Yay for PelosiCare!

[maxiep]

barfo is playing a cute little game. He takes this approach when he can't answer a question.

 

[barfo]

barfo is playing a cute little game. He takes this approach when he can't answer a question.

Dude, I'm the one asking the question here. Blazerboy said we should take more time, and I asked how much time. In the three posts following, he fails to answer that question, despite my repeating it for him.

And you accuse me of avoiding a question? Try to pay a little more attention.

barfo

 

[bodyman5001]

Not that I'm disputing his facts, but it's hard to totally take him seriously with his other credentials...

Senior Staff Economist for President George H. W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors.

Director of Domestic and Economic Policy for the John McCain presidential campaign

Must be a real retard huh?

 

[barfo]

Why is it not about what you want to optimize? Should I just assume that you will take whatever Obama and Pelosi tell you that you need and assume it is optimized? If not, then you should be asking yourself the same question you are asking me.

I already know my answer, that's why I asked for your answer.

As for how much time it would take, it depends on what is considered completion (it will likely never be "complete"). However, I would like to see exploration of incremental changes, or state level legislation, which could be done more quickly than these multi-trillion dollar bills.

Ok. I'd argue that this bill is incremental, but I suppose it is possible to be even more incremental. On the other hand, I'd like to see the problem fixed before the sun goes supernova, so too much incrementalism isn't really a good thing.

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Could there be a worse time for this kind of legislation. People are hurting finacially and the mood of the nation is fragile.

If I understand it right, this is legislation to be implemented in the future. Still, the psychlogical aspect it has and the tension I see this raising . . . is now the time for this?

The administration has rushed thing in the past. I thought it was justified given the urgency of the matter (US and world economy was hanging in the balance). But this time . . . can't we form a no nonsense subcomittee (chaired or supervised by Clinton) to take on the impossible task of healthcare and come up (after letting all the ideas marinate for a year or two . . . or after the 2nd term) with a well thought out (albeit painful) answer to all this.

I haven't been following it and maybe this has all happened, but from an outside non-following politics perspective, it all feels very forced and rushed right now. I personally hope enough attention is being paid to the Middle East and keeping competitive in the world economy.

 

[barfo]

Could there be a worse time for this kind of legislation. People are hurting finacially and the mood of the nation is fragile.

If I understand it right, this is legislation to be implemented in the future. Still, the psychlogical aspect it has and the tension I see this raising . . . is now the time for this?

The administration has rushed thing in the past. I thought it was justified given the urgency of the matter (US and world economy was hanging in the balance). But this time . . . can't we form a no nonsense subcomittee (chaired or supervised by Clinton) to take on the impossible task of healthcare and come up with a well thought out (albeit painful) answer to all this.

I haven't been following it and maybe this has all happened, but from an outside non-following politics perspective, it all feels very forced and rushed right now. I personally hope enough attention is being paid to the Middle East and keeping competitive in the world economy.

Congress has been debating and modifying these bills for months now. Before that, years of groundwork were done. Our senator, Ron Wyden, has been working seriously on healthcare reform for many years now. Plenty of others have too. And let's not forget that when we tried this the last time ("HillaryCare"), that was sixteen years ago. It's not that no one was thinking about it for the past sixteen years. It's that the Republican majority didn't want to deal with it, so actually doing something about it had to wait until now.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Dude, I'm the one asking the question here. Blazerboy said we should take more time, and I asked how much time. In the three posts following, he fails to answer that question, despite my repeating it for him.

And you accuse me of avoiding a question? Try to pay a little more attention.

barfo

No, I'm accusing you of playing a silly little game. Try to pay a little more attention.

 

[barfo]

No, I'm accusing you of playing a silly little game. Try to pay a little more attention.

Yes, the silly little game called "asking people what they meant by what they posted".
Whereas you aren't playing any silly little games, are you?

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Yes, the silly little game called "asking people what they meant by what they posted".
Whereas you aren't playing any silly little games, are you?

barfo

I think there's a pretty clear record on who posts seriously and who tries to avoid issues by being clever. I'm sorry if you don't like me identifying and calling out your tactic.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think there's a pretty clear record on who posts seriously and who tries to avoid issues by being clever. I'm sorry if you don't like me identifying and calling out your tactic.

The last time someone challenged a mod on here like that they were given a week long vacation from this place.

 

[barfo]

I think there's a pretty clear record on who posts seriously and who tries to avoid issues by being clever. I'm sorry if you don't like me identifying and calling out your tactic.

Yeah, I think there is. Your posts like "boring" "sad" and "Yawn" are real serious stuff, all right.
But, I will admit, they aren't clever. So you've at least got that going for you.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

Would someone like to tell me what the Pelosi Bill fixes? Heck, it's tough for me to even figure out one area that it doesn't make worse.

This bill is going to be forced through to permanently change the debate in America. Congrats to the Democrats who vote for this steaming pile of legislation; they're proudly putting party before country.

 

[maxiep]

Yeah, I think there is. Your posts like "boring" "sad" and "Yawn" are real serious stuff, all right.
But, I will admit, they aren't clever. So you've at least got that going for you.

barfo

You confuse being clever with being intelligent or logical. You may be the first, but I've seen scant evidence of the latter two. And if you can't figure out I was responding to a troll with those throwaway posts, then you've only added another data point to my supposition.

 

[barfo]

You confuse being clever with being intelligent or logical. You may be the first, but I've seen scant evidence of the latter two. And if you can't figure out I was responding to a troll with those throwaway posts, then you've only added another data point to my supposition.

I may be clever? Why, that's high praise from you, maxiep.

I'll sleep soundly tonight, knowing that I have a special place in your heart.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

I may be clever? Why, that's high praise from you, maxiep.

I'll sleep soundly tonight, knowing that I have a special place in your heart.

barfo

Nah. I think of you about as often as a fly that buzzes around my head. Sure, it's annoying when it's right there, but the minute it's swatted away it's forgotten.

 

[barfo]

Nah. I think of you about as often as a fly that buzzes around my head. Sure, it's annoying when it's right there, but the minute it's swatted away it's forgotten.

I'm right here, 24/7, buzzing and buzzing. I'm gonna lay eggs in your ear when you go to sleep.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

I'm right here, 24/7, buzzing and buzzing. I'm gonna lay eggs in your ear when you go to sleep.

barfo

I'm glad you're content being a gimmick poster. Why you happen to be obsessed with me is too disturbing to be considered.

 

[barfo]

I'm glad you're content being a gimmick poster.

I'm content with who I am. Are you?

Why you happen to be obsessed with me is too disturbing to be considered.

Who called who out here? Here's your first post in this thread:

barfo is playing a cute little game. He takes this approach when he can't answer a question.

Yeah, I think it's pretty clear who's obsessed.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

I'm content with who I am. Are you?

I am. Then again, I'm not a gimmick poster.

Who called who out here? Here's your first post in this thread:



Yeah, I think it's pretty clear who's obsessed.

barfo

Hmm, I'm pretty sure that wasn't my first post in this thread. That being said, I'd been down that road to nowhere with you in your pathetic attempts to not address the issues brought up in the root post of the thread or to answer peoples concerns with anything other than a throwaway line. It was a warning to BB30 that there was a fly buzzing around his head; it had little to do with you other than you were the fly. And one doesn't obsess over a fly.

 

[barfo]

I am. Then again, I'm not a gimmick poster.

You are, actually. Your gimmick is being dismissive without responding to the actual argument.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Hmm, I'm pretty sure that wasn't my first post in this thread.

You are right about that of course; I didn't look back far enough.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I am. Then again, I'm not a gimmick poster.





Hmm, I'm pretty sure that wasn't my first post in this thread. That being said, I'd been down that road to nowhere with you in your pathetic attempts to not address the issues brought up in the root post of the thread or to answer peoples concerns with anything other than a throwaway line. It was a warning to BB30 that there was a fly buzzing around his head; it had little to do with you other than you were the fly. And one doesn't obsess over a fly.

You are, actually. Your gimmick is being dismissive without responding to the actual argument.

barfo

I hate it when the grownups fight...

 

[barfo]

I hate it when the grownups fight...

We thought you were asleep. We were just pretending, honey. Practicing for a play.

barfo

 

[maxiep]

You are, actually. Your gimmick is being dismissive without responding to the actual argument.

barfo

Actually, I started the thread, so didn't I actually begin the discussion? I also tried to bring this thread back to the topic at hand, but of course, that topic doesn't interest you as much as a little pissing match which you hope will serve as a distraction from the matter of the Left trying to destroy the American health care system.

 

[maxiep]

I hate it when the grownups fight...

No one who knows me considers me a grown up.

 

[barfo]

Actually, I started the thread, so didn't I actually begin the discussion? I also tried to bring this thread back to the topic at hand, but of course, that topic doesn't interest you as much as a little pissing match which you hope will serve as a distraction from the matter of the Left trying to destroy the American health care system.

You started the little pissing match as well, though. It's true that I enjoy pissing matches every bit as much as you do, but at least I don't have some cockamamie conspiracy theory about why you engage in pissing matches.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We thought you were asleep. We were just pretending, honey. Practicing for a play.

barfo

No one who knows me considers me a grown up.

LOL!! Whew, I'm glad both of you took that well. I was actually a little nervous about posting that. Now both of you give me some rep points then kiss and make up.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You started the little pissing match as well, though. It's true that I enjoy pissing matches every bit as much as you do, but at least I don't have some cockamamie conspiracy theory about why you engage in pissing matches.

barfo

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[barfo]

I always liked Mr. Zappa. Too bad he died young-ish.

barfo

 

[barfo]

The closest thing to immortality is a government program.

Well, everyone gets to define immorality for themselves, so that can be your definition if you want it to be.

I'm not sure what's funnier here - the fact that I can't read, or that I thought it was entirely in character that you defined immorality that way, or that no one noticed the discrepancy.

barfo