You guys trading for Deng?

[RoyToy]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

According to this guy, who actually swears he loves Derek Rose, Rose is WAY overrated:

So, what makes Derrick Rose overrated?

First of all, he is an inefficient scorer. He’s not nearly up to Monta Ellis levels, but his 20.4 points per game average is much less impressive once you factor in that he needs 17.6 shots per game to reach it. In fact, his true shooting of 52.4% is a staggering 195th in the league in the league amongst qualifying players (228th overall), and 35th (of 67) among point guards. Pretty mediocre for a player whose main skill is scoring the ball.

But Rose’s offensive deficiencies go deeper that a random number that turns out to be middle of the pack. His overall offensive arsenal just isn’t there yet. Most of Rose’s points come off the same move: he uses his elite speed to blow past his defender, before either stepping back for a mid-range jumper or taking a floater/layup at the rim – usually the former. This is a problem with Rose: he has a very good mid-range jumper, making 43% of his long 2s while only being assisted on 34% of them (courtesy of Hoopdata), but it is still the least-efficient shot in basketball. And yet, of Rose’s 17.8 shots per game, 7.2 of them come from between 16 to 23 feet, with an additional 2.4 from 10 to 15 feet. In fact, Rose is 3rd in the league at shot attempts from that range, despite being only 112th in the league in percentage from that range. This is an obviously skewed stat – better players take more shots, regardless of the range – but it does tell you that Rose is taking way too many long 2s.

On the flip side, of the three most efficient ways to score the basketball – taking shots at the rim, getting to the free throw line, and making threes – Rose only excels at the first. His three point shot is nearly non-existent, making 22% of his 0.4 attempts per game, and he shoots only 4.1 free throws a game despite the athleticism and skill to get to the line whenever he wants to.

 

[Denny Crane]

According to this guy, who actually swears he loves Derek Rose, Rose is WAY overrated:

Sure.

He's 21, played 2 years and is an all-star in year 2. He upped his scoring from 16.8 to 20.8 and his PER from 16 to 18.6. More importantly, he's stepped his game up considerably in the playoffs, unlike say LeBron's teammates. Last year, 26.8 PPG and 7.2 APG.

If he develops his 3pt shooting, he'll be a devastating and much more efficient scorer.

 

[XXPrimusXX]

LOL

Styles:

good ballhandlers and distributors
quick
score inside
strong
accurate mid-range shot
not 3pt shooters
scorers

Jordan not a 3pt shooter? Cliff Robinson would like to have a word with you. >_<

 

[Denny Crane]

Jordan not a 3pt shooter? Cliff Robinson would like to have a word with you. >_<

1.7 attempts / game for his career, .327% career.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

So, was this whole 'rumor' started by O-Live's forum?

Really?!

 

[Tortimer]

So, was this whole 'rumor' started by O-Live's forum?

Really?!

I really think it was. It just had a life of it's own and next thing we know people think it is real. There is no way we are trading Joel and Bayless for Deng without trading Batum fo CP3.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I agree. With Dung, besides being vastly overpaid, he's injury prone and you know that's the last thing we need is another player we have to worry about.

 

[XXPrimusXX]

1.7 attempts / game for his career, .327% career.

I know. I was kidding.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Speaking of Rose, he's the epitome of the new breed of PG's that I absolutely loath. Scorers mentality, pass second. He's no CP3 or D-Will.

 

[ehizzy3]