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GrandKenyon6

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Why does Kiki love tall foreign players that suck?

Is there a difference between Jianlian and Nikoloz Tskitishvili? Both of them are foreign 7'0 shooters. Yi was drafted 6th while Tskitishvili was drafted 5th. Both were compared to Dirk. Both are terrible players. They sound pretty similar.

Can there be a more useless player than Yi? Other than Sean Williams of course.

Can there? This guy is an abysmal basketball player. He is the worst defender I have ever seen at any position. He's got a great looking jumper, I'll give him that, but as of now, he's a completely useless player. He doesn't defend, doesn't rebound, doesn't hustle at all, cannot create his own shot, and cannot attack the rim and finish. To think that this guy has star potential is absolutely absurd. This is not an over-reaction to one game. Practically every time I've seen him play this season, he's been a major liability on the basketball court. I hope this guy turns out to be a decent player, but I just don't see it. There is no doubt that he has talent, but it doesn't appear that he has the mental toughness to be a successful player. Maybe that comes with age, but I'm skeptical.

Anderson and Boone need to be given more playing time and hopefully Najera can salvage his season. The less minutes for Yi, the better. At least when Anderson's shot isn't falling he can contribute in other ways. He hustles, fights for rebounds, and isn't afraid to attack the basket. Yi could learn a thing or two from him.

MVP 30/20 Anderson for the majority of the minutes!
 
Just you know, Yi actually rebounds at a better rate than Aldridge.
 
I was thinking, instead of playing time for Yi to try and develop him, maybe the Nets should focus on developing him in practice. Dedicate him to a LOT of practice time and work on strength training, dribbling, shooting, develop a face up and post game. Forget playing him much for now. Don't even take him on road games. Just work on expanding his skill set and understanding of the game. Would that be a better way to develop him than throwing him out there in game situations when his game is so lacking?

Hire a special big man coach for him?

Do the Nets even have a special big man coach considering all the big guys they are trying to develop?
 
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I see Yi more as dollars than skill. I would also rather see Anderson play but I don't mind that we have Yi because we got him in a salary dump.
 
Universe said:
I see Yi more as dollars than skill. I would also rather see Anderson play but I don't mind that we have Yi because we got him in a salary dump.
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But it wasn't just a salary dump. The trade was made in large part because of Yi's 'potential'.
 
killa kadafi191 said:
lets see who will be in the nba longer.

How about asking GM's who would they choose Aldridge or Yi
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Aldridge every time. Although Yi is a better rebounder, I'm almost positive Aldridge is better than him at everything else
 
wow, this is like a timewarp from Real GM Bucksforum last year. Someone please go and cut and paste them here.

And that crappy writer Simmons from espn.
 
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YI isn't as bad as a lot of you are making him out to be. He's better than Anderson at this point (on offense), I don't know how thats even debatable, and Anderson's defense isn't anything to spectacular to warrant having him starting over YI. Both commit a lot of stupid fouls, but it's part of learning and growing in the NBA.

Anderson does give a lot of hustle and does come up with a lot of rebounds on some nights, but that because his role differs from YI's role. YI is strictly a jumpshooter at this point of his career, and that's through no choice of his own. He's there to create spacing for Lopez to operate down low.

A lot of you are complaining about Yi's defense, but lets face it, Anderson's isn't any better. Harrington destroyed both during the Knicks game, and Milsap ate Anderson alive on the glass last night, not to mention guys like Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah used the likes of Anderson and Boone to earn more playing time in their rotations. At least YI is somewhat more competent as a post defender where he's actually had some success. Give YI more time, he's still learning the language and is still learning the defense. He's 10x more talented than Anderson, and isn't worth breaking his confidence by benching him just because he's had a bad stretch of games. It's not like the Nets have aspirations of making it to the ECF, so why not take the time to properly develop Yi with playing time, rather than outright benching him in favor of a guy, who's less talented and who's potential only maxes at role player.

I've been actually following the Nets this season (much more than last year), so yes I did get to see these things...
 
Aifan3 said:
YI isn't as bad as a lot of you are making him out to be. He's better than Anderson at this point (on offense), I don't know how thats even debatable, and Anderson's defense isn't anything to spectacular to warrant having him starting over YI. Both commit a lot of stupid fouls, but it's part of learning and growing in the NBA.
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Yi may have a prettier looking jump shot than Ryan, but he doesn't do anything else better on offense. Ryan has shown some ability to put the ball on the floor and drive, spin and put up a floater in the lane. He can mix it up under the basket a little and uses pump fakes to get his shot off. And the times he gets his shot blocked he'll continue to go up strong again not backing down. And while Ryan is not great on D he's not as bad as Yi.

Yi has had a consistent starters role playing with Devin and Vince while Ryan has had to compete to get into the rotation with his play. Ryan has shown he's more deserving with a shot at the starting role than Yi and he deserves a couple of games over Yi to see what he can do as a starter and play with Devin and Vince. Ryan has shown he will try to make things happen while Yi not much.
 
Aifan3 said:
YI isn't as bad as a lot of you are making him out to be. He's better than Anderson at this point (on offense), I don't know how thats even debatable, and Anderson's defense isn't anything to spectacular to warrant having him starting over YI. Both commit a lot of stupid fouls, but it's part of learning and growing in the NBA.

Anderson does give a lot of hustle and does come up with a lot of rebounds on some nights, but that because his role differs from YI's role. YI is strictly a jumpshooter at this point of his career, and that's through no choice of his own. He's there to create spacing for Lopez to operate down low.

A lot of you are complaining about Yi's defense, but lets face it, Anderson's isn't any better. Harrington destroyed both during the Knicks game, and Milsap ate Anderson alive on the glass last night, not to mention guys like Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah used the likes of Anderson and Boone to earn more playing time in their rotations. At least YI is somewhat more competent as a post defender where he's actually had some success. Give YI more time, he's still learning the language and is still learning the defense. He's 10x more talented than Anderson, and isn't worth breaking his confidence by benching him just because he's had a bad stretch of games. It's not like the Nets have aspirations of making it to the ECF, so why not take the time to properly develop Yi with playing time, rather than outright benching him in favor of a guy, who's less talented and who's potential only maxes at role player.

I've been actually following the Nets this season (much more than last year), so yes I did get to see these things...
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Yi is a better shooter than Anderson. That's the only aspect of the game he has an advantage in. Yi is unable and unwilling to make plays whereas Anderson can create and make some plays himself. Anderson isn't a very good defender, but the effort and hustle is there and at this point he is still a far superior defender to Yi. Anderson's potential is only that of a role player, but what do you think Yi's potential is? Not benching Yi because it might hurt his confidence or hinder his development is a flawed idea. The players that give you the best chance to win should always play. The way to develop players is to make them earn their playing time.
 
xflavioVC15x said:
Yi is 90% of the reason we loose. Always getting beat to the basket and making weak fouls allowing his opponent to make and1 every time they are down low.
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I have to correct you sir, Yi is 100% the reason you lose games. Until you get Yi off the Nets roster, you'll definitely be losing games this season. I can guarantee you'll lose games every season with Yi on your roster.

Fact #2, breathing can kill you. Fact is anyone that ever died had breathed.
 
GrandKenyon6 said:
Yi is a better shooter than Anderson. That's the only aspect of the game he has an advantage in. Yi is unable and unwilling to make plays whereas Anderson can create and make some plays himself. Anderson isn't a very good defender, but the effort and hustle is there and at this point he is still a far superior defender to Yi. Anderson's potential is only that of a role player, but what do you think Yi's potential is? Not benching Yi because it might hurt his confidence or hinder his development is a flawed idea. The players that give you the best chance to win should always play. The way to develop players is to make them earn their playing time.
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To add further, if Yi were a true champion he would take the demotion as a challenge and make him stronger to regain his "given" starting position. If he just sits there and sulks he then becomes a Shane Williams type. In my book that makes him a loser. In fact Ryan Anderson was taken out of the rotation for a few games by coach Frank to make a statement to him. Being the champion he's used to be he took it to heart and improved his game. Yi has had his chance in the sun and squandered it with poor performance after poor performance and has nobody to blame but himself. Thats what a true champion would do, not blame the coach, other players , etc.

If he is the real deal he will accept his demotion, and realize he still has a lot to learn. If he cries like a little girl and has his feeling hurt he's no champion let alone a man. So enough of this hurt his confidence retarded argument its just not valid....

oh yeah, go nets!!! ( not just go Yi like some of the fans on this board....)
 
GrandKenyon6 said:
But it wasn't just a salary dump. The trade was made in large part because of Yi's 'potential'.
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In which we did not waste a pick on.

That is the burden we take when looking for these 'fallen' basketball players. Some just do not have talent.
 
The kid is 21. His two 20+ point performances were better all-around game than any game Lopez or Anderson has played.

Why not just be happy that the Nets have three players, all over 6'10" and all younger than 22, who can explode for 20 and 10 on any given night and who will get better. Isn't THAT enough?
 
xflavioVC15x said:
Yi is 90% of the reason we loose. Always getting beat to the basket and making weak fouls allowing his opponent to make and1 every time they are down low.
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Yi is one of many reasons why the Nets lose games. He is one of the league's worst defenders and limited offensively, but he isn't 90% the reason why the Nets lose games. The perimeter defense is also porous: New Jersey is second to worst in opponent’s 3P%. Basically the entire roster is mostly made up of subpar defenders.
 
NetIncome said:
The kid is 21. His two 20+ point performances were better all-around game than any game Lopez or Anderson has played.

Why not just be happy that the Nets have three players, all over 6'10" and all younger than 22, who can explode for 20 and 10 on any given night and who will get better. Isn't THAT enough?
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there has to be a fall guy when teams are losing. Even if said player only avergaes less than 20 minutes in the past losses.
 
NetIncome said:
The kid is 21. His two 20+ point performances were better all-around game than any game Lopez or Anderson has played.

Why not just be happy that the Nets have three players, all over 6'10" and all younger than 22, who can explode for 20 and 10 on any given night and who will get better. Isn't THAT enough?
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He is 24...

Or we don't know for sure...
But you can not use "he is 21" in arguements... :)


Actually I think, Yi is a very athletic, talented and skilled player. But he really needs to become a lot more aggressive going to the basket, become a more aggressive defender, and he also needs better decision making skills.

basically it's easy to see that 90% of his problems are mental.
VC and Devin need to sit down and talk to him...
They can really make him a better player, if Yi is ready for that.

Anderson is also talented and skilled, but he doesn't have size and athleticism.
Obviously, Nets need to push Yi in front of him.
 
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