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#Yankees working on 3-team deal w/ AZ and DET to land SS Didi Gregorius. Hearing Shane Greene would go to DET, Tigers sending 2 P's to AZ.

Per Sweeny Marti

What do you all think?
 
...I was just about to post this...we could do much worse than Gregorius...hate to lose Greene.
 
I hope this deal is a rumor, I like Greene think he's got a good future.
 
Didi is young so you knew we would have to give up something decent to get him. I would rather have Castro but I am ok with Didi.
 
Greene was someone the fans could cheer for and look forward to next season, I guess they figure CC is going to step up huge so the could let Greene go *^&%&^$^%$$%^.
 
A light hitting so-so fielding SS with no power for a pitcher with a good future. ANOTHER desperate foolish move by Cashman. We're better off with Drew.
 
I like the trade and Didi is young. Cashman is not done. I think now he will try to sign Miller, McCarthy and Scherzer.
 
...DiDi comes very cheap, is under team control till 2020, and gives the Yanx some flexibility moving ahead. If he does well, great...if he doesn't, they can go another direction.

...like I said, I hate to lose Greene but this would seem to me to be a sure sign that Cashman will replace Greene with perhaps one of the big FA pitchers.
 
JeterRules20 said:
Didi is young so you knew we would have to give up something decent to get him. I would rather have Castro but I am ok with Didi.
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I don't like the deal -
Shane Greene who is also young has shown himself to be more than DECENT in his first season with the Yanks.

What exactly does Didi do well?
Being a "good" defensive SS?
Looking at his offensive numbers and not being a significant SB threat, he BETTER be at least a "good" defensive SS.


Yanks are giving up a young SP in Greene who in his first and only 14 starts with the Yanks posted a 3.78 ERA and averaged 9 Ks per 9 IP.

Didi - has yet to play in more than 103 G in a season, .243/..313/.366
Has hit 13 career HRs in 647 ABs,
He's stolen a grand total of 3 bases in 5 attempts in his 724 career PA.

He has a .313 career OBP, hasn't even shown himself to a significant SB threat, and isn't known as a defensive whiz.
Is this a joke?

And we're trading a young pitcher who has done reasonably well for his first 14 ML starts?
With Tanaka's elbow still a question? Nova? CC? McCarthy who knows? Capuano?
Pineda has shown to be injury prone.

I would expect more than Didi Gregorius in exchange for giving up on Greene.
 
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blgridesagain said:
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I don't like the deal -
Shane Greene who is also young has shown himself to be more than DECENT in his first season with the Yanks.

What exactly does Didi do well?
Being a "good" defensive SS?
Looking at his offensive numbers and not being a significant SB threat, he BETTER be at least a "good" defensive SS.


Yanks are giving up a young SP in Greene who in his first and only 14 starts with the Yanks posted a 3.78 ERA and averaged 9 Ks per 9 IP.

Didi - has yet to play in more than 103 G in a season, .243/..313/.366
Has hit 13 career HRs in 647 ABs,
He's stolen a grand total of 3 bases in 5 attempts in his 724 career PA.

He has a .313 career OBP, isn't a major threat to steal a base, and isn't known as a defensive whiz.
Is this a joke?

And we're trading a young pitcher who has done reasonably well for his first 14 ML starts?
With Tanaka's elbow still a question? Nova? CC? McCarthy who know? Capuano? Pineda has shown to be injury prone.

I would expect more than Didi Gregorius in exchange for giving up on Greene.
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By giving Greene up in this trade signal that other pitchers are coming in? I think it does...
 
I don't like the deal -
Shane Greene who is also young has shown himself to be more than DECENT in his first season with the Yanks.

What exactly does Didi do well?
Being a "good" defensive SS?
Looking at his offensive numbers and not being a significant SB threat, he BETTER be at least a "good" defensive SS.


Yanks are giving up a young SP in Greene who in his first and only 14 starts with the Yanks posted a 3.78 ERA and averaged 9 Ks per 9 IP.

Didi - has yet to play in more than 103 G in a season, .243/..313/.366
Has hit 13 career HRs in 647 ABs,
He's stolen a grand total of 3 bases in 5 attempts in his 724 career PA.

He has a .313 career OBP, isn't a major threat to steal a base, and isn't known as a defensive whiz.
Is this a joke?

And we're trading a young pitcher who has done reasonably well for his first 14 ML starts?
With Tanaka's elbow still a question? Nova? CC? McCarthy who know? Capuano? Pineda has shown to be injury prone.

I would expect more than Didi Gregorius in exchange for giving up on Greene.
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...Greene really has not a large enough sample size to tell one way or another what he is. But he's also been erratic, has also been lit up in a few games, walks way too many batters, and is not very good fielding his position.
 
Majorball said:
By giving Greene up in this trade signal that other pitchers are coming in? I think it does...
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I hope so Frank otherwise this deal completely sucks because Didi brings absolutely NOTHING to the table.
 
From DJ to DiDi, let a new era begin.
 
Didi Gregorius = a decent fielder with no bat, no speed & no power. If this is our starting SS for 2015 I'd rather go with Drew, at least he has some pop. JMO.
 
Rick2583 said:
Didi Gregorius = a decent fielder with no bat, no speed & no power. If this is our starting SS for 2015 I'd rather go with Drew, at least he has some pop. JMO.
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...based on what?...certainly not last year...in fact Gregorius hit HRs at a higher rate than Drew last year...DiDi is still very young and is still learning...Drew has zero upside.
...why pay Drew millions when Gregorius cost peanuts?
 
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Rick2583 said:
A light hitting so-so fielding SS with no power for a pitcher with a good future. ANOTHER desperate foolish move by Cashman. We're better off with Drew.
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We must be reading different scouting reports. The guy is sub-30 years old! Hasn't had enough time in the bigs but is said to draw walks, low strike out rate, lefty bat with potential pop (6HRS in 229 plate appearances last year). They only had to give up Greene, leaving the wallet untouched. I hope there's a big arm not far behind.
 
bern_baby_bern said:
We must be reading different scouting reports. The guy is sub-30 years old! Hasn't had enough time in the bigs but is said to draw walks, low strike out rate, lefty bat with potential pop (6HRS in 229 plate appearances last year). They only had to give up Greene, leaving the wallet untouched. I hope there's a big arm not far behind.
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Hey Bern, don't get me wrong I hope Didi brings a lot to the table, I just don't see it so far. But hell in this case I wouldn't mind being wrong. And like Ron said, at least he'll be a lot cheaper then our other alternatives.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Greene really has not a large enough sample size to tell one way or another what he is. But he's also been erratic, has also been lit up in a few games, walks way too many batters, and is not very good fielding his position.
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Yeah but isn't this to be expected from a rookie making his first 14 starts?
He was pounded in his last start of the season by Baltimore, 3.2 IP , 6 ER,
I know all of the games count, but if you take away his last start of the season, his 2014 ERA was 3.24

He has also beaten:
Cleve, 6 IP, 2 ER,
Balt 7.1 IP, 0 ER
Det 8 IP, 0 ER
@TB 6 IP, 2 ER
@ Det 7 IP, 2 ER
Balt 5.1 IP, 2 ER
Tor 6.2 IP, 0 ER

I'm just hoping Didi blossoms into a pleasant surprise.
And I have to expect, by giving up Greene, Cashman must have other plans for the pitching staff.
 
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Yeah but isn't this to be expected from a rookie making his first 14 starts?
He was pounded in his last start of the season by Baltimore, 3.2 IP , 6 ER,
I know all of the games count, but if you take away his last start of the season, his 2014 ERA was 3.24

He has also beaten:
Cleve, 6 IP, 2 ER,
Balt 7.1 IP, 0 ER
Det 8 IP, 0 ER
@TB 6 IP, 2 ER
@ Det 7 IP, 2 ER
Balt 5.1 IP, 2 ER
Tor 6.2 IP, 0 ER

I'm just hoping Didi blossoms into a pleasant surprise.
And I have to expect, by giving up Greene, Cashman must have other plans for the pitching staff.
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I also liked what I saw from the kid. If he really blossoms in Detroit & Didi is hitting in the 230s or 240s, I'm gonna be one really pissed off Yankee fan.
 
bern_baby_bern said:
We must be reading different scouting reports. The guy is sub-30 years old! Hasn't had enough time in the bigs but is said to draw walks, low strike out rate, lefty bat with potential pop (6HRS in 229 plate appearances last year). They only had to give up Greene, leaving the wallet untouched. I hope there's a big arm not far behind.
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Yep, and someone must also have problems with simple math.
Didi's career AB/K ratio - SO FAR - translates into approx 100 Ks over a full season,
And his numbers vs LHP are feeble - .184 / .257 /.233

As for Greene - 26 yrs old - 14 starts as a rookie:
3.78 ERA, 9 K per 9 IP
...his last start of the season inflated his ERA (3.2 IP 6 ER)
Otherwise it was 3.24

He has also beaten:
Cleve, 6 IP, 2 ER,
Balt 7.1 IP, 0 ER
Det 8 IP, 0 ER
@TB 6 IP, 2 ER
@ Det 7 IP, 2 ER
Balt 5.1 IP, 2 ER
Tor 6.2 IP, 0 ER

I'm not so sure we should say... "they only had to give up Greene" .. - after just 14 starts and looking at the above numbers.....
....especially for what Gregorius has shown in parts of 2 seasons..

Both are still young incomplete players - we'll see how it works out.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...based on what?...certainly not last year...in fact Gregorius hit HRs at a higher rate than Drew last year...DiDi is still very young and is still learning...Drew has zero upside.
...why pay Drew millions when Gregorius cost peanuts?
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I can't argue with that logic. The Yanx have nothing to lose in acquiring Gregorius. If he fails, oh well, all we lost was a Pitcher I liked, but was not dominating. I didn't see Fireworks, when Greene took to the mound. We could of kept him or traded him, and this I believe is the best option. He can play good defense.

I see this as a set up to bring Scherzer into the Bronx....! I'm not dreaming either. Would one rather have Greene and Drew or Gregorius and Greene......its really that simple...!
 
Mattingly23NY said:
I can't argue with that logic. The Yanx have nothing to lose in acquiring Gregorius. If he fails, oh well, all we lost was a Pitcher I liked, but was not dominating. I didn't see Fireworks, when Greene took to the mound. We could of kept him or traded him, and this I believe is the best option. He can play good defense.

I see this as a set up to bring Scherzer into the Bronx....! I'm not dreaming either. Would one rather have Greene and Drew or Gregorius and Greene......its really that simple...!
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Unless Greene progresses into a solid # 3 (?) ML starter...and we get to watch him pitch for Detroit in the playoffs.

Of course all is forgiven if Gregorius turns into a nice .270 hitting SS with 10-15 HRs and plays excellent defense. lol
By the way, what has kept him from playing/being a full time SS?
 
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Earlier I posted that when Greene arrived at Spring Training someone needed so work with him on infield plays. And yep he had some shaky rookie moments. But I liked his attitude and thought he be improving as he went along. Nova, Subparthia and Tanaka to some degree are going to be on shaky ground. Cannot see the Yankees paying more big dollars to one of the "big three" and was hoping they'd resign McCarthy. So from that point I don't understand why they'd let Greene go unless someone in the front office is privy to a huge secret. On the other hand as pointed out I can appreciate the youth & economy of Gregorius over Drew whom I can't stand so it would free up money for other moves. Now that I have calmed down I will take a wait and see attitude. After the Montero Pineda trade it finally evolved that the Yankees got the best part of that deal lets hope this one goes that way as well. Whats done is done.
 
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