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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk
Please discuss.</div>

0 league championships, 0 conference championships, 0 division championships.
</div>

Well, if you put 0 divisional championships, the rest is redundant and logically impossible.


I do not like green eggs and ham...
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Correct! You will receive one gold star at the top of your paper for that astute observation!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk
Please discuss.</div>

0 league championships, 0 conference championships, 0 division championships.
</div>

Well, if you put 0 divisional championships, the rest is redundant and logically impossible.
I do not like green eggs and ham...
</div>

Correct! You will receive one gold star at the top of your paper for that astute observation!
</div>

 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So... we all know the incredible potential and skill set Yi possesses. However, his stats for the rookie season were not spectacular and I think most fans were slightly disappointed. What do you guys think will be Yi's peak and which player in the NBA right now will most likely serve as an example of where he is headed?

In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk</div>

Yi is whatever he wants to be. If he only has the motivation and drive to become a 15 ppg and 7 rpg player then that's what he'll be. If he wants to achieve more than he is going to have to work harder, play harder and impose his will on the game a lot more. We'll find out over the next year or two whether he has the drive and determination to become a great player or not. However I just don't understand why people feel the need to put a cap on what he can do. Remember it took Yao 4 years to average over 20 ppg. There was a stage where I wonder if he ever would but he did it. Yi has the skill and potential as I've already explain it another thread. I mean how many players you know that can execute a play as smoothly as this against Lamar Odom?

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Unfortunately we just don't see enough of this kind of stuff from Yi. He is just going to have to figure out how to use his skills to impact the game. Right now he looks like a young player who is just happy to be in the NBA. One day he is going to have to realize just being in the NBA is not enough. Making a good move or two per game is not enough. He is going to have to do it over and over in a game for his team to win.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 24 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk
Please discuss.</div>

0 league championships, 0 conference championships, 0 division championships.
</div>

Well, if you put 0 divisional championships, the rest is redundant and logically impossible.
I do not like green eggs and ham...
</div>

Correct! You will receive one gold star at the top of your paper for that astute observation!
</div>


</div>

Who is blonde? You can get into the playoffs without winning your division. Therefore, you can win the conference without winning your division.

2008 Atlantic Division:
z-Boston
x-Toronto
x-Philadelphia
New Jersey
New York
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 24 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk
Please discuss.</div>

0 league championships, 0 conference championships, 0 division championships.
</div>

Well, if you put 0 divisional championships, the rest is redundant and logically impossible.
I do not like green eggs and ham...
</div>

Correct! You will receive one gold star at the top of your paper for that astute observation!
</div>


</div>

Who is blonde? You can get into the playoffs without winning your division. Therefore, you can win the conference without winning your division.

2008 Atlantic Division:
z-Boston
x-Toronto
x-Philadelphia
New Jersey
New York
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 24 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk
Please discuss.</div>

0 league championships, 0 conference championships, 0 division championships.
</div>

Well, if you put 0 divisional championships, the rest is redundant and logically impossible.
I do not like green eggs and ham...
</div>

Correct! You will receive one gold star at the top of your paper for that astute observation!
</div>


</div>

Who is blonde? You can get into the playoffs without winning your division. Therefore, you can win the conference without winning your division.

2008 Atlantic Division:
z-Boston
x-Toronto
x-Philadelphia
New Jersey
New York
</div>

Well played man... well played. but Nets can still win the Flint Tropics Megabowl!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 24 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk
Please discuss.</div>

0 league championships, 0 conference championships, 0 division championships.
</div>

Well, if you put 0 divisional championships, the rest is redundant and logically impossible.
I do not like green eggs and ham...
</div>

Correct! You will receive one gold star at the top of your paper for that astute observation!
</div>


</div>

Who is blonde? You can get into the playoffs without winning your division. Therefore, you can win the conference without winning your division.

2008 Atlantic Division:
z-Boston
x-Toronto
x-Philadelphia
New Jersey
New York
</div>

Well played man... well played. but Nets can still win the Flint Tropics Megabowl!
</div>

Ha indeed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Jul 24 2008, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well played man... well played. but Nets can still win the Flint Tropics Megabowl!</div>

I will be pulling for the Nets in that game.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 23 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So... we all know the incredible potential and skill set Yi possesses. However, his stats for the rookie season were not spectacular and I think most fans were slightly disappointed. What do you guys think will be Yi's peak and which player in the NBA right now will most likely serve as an example of where he is headed?

In my opinion, I think Yi will peak as a:

15pt
7rb
2blk</div>

Yi is whatever he wants to be. If he only has the motivation and drive to become a 15 ppg and 7 rpg player then that's what he'll be. If he wants to achieve more than he is going to have to work harder, play harder and impose his will on the game a lot more. We'll find out over the next year or two whether he has the drive and determination to become a great player or not. However I just don't understand why people feel the need to put a cap on what he can do. Remember it took Yao 4 years to average over 20 ppg. There was a stage where I wonder if he ever would but he did it. Yi has the skill and potential as I've already explain it another thread. I mean how many players you know that can execute a play as smoothly as this against Lamar Odom?

20080112_af29089e78545abf76fddXhimkqGYvVY.gif


Unfortunately we just don't see enough of this kind of stuff from Yi. He is just going to have to figure out how to use his skills to impact the game. Right now he looks like a young player who is just happy to be in the NBA. One day he is going to have to realize just being in the NBA is not enough. Making a good move or two per game is not enough. He is going to have to do it over and over in a game for his team to win.
</div>

Understand that Yao had an average of 13pts in his first season. Yi had an mere 8pts average. So Yao basically grew by 7pts in a span of four years, this means Yi's 8+7=15pts, exactly the amount I predicted.
 
Why don't we just wait and see. I don't think he'll be Dirk, but I think he'll be way better than Vlad Rad because I think he's much more athletic but not as good a shooter. SOME Low Post moves coupled with a good jumper and decent athleticism? Let's just say he'll be the next Yi, :-D.
 
I see him as the next AL Harrington, I guy who can do both damage from the outside and inside but has little defense.
 
Ya lets just wait and see... but im excited to see what he can contribute to the nets
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jul 24 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Similar to Mikki Moore?</div>
A more skilled, fan-appealing Moore. With less cool hair and watch.
 
Yi's going to be better than Moore. I think 18-7 could be career high averages by the time it's all said and done, and that is pretty damn good. I think his versatility will be to his advantage, he can drive by slower big guys and he can post up smaller guys. Feathery touch, great understanding of the game itself.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 24 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Understand that Yao had an average of 13pts in his first season. Yi had an mere 8pts average. So Yao basically grew by 7pts in a span of four years, this means Yi's 8+7=15pts, exactly the amount I predicted.
</div>

Sorry bro, I don't know how you passed your math class but Yao in his fourth year average 22.3 ppg, that's +8.8. In his fifth and best career scoring season so far he averaged 25.0ppg that's +11.5. So YOU LOSE bro.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 24 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Understand that Yao had an average of 13pts in his first season. Yi had an mere 8pts average. So Yao basically grew by 7pts in a span of four years, this means Yi's 8+7=15pts, exactly the amount I predicted.
</div>

Sorry bro, I don't know how you passed your math class but Yao in his fourth year average 22.3 ppg, that's +8.8. In his fifth and best career scoring season so far he averaged 25.0ppg that's +11.5. So YOU LOSE bro.
</div>
Ironic, no?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 24 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 24 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Understand that Yao had an average of 13pts in his first season. Yi had an mere 8pts average. So Yao basically grew by 7pts in a span of four years, this means Yi's 8+7=15pts, exactly the amount I predicted.
</div>

Sorry bro, I don't know how you passed your math class but Yao in his fourth year average 22.3 ppg, that's +8.8. In his fifth and best career scoring season so far he averaged 25.0ppg that's +11.5. So YOU LOSE bro.
</div>
Ironic, no?
</div>

Really? How?

BTW Yao averaged 13.5 ppg in his rookie year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mingya01.html

You may want to take that into consideration!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 24 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 24 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Understand that Yao had an average of 13pts in his first season. Yi had an mere 8pts average. So Yao basically grew by 7pts in a span of four years, this means Yi's 8+7=15pts, exactly the amount I predicted.
</div>

Sorry bro, I don't know how you passed your math class but Yao in his fourth year average 22.3 ppg, that's +8.8. In his fifth and best career scoring season so far he averaged 25.0ppg that's +11.5. So YOU LOSE bro.
</div>
Ironic, no?
</div>

Really? How?

BTW Yao averaged 13.5 ppg in his rookie year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mingya01.html

You may want to take that into consideration!
</div>Chinese dude who sucks at math.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 24 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 24 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 24 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Understand that Yao had an average of 13pts in his first season. Yi had an mere 8pts average. So Yao basically grew by 7pts in a span of four years, this means Yi's 8+7=15pts, exactly the amount I predicted.
</div>

Sorry bro, I don't know how you passed your math class but Yao in his fourth year average 22.3 ppg, that's +8.8. In his fifth and best career scoring season so far he averaged 25.0ppg that's +11.5. So YOU LOSE bro.
</div>
Ironic, no?
</div>

Really? How?

BTW Yao averaged 13.5 ppg in his rookie year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mingya01.html

You may want to take that into consideration!
</div>Chinese dude who sucks at math.
</div>

I see Yi averaging 12 points and 6.5 rebounds in 30 minutes

Same as his Decembers (his best month) stats from last year.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/yi_jianlian/season_splits.html
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tang Man @ Jul 24 2008, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 24 2008, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Understand that Yao had an average of 13pts in his first season. Yi had an mere 8pts average. So Yao basically grew by 7pts in a span of four years, this means Yi's 8+7=15pts, exactly the amount I predicted.
</div>

Sorry bro, I don't know how you passed your math class but Yao in his fourth year average 22.3 ppg, that's +8.8. In his fifth and best career scoring season so far he averaged 25.0ppg that's +11.5. So YOU LOSE bro.
</div>

Hahaha. Think through your posts before you argue. In your original statement you quoted Yao as averaging 20pts in his fourth year. Don't change it to 22.3 now. I based my calculations off of your original statement.
 
Why can't Yi be a 20/10 guy? It's his 2nd year and he's only 20. Mo Williams and Redd froze him out last year. This year, with 25+ minutes per game and a team willing to share the ball, he can do 15/8 no problem.
 
How could anybody ever compare Yi with the loser Radmanovic??? How??
Some of you even reckon Radmanovic got a better shooting than Yi....... How????
A few of you also pointed out that Yi got shytty D.... after his 1st season as a rook and averaging almost a block per game... How????
 
I honestly never understood the huge difference between being a 22 year old and a 20 year old in the league and how one age makes you hit your potential wall while the other age means the sky's the limit. Sure it's two years but everyone learns differently, enters their primes at different time. It actually really pisses me off. I think if you just take yearly progressions of players, it would be a much better estimate as opposed to "this guy's ceiling" or blah blah. People are constantly adjusting their game, see Michael Jordan, Vince Carter, as examples. It's how they adapt. I personally think Yi has a great chance at adapting to the US game because he has a mean streak and is not a push over. I'm glad he called out Michael Redd and Mo Williams for being ball hogs. That means he wants the damn ball. I think he's got the mentality, now he's just gotta put it together, and if he's 20, 22, 50, whatever, let's let him play in our uptempo, shooter friendly system, and see how it goes, :-D.

WOO......
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Uneek @ Jul 25 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How could anybody ever compare Yi with the loser Radmanovic??? How??
Some of you even reckon Radmanovic got a better shooting than Yi....... How????
A few of you also pointed out that Yi got shytty D.... after his 1st season as a rook and averaging almost a block per game... How????</div>

Blocks doesn't necessarily mean you play good D, ala, Sean Williams getting 8 blocks in a game, but still being one of the worst team defenders on the Nets. Also, all Vlad Rad is good for IS his jumper, because I honestly think he's one of the better jump shooters in the league. Therefore, saying Vlad Rad's jumper is better isn't an insult, it's just a comparison. If anything, you could say it's a complement to even be compared.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingd15 @ Jul 25 2008, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Uneek @ Jul 25 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How could anybody ever compare Yi with the loser Radmanovic??? How??
Some of you even reckon Radmanovic got a better shooting than Yi....... How????
A few of you also pointed out that Yi got shytty D.... after his 1st season as a rook and averaging almost a block per game... How????</div>

Blocks doesn't necessarily mean you play good D, ala, Sean Williams getting 8 blocks in a game, but still being one of the worst team defenders on the Nets. Also, all Vlad Rad is good for IS his jumper, because I honestly think he's one of the better jump shooters in the league. Therefore, saying Vlad Rad's jumper is better isn't an insult, it's just a comparison. If anything, you could say it's a complement to even be compared.
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Yeah right... catch that up...

I totally agree with your concept on D... i am not saying Yi is a good defender yet... but just put his age issue (BS) and all the other crap aside and just look at the kid objectively... 7ft.. can or might be able to shoot like Radmanovic..
... athletic.... mobile.... quick... you just have to simply give it up for the figures...

By saying that... after Yi's rookie year i think it is fair to say from the situation he was under (Bucks), he has done quite well and shown lots of potential as well as weakness. Now it's up to him who he wanted to be and how NJ wants him to turn out like... God please bless Frank.....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AhLian @ Jul 24 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hahaha. Think through your posts before you argue. In your original statement you quoted Yao as averaging 20pts in his fourth year. Don't change it to 22.3 now. I based my calculations off of your original statement.</div>

ha ha it would help if you would learn to read also. I said OVER 20 ppg. Is 22.3 ppg not OVER 20 ppg???
 
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