You guys trading for Deng?

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Im hearing on ESPN Radio that a report in the Oregonian is that the Bulls and Blazers are possibly talking about a trade for Luol Deng involving Jerryd Bayless and Joel Pryzbilla. Have you guys heard anything?

 

[Idog1976]

Im hearing on ESPN Radio that a report in the Oregonian is that the Bulls and Blazers are possibly talking about a trade for Luol Deng involving Jerryd Bayless and Joel Pryzbilla. Have you guys heard anything?

Hey Denny If this goes through I'm on board your Deng for CP3 trade idea!

 

[barfo]

Actually, it would seem if this is going through, then Batum for CP3 might be more likely. But can we do that w/o Przybilla's contract?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Hey Denny If this goes through I'm on board your Deng for CP3 trade idea!

Deng for CP3 and Okafor, and it works for the Bulls because they have a ton of cap space to absorb CP3's salary. It'd give NOH a starting SF who's only 24 and $67M in salary relief over the life of Deng's contract.

Now if you guys had the cap space... I'd say go for it.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Seriously, wouldn't this indicate that Batum will be moved in a package?

Come on, CP3!

 

[Rhal]

If this somehow nets us CP3 i'm all for it. If not then not a fan of another SF when we have batum.

 

[Denny Crane]

You're not landing CP3 for Batum.

 

[EGame]

Actually, it would seem if this is going through, then Batum for CP3 might be more likely. But can we do that w/o Przybilla's contract?

barfo

Would love it, but don't see it. You are right, there goes our 1 big expiring contract (other than Miller) and then I still doubt Oden is a part of any CP3 deal, which leaves Batum as the centerpiece along with a nice prospect or two in Baylesss and/or Rudy plus Miller's expiring. IMO that is not enough expirings.

 

[Denny Crane]

Would love it, but don't see it. You are right, there goes our 1 big expiring contract (other than Miller) and then I still doubt Oden is a part of any CP3 deal, which leaves Batum as the centerpiece along with a nice prospect or two in Baylesss and/or Rudy plus Miller's expiring. IMO that is not enough expirings.

Bayless and Joel for Deng is the rumor.

 

[Rhal]

I should clarify. I'm not fan of another SF who has a pretty large contract when he would be coming off the bench behind Batum.

 

[EGame]

You're not landing CP3 for Batum.

Just like you never were for Deng.

 

[MadeFromDust]

Do this then package Batum for CP3.

Paul
Roy
Deng
Aldridge
Oden

 

[EGame]

Bayless and Joel for Deng is the rumor.

Horrible trade. Horrible fit, horrible contract, injury risk, not worth the risk. If the Blazers go trhough with this, I may start questioning them.

 

[Denny Crane]

Just like you never were for Deng. If you think we are being unrealistic, perhaps you should also check you and your posts when discussing dealing for Paul.

It was written that NOH wants cap relief - someone has to take Okafor, Posey, or Peja (big contract) as part of the deal.

The Deng deal gives them a starter and the Bulls would be taking back one of those contracts. It just works.

And I do like Deng. He's not in the Melo/LeBron class of SF, but he's one of the top few in the next tier.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Actually, despite what you might have heard, Portland hasn't turned its GM-ing duties over to message board posters. Not that we aren't standing ready if called upon!

That trade makes very little sense. If Chicago trades Deng it will be to a team with caproom because they have a shot at another FA and want to clear out space. OR in a sign-and-trade for one of the FAs (but that isn't happening, because Deng is no longer a very attractive contract).

That said, I've always liked Deng as a player. But Portland does not need ANOTHER injury-prone player, and Deng has recurring back problems.

 

[Idog1976]

Seriously, wouldn't this indicate that Batum will be moved in a package?

Come on, CP3!

Trade Checker is failing me on the Deng to Portland then on to NOH trade. Keep Batum send Deng take back contracts, but how?

Ugh, I need to do teh ,maths.

Deng, AMEC, Rudy + ?+ Rooks + cash + Picks = CP3 + Okafor or Posey?

 

[crowTrobot]

probably related topic - "wade leaning bulls"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5348670

bulls desparate to make sure they have room for wade + lebron or bosh

 

[Denny Crane]

Actually, despite what you might have heard, Portland hasn't turned its GM-ing duties over to message board posters. Not that we aren't standing ready if called upon!

That trade makes very little sense. If Chicago trades Deng it will be to a team with caproom because they have a shot at another FA and want to clear out space. OR in a sign-and-trade for one of the FAs (but that isn't happening, because Deng is no longer a very attractive contract).

That said, I've always liked Deng as a player. But Portland does not need ANOTHER injury-prone player, and Deng has recurring back problems.

Deng = 11.5M salary - Joel 7.4M = 4M cap savings + Bayless 2.3M = 1.7M cap savings for the Bulls.

Bulls have only one guard on the roster right now.

 

[barfo]

Trade Checker is failing me on the Deng to Portland then on to NOH trade. Keep Batum send Deng take back contracts, but how?

Ugh, I need to do teh ,maths.

Deng, AMEC, Rudy + ?+ Rooks + cash + Picks = CP3 + Okafor or Posey?

Can't trade Deng with other people, so it would have to be two separate trades, like Deng for Okafor, and other stuff for CP3.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Can't trade Deng with other people, so it would have to be two separate trades, like Deng for Okafor, and other stuff for CP3.

barfo

Deng for Okafor works, though NOH probably doesn't want the $1.5M-ish extra salary on the books. The other trade would have to be acceptable to them, too.

 

[B-Roy]

Well there's nothing in the Oregonian so this is false....

 

[EGame]

Such an ugly trade, I want no part of Deng. I may consider it if we give up Rudy instead of Bayless, but still, I don't like the thought of Deng.

 

[Idog1976]

Can't trade Deng with other people, so it would have to be two separate trades, like Deng for Okafor, and other stuff for CP3.

barfo

Well You could trade an income Deng, Rudy, our two last years rooks, Camby, Rudy and Miller and take on CP3 Okafor and Posey.

Relieving them of Okafor and Posey while giving them a rental/mentorship of Miller, Camby manning the middle for two years, Deng and a roll of the dice on Rudy, Pendergraph, Mills and Cunningham.

Chicago gets:

Bayless, Przybilla

Chicago gives:

Deng

Portland trades:

Incoming Deng

Portland gets:

Okafor

Portland trades:

AMEC, Camby, Rudy, Pendergraph, Cunningham, Mills + Cash + Picks + Euros for CP3 and Posey.

I almost had the math worked out using Storyteller's website (it was within a couple hundred K or less) when I cleared my calculator.

I'm pretty sure it works.

Portland:

PG: Paul/Johnson
SG: Roy/Williams
SF: Batum/Babbit/Claver
PF: LMA/Freeland
C: Oden

Bench = utter garbage MLE is desperately needed for a Big man.

But OMFG starting line up!

NOH isn't bad either:

PG: Miller/Collison
SG: Rudy/corpse of Peja
SF: Deng
PF: West
C: Camby

That's a competitive team actually. It could be better then the CP3 version. Saves an ass ton of cap space

 

[illmatic99]

Im hearing on ESPN Radio that a report in the Oregonian is that the Bulls and Blazers are possibly talking about a trade for Luol Deng involving Jerryd Bayless and Joel Pryzbilla. Have you guys heard anything?

Talk about irresponsible reporting by ESPN radio.

That was an unsubstantiated rumor (trolling, most likely) by an anonymous poster on the OREGONLIVE forums.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

This works. Dunno if either Portland or NO should do it, though.

 

[B-Roy]

Why does NO want Deng? He costs more than Okafor!

You guys know that after this season, NO will actually be under the cap. Loading up on heavy contracts is not what they want.

 

[Idog1976]

This works. Dunno if either Portland or NO should do it, though.

Why would they want Batum AND Deng? Batum to play SG? I can see that. That team might be pretty sick on defense.

Portland left with:

Paul/Johnson
Roy/Williams
Cunningham/Babbit/Claver
LMA/Freeland
Oden/MLE guy

Hmm, Intriguing, but again why Deng AND Batum...?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I don't know if your trade works. Where's Okafor?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Why would they want Batum AND Deng?

Because they prefer Deng to Okafor?

 

[barfo]

This works. Dunno if either Portland or NO should do it, though.

The thing that doesn't make sense to me here is, if they are willing to take on Deng's salary, they should be willing to take on Aldridge's instead. And for us, trading LMA makes a whole lot more sense than trading Batum, since we are getting Okafor back.

barfo