You guys trading for Deng?

[Denny Crane]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wadelebronbulls072010

Sources say Chicago has a proposed trade of Luol Deng(notes) looming for what’s described as a “center” that could help to clear more space. The Bulls could also ship young forward James Johnson(notes) to get more room.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I call bullshit. No self-respecting Scot is up that early!

Up? Bedtime isn't until 9.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

eh?

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5588802

No need to include Dante. Otherwise, that's my deal. I'm in favor. If only the Hornets would be...

 

[maxiep]

Up? Bedtime isn't until 9.

Touche.

 

[Blazinaway]

if we get Deng can we trade him to the Clips for a big TPE? Clips need an SF, none left in FA, and after recent prices paid for SF's Deng's salary looks reasonable. Then we use the TPE and our other assets to trade for CP3, might need two separate trades but that should be no big deal. Would that not make it more attractive to Orelans?

 

[Nikolokolus]

if we get Deng can we trade him to the Clips for a big TPE? Clips need an SF, none left in FA, and after recent prices paid for SF's Deng's salary looks reasonable. Then we use the TPE and our other assets to trade for CP3, might need two separate trades but that should be no big deal. Would that not make it more attractive to Orelans?

In theory that works, but what happens if you trade Deng to the Clips for nothing and then the Hornets back out of the deal? (Nevermind the fact that the Clippers just drafted Aminu at 8)

 

[LittleAlex]

I sure hope not.

 

[Blazinaway]

In theory that works, but what happens if you trade Deng to the Clips for nothing and then the Hornets back out of the deal? (Nevermind the fact that the Clippers just drafted Aminu at 8)

obviously you don't do it unless Hornets are committed, or make it a 4-way from the start

 

[Nikolokolus]

obviously you don't do it unless Hornets are committed, or make it a 4-way from the start

a 4-way trade ... without a GM in place ... Ummmm OK.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

if we get Deng can we trade him to the Clips for a big TPE?

If that could happen, then wouldn't Chicago do that without us to free up maximum cap space?

 

[Nikolokolus]

If that could happen, then wouldn't Chicago do that without us to free up maximum cap space?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

 

[Blazinaway]

If that could happen, then wouldn't Chicago do that without us to free up maximum cap space?

Chi also needs some players, they got no guards but Rose, we can send Pryz or Miller with some combo of Bayless - Rudy - Pendy etc

 

[Nikolokolus]

Chi also needs some players, they got no guards but Rose, we can send Pryz or Miller with some combo of Bayless - Rudy - Pendy etc

If they free max cap room and get Wade or Lebron, they can go out and get veteran's minimum or D-league guys to fill out their guard spots and not miss a beat. They don't need Bayless, Rudy or Pendergraph.

 

[Nikolokolus]

For the sake of argument, let's say that the Blazers did this deal. What then?

Miller/(Farmar?)/Johnson
Roy/(Mason?)/Williams
Deng/Batum/Babbitt
LMA/Dante
Oden/Camby/Pendergraph

Doesn't seem bloody likely that Nic stays in a backup role and Deng sure as hell wouldn't back him up. It just doesn't add up.

Edit: and it's completely foolish to believe that some mega trade for an all-star point guard would follow this.

 

[Minstrel]

For the sake of argument, let's say that the Blazers did this deal. What then?

Miller/(Farmar?)/Johnson
Roy/(Mason?)/Williams
Deng/Batum/Babbitt
LMA/Dante
Oden/Camby/Pendergraph

Doesn't seem bloody likely that Nic stays in a backup role and Deng sure as hell wouldn't back him up. It just doesn't add up.

It would prefigure Batum being traded, as part of a package for Chris Paul. Deng becomes the new 30-35 MPG starter.

Edit: and it's completely foolish to believe that some mega trade for an all-star point guard would follow this.

Edit: Oh, didn't read your entire post before typing my response and pressing the submit button. Well, now I just feel foolish. But not "completely," so the joke's on you.

Where my Chris Paul at?

 

[Nikolokolus]

It would prefigure Batum being traded, as part of a package for Chris Paul. Deng becomes the new 30-35 MPG starter.



Edit: Oh, didn't read your entire post before typing my response and pressing the submit button. Well, now I just feel foolish. But not "completely," so the joke's on you.

Where my Chris Paul at?

He's right over there ------------> No, not there. over there, keep looking, you'll find him eventually ...

 

[maxiep]

I don't think we trade for Deng unless it's part of a three-way. Straight up it makes little sense for us.

 

[Idog1976]

I don't think we trade for Deng unless it's part of a three-way. Straight up it makes little sense for us.

I also think this is a rare situation where Chicago would help us get Paul if it helped them get two of LeBron/Bosh/Wade.

Do you not agree Denny?

PG Rose
SG Wade
SF LeBron
PF Noah
C Przybilla

 

[Denny Crane]

I also think this is a rare situation where Chicago would help us get Paul if it helped them get two of LeBron/Bosh/Wade.

Do you not agree Denny?

PG Rose
SG Wade
SF LeBron
PF Noah
C Przybilla

I think Joel comes off the bench with Taj starting.

 

[Idog1976]

I think Joel comes off the bench with Taj starting.

But you wouldn't shed a bitter tear over that lineup right? More like tears of joy?

 

[Denny Crane]

But you wouldn't shed a bitter tear over that lineup right? More like tears of joy?

I think there's a rumored deal in place and you guys are trying to find a way to extract more from the Bulls than the actual deal is....

Frankly, I'd rather have Paul over Wade in your lineup, PLUS we'd have Okafor instead of Joel. And we could use Okafor a LOT.

 

[Idog1976]

I think there's a rumored deal in place and you guys are trying to find a way to extract more from the Bulls than the actual deal is....

Frankly, I'd rather have Paul over Wade in your lineup, PLUS we'd have Okafor instead of Joel. And we could use Okafor a LOT.

You'd turn Rose into an SG? That doesn't sound like maximizing your assets. Okafor doesn't make up for moving a budding star out of his natural position. Sure Paul is an upgrade, but you're neutralizing Rose.

 

[Idog1976]

I think there's a rumored deal in place and you guys are trying to find a way to extract more from the Bulls than the actual deal is....

Frankly, I'd rather have Paul over Wade in your lineup, PLUS we'd have Okafor instead of Joel. And we could use Okafor a LOT.

Another thought, How about LBJ and Bosh.


PG: Rose
SG: Rudy or Bayless
SF: Lebron
PF: Noah
C: Bosh

Bigger better frontline. Rose in his natural position.

Or

PG: Rose
SG: Wade
SF: Not sure on this one
PF: Noah
C: Bosh

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think there's a rumored deal in place and you guys are trying to find a way to extract more from the Bulls than the actual deal is....

Frankly, I'd rather have Paul over Wade in your lineup, PLUS we'd have Okafor instead of Joel. And we could use Okafor a LOT.

I was thinking the same thing. If the Bulls had a shot at Paul and Lebron (or Paul and Bosh?) that would be a lot more desirable than facilitating some deal where Paul gets shipped to Portland.

 

[Idog1976]

I was thinking the same thing. If the Bulls had a shot at Paul and Lebron (or Paul and Bosh?) that would be a lot more desirable than facilitating some deal where Paul gets shipped to Portland.

Fair enough but if Chicago doesn't have the pieces to get Paul (I think this is likely or he would already be a Bull) then getting two of Lebron/Wade/Bosh is a pretty fucking fair consolation prize.

 

[Denny Crane]

You'd turn Rose into an SG? That doesn't sound like maximizing your assets. Okafor doesn't make up for moving a budding star out of his natural position. Sure Paul is an upgrade, but you're neutralizing Rose.

Rose played SG whenever Hinrich was in the game, which was most of the time for the 2nd half of the season. Rose's numbers went way up.

I think he's a scorer, and his game is closer to Jordan's than it is to Paul's.

 

[Idog1976]

Rose played SG whenever Hinrich was in the game, which was most of the time for the 2nd half of the season. Rose's numbers went way up.

I think he's a scorer, and his game is closer to Jordan's than it is to Paul's.

You honestly are comparing the kid to Jordan? Or are you simply comparing styles?

 

[Denny Crane]

You honestly are comparing the kid to Jordan? Or are you simply comparing styles?

Styles.

 

[Nikolokolus]

You honestly are comparing the kid to Jordan? Or are you simply comparing styles?

Styles.

Exactly, Jordan is nowhere near the talent that Rose is.

 

[Denny Crane]

Exactly, Jordan is nowhere near the talent that Rose is.

LOL

Styles:

good ballhandlers and distributors
quick
score inside
strong
accurate mid-range shot
not 3pt shooters
scorers