You guys like Collins?

[riverman]

Nurk is our franchise starting center ....Ed is our backup..Chief is our starting power forward ...Zach is our bench power forward..to me it doesn't matter that much who starts but who ends games...we're on a winning streak using this formula and beat Golden State and the Jazz doing it....I wouldn't change a thing ...Collins is ahead of the curve but he's not taking Nurk's spot anytime soon. Collins just had his first impact endgame and folks are giddy he hit a three when we needed one....it's great he did but it doesn't make him a rookie starter to me...I like the kid..I love Nurk...

 

[Pinwheel1]

I think Nurk would dominate second unit bigs pretty easily and would be a better option in the second unit than any other players in that unit.

I like Nurk, but he is not ready to have the offense run through him. Do you really want to rely on him at this time to make unforced passes and take unforced shots? There is reason why guards now dominate the offense. Napier and CJ are much better options than Nurk at this time.

 

[LayneStaley]

I think Zach has already taken over what chief provides if they were given the same minutes. But closing games with Zach/Ed has been a winning formula.

 

[LayneStaley]

I like Nurk, but he is not ready to have the offense run through him. Do you really want to rely on him at this time to make unforced passes and take unforced shots? There is reason why guards now dominate the offense. Napier and CJ are much better options than Nurk at this time.

I don’t count CJ as part of the second unit, I was talking about running through Nurk when a line up of Napier/Pat/Turner(Hark)/Chief/Nurk. I would never make Nurk the focal point with Dame, CJ, or even Zach on the floor. I don’t trust Nurk at all.

 

[KingSpeed]

I think Zach has already taken over what chief provides if they were given the same minutes. But closing games with Zach/Ed has been a winning formula.

This reminds me of when people were in here saying that Jake Layman was just as good as Crabbe if they had the same minutes. Collins has not take over what Chief provides. Calm down. Besides, it's best to have BOTH and not one or the other. Depth!

 

[LayneStaley]

This reminds me of when people were in here saying that Jake Layman was just as good as Crabbe if they had the same minutes. Collins has not take over what Chief provides. Calm down. Besides, it's best to have BOTH and not one or the other. Depth!

Maybe I’m biased because I don’t like Bambi....at all. He looks like a walking turnover to me, I hate his awkward drives in the lane. He offers decent D and can usually hit the WIDE OPEN spot up 3. Collins does both too, and has a better post up game. Other than the contract I’ve never understood the Chief love.

 

[LayneStaley]

Layman to Crabb is a far cry from comparing Zach to Chief

Layman has NEVER shown consistency on either end of the floor.

 

[riverman]

Layman to Crabb is a far cry from comparing Zach to Chief

Layman has NEVER shown consistency on either end of the floor.

A better comparison would be rookie Crabbe to Batum...

 

[StumptownHoliday]

Honestly, at this point meyers is perfectly fine for what he is. Hes never going to be a starting center, but after this many years in the league he knows what hes doing and is honestly not all that bad. I never cringe when I see him on the floor like I used to. Hes still a lil stiff but he's a hulking dude and takes up space in the middle, and can hit a three from time to time.

Collins is dope, and his potential is through the roof. What I like about him is that death stare he has when playing, particularly in intense moments. Hes kinda terrifying and I like it.

 

[hoopsjock]

I think we are better with Chief coming off the bench....and while we are at it bring Nurk off the bench too. He can be focal point of second unit and Ed is better next to Zach so if Collins starts so should Ed IMO.

How many minutes have Nurk and Collins played together this year? How can you say definitively that Zach and Ed are better together than Nurk and Zach would be?

 

[StumptownHoliday]

How many minutes have Nurk and Collins played together this year? How can you say definitively that Zach and Ed are better together than Nurk and Zach would be?

I think Nurk and Collins will be awesome together. Collins is agile and can shoot. Nurk is a big, bad European center. Theyre both plus defenders. Why exactly would they not compliment each other?

 

[hoopsjock]

I think Nurk and Collins will be awesome together. Collins is agile and can shoot. Nurk is a big, bad European center. Theyre both plus defenders. Why exactly would they not compliment each other?

Exactly, I've been saying all along that the long term plan should be Collins starting at PF and Nurk at C.

 

[StumptownHoliday]

Exactly, I've been saying all along that the long term plan should be Collins starting at PF and Nurk at C.

Chances are that is the long term plan. Maybe even short term plan, provided Collins just detonates. Not out of the realm of possibility, but (other than with dame) stotts is notoriously sheepish about pushing rooks. I kinda want him to try...

 

[LayneStaley]

How many minutes have Nurk and Collins played together this year? How can you say definitively that Zach and Ed are better together than Nurk and Zach would be?

How can you say they aren’t Logically I think they would both play better with a defensive minded counterpart

 

[StumptownHoliday]

How can you say they aren’t I think logically they would both play better with a defensive minded counterpart

I feel like Collins IS the defensive minded counterpart, just more dynamic than davis.

 

[LayneStaley]

I feel like Collins IS the defensive minded counterpart, just more dynamic than davis.

I can can see that i guess, I would just hate seeing Collins defer shots to Nurk so that he can fling some wild shot up. I also think a Davis/Chief second unit would be brutal, neither should dribble more than 2 feet.

 

[StumptownHoliday]

I can can see that i guess, I would just hate seeing Collins defer shots to Nurk so that he can fling some wild shot up. I also think a Davis/Chief second unit would be brutal, neither should dribble more than 2 feet.

Fair point. Davis and chief would be ugly, but those offensive rebounds would be great for cj.

 

[Mediocre Man]

As some have said. Slow down on Collins. He was awful last night.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Honestly, at this point meyers is perfectly fine for what he is. Hes never going to be a starting center, but after this many years in the league he knows what hes doing and is honestly not all that bad. I never cringe when I see him on the floor like I used to. Hes still a lil stiff but he's a hulking dude and takes up space in the middle, and can hit a three from time to time.

Collins is dope, and his potential is through the roof. What I like about him is that death stare he has when playing, particularly in intense moments. Hes kinda terrifying and I like it.

No no
No.

He is not fine where he is. He is 40 mill fine. That's too much fine.

 

[dviss1]

I love the kid.

He reminds me of what I want my son to do:

Get stronger, focus on defense and rebounding, and play with a sharp edge.

 

[dviss1]

As some have said. Slow down on Collins. He was awful last night.

No he wasn't. They called 3 HORRIBLE calls on him and he never was able to get a rhythm.

You really be on that bullshit sometimes.

You want SO BAD to be right about WABC that you keep stretching...

 

[Mediocre Man]

No he wasn't. They called 3 HORRIBLE calls on him and he never was able to get a rhythm.

You really be on that bullshit sometimes.

You want SO BAD to be right about WABC that you keep stretching...

He's not a center