seen every poster here, say things like, "my bad", "I stand corrected", and Yep, "Sorry, I was wrong".......but then if you did stick around, or were here sooner, you'd of read as much..... none of us here claim to be of Angelic Origins....on 2nd thought check that.....

If your going to stick around in the future; only to INSULT everyone here but Lillie; this board would become a ghost town.....

You should thank me for being here...we wouldn't want any visitors or prospects to think everyone here sits around holding hands nodding at each other in agreement on EVERYTHING concerning the Yanks and Trashman. Sounds kinda unhealthy.
By the way Matt, do you think the "Cheeseheads" have gotten your memo to "say goodbye to the playoffs"....?
 
USA Today reports that the Indians, White Sox, Royals & Dodgers are all involved in a possible trade for Todd Frasier as per Bob Nightengale.
 
USA Today reports that the Indians, White Sox, Royals & Dodgers are all involved in a possible trade for Todd Frasier as per Bob Nightengale.


The Dodgers already have Gonzales at 1B & he's making over $20M per so he's not going anywhere. 3B is an option but I can't think of anyone the Reds would want.
 
^^^I was wondering the same thing...also don't get KC in on him...they already have Moustakas at 3B.
 
...he'd definitely fill the need for a solid RBI producing RHed bat the problem though, is that Frazier would only be a 2 year rental.

...plus considering that Cincy is in a rebuilding mode I doubt they'd want 2 guys who are on the wrong side of 30 like Gardner and Headley...I gotta believe they want prospect in return for Frazier.
 
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