Your ideal draft day?

[Fez Hammersticks]

A thread to bump on draft day. On the eve of the lotto things are a'boot to get interesting.

It's not a top heavy draft but it is deep with solid players - even into the second round.

I like a number of mid-first guys - Ulis, Valentine, Richardson - but my ideal draft would be to get into the lotto. Of course if you can get a project like Maker on the cheap you have to do it. I liked Zubac - before his medical history was known. Definitely too high of a risk.

How? I think you have to pony up Vonleh and the CLE pick. My target would be Domantas Sabonis. He's a lock to go top-10. The legacy angle with Arvydas is cool but Domantas has intangibles/bbiq that can't be taught. Neil has interest, he scouted him in person numerous times - as late as this past March.

Go!

 

[Sarni]

I don't think we have means to get into lottery without giving up on someone way too important. Late first is our best bet.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I wouldn't mind seeing us deal +future 1st+Diez rights to get the rights to Sabonis, doubt it would work though. Could also be an overpay too, thank God I'm not a GM.

 

[Scalma]

Plumlee for a mid/late first. Remember that he's going to get paid soon. His value will never be higher.

 

[BonesJones]

Trade CLE 1st, Future 2nd for 24th pick

Draft Taurean Prince

Trade Pat Cannaughton, Future 2nd for 2 BOS 2nd Round Picks

Draft Kay Felder and Joel Bolomboy

 

[Strenuus]

Get into the playoffs. Not worry about the draft.

Oh, we did that.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I dont want a draft day. Wont do us any good. Not sure why some people are sooo fixated on it being the end all to getting better...

 

[KeepOnRollin]

As I said, I am fine with 1 pick depending on the price. People saying they see us drafting 2 or 3 players in this draft though are going to be disappointed after the draft is over and we don't imo.

I get that the draft time is exciting. We as fans love it. Heck even Paul Allen loves it (probably the biggest fan) but to go from having no picks to 3 picks just isn't going to happen the way I see it.

But to answer the question. I would love Sabonis. Can't see a realistic chance at getting him though.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

Ideal Draft Day 2016: Hope we don't OVERPAY to do anything!! Doubtful that any rookie can help this team get better in 2017.
But if we signed DH.....trading Plumlee and (?) change for ability to get Sabonis would make me happy!

 

[BBert]

I'm kind of the same mind as Harry. Find a way to get Horford, or get Howard on a reasonable contract, and trade Plumlee for a first round pick or other assets.

 

[illmatic99]

I just want our FO to act as if they do have a pick. The prep, the contingency plans, the trades, etc all need to be there. Four teams have 12 of the 30 first round picks. There will be moves made and we need to stay involved if the opportunity presents itself.

Keys to consider:
1. Build for the future on Dame and CJ's career arc
2. Improve our frontcourt
3. Improve our defense
4. Get at least 1 more scorer who can get buckets off the dribble
5. Pick up more movable assets -- future picks, cheap contracts, etc

Doesn't matter if all this is achieved through the draft or FA.

 

[blue9]

Ideal draft day is that we make a good trade. I'm pretty easy to please.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I just want our FO to act as if they do have a pick. The prep, the contingency plans, the trades, etc all need to be there. Four teams have 12 of the 30 first round picks. There will be moves made and we need to stay involved if the opportunity presents itself.

Keys to consider:
1. Build for the future on Dame and CJ's career arc
2. Improve our frontcourt... What player in the draft do you think we could get realistically that would do this?
3. Improve our defense...Again... what player from the draft would do this that we could net realistically?
4. Get at least 1 more scorer who can get buckets off the dribble....third times a charm... who in the draft could we get that could do this?
5. Pick up more movable assets -- future picks, cheap contracts, etc...This is plausible. Future picks for trade bait, but not for a roster spot.

Doesn't matter if all this is achieved through the draft or FA.

I see your last statement through draft or FA. Why not a trade?

This thread and topic of convo seems to be based around the draft.
Can someone please answer my questions to Yuyuza's post?

And if you cant, then please explain why this draft should be so relevant top us that we should try to be a player, rather than putting our focus on the FA and trade potentials?

I am sorry, but I do not see any upside in entering the draft unless it is to trade the pick in a package. Those who think otherwise, please explain how another young draft player could actually help this team and make an impact next year?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Ideal draft day is that we make a good trade. I'm pretty easy to please.

This right here.

 

[Natebishop3]

Meh... not interested in the draft this year. We don't have a pick, and at this point we need rotation guys.

 

[illmatic99]

Raptors found a rotational wing defender and 3pt shooter with their 46th pick last year. He's averaging double digit mpg in the playoffs on a team that just made the conference finals.

Drafting a player doesn't mean burying a wasted roster spot on the bench.

 

[HolyBackboard]

We already have our draft pick this year: Noah Vonleh.

Let's continue to groom him and watch him develop. The worst thing we could do would be to move him and watch him break-out like JO did in Indiana.

If we do make a pick, I'd buy into the second round and nab GPII from Oregon State. Portland needs a future backup point guard and more perimeter defense in general, both of which GPII is capable of bringing to the table.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Ideal draft day: Lots of Coors Light and getting my balls waxed.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Ideal draft day: Lots of Coors Light and getting my balls waxed.

Waxed? fuckin ouch dude!

 

[Chris Craig]

Turn connaughton, Montero, and Alexander into a couple of second round picks, take GPII and Felder

Or use the draft to trade for a high level player


Then sign Horford and Bismack in FA

Resign Harkless and crabbe

 

[Chris Craig]

Ideal draft day: Lots of Coors Light and getting my balls waxed.

@Jesus Christ Son of God

 

[Mediocre Man]

I dont want a draft day. Wont do us any good. Not sure why some people are sooo fixated on it being the end all to getting better...

Probably because GS, OKC, Toronto and Cle all have high draft picks leading the way, or players acquired with high draft picks leading them to the finals?

Even Portland, when we were great drafted Walton, Lucas, Drexler, Porter, Kersey, Uncle Cliffy. Even guys like Duckworth and Buck (Sam Bowie former 2nd overall and a draft pick) were acquired using former draft picks like

People bring up the teams with Sheed and little Damon as a counter to this argument, but t was a different league back then, and frankly a different Paul Allen.

Show me a championship team, or someone who is consistently vying for one, and I will show you a high draft pick most likely leading them. Exceptions to the rule? You bet. But in the end, they are exceptions. Players drafted by or traded for on draft day as part of the draft like Pippen or Roy are all over great teams. If you want to be a nice team that competes for the playoffs each year, but doesn't really have the horses to be taken seriously, then do what Portland has done.

Does it work all the time? Obviously not. the Sixers are garbage and the Clips back in the day were too. But they didn't need to be

Let's say the Sixers drafted Steven Adams instead of MCW from Syracuse, Of course, in 2013. in 2014 they draft Smart instead of Embid and in 2015 they take Porzingas or Winslow. Then people start saying, wow, what a great plan. They were shitty because of bad scouting, not a bad plan

So, IMO, that's why people are so fixated on it. It's where the stars of the league come from. Our two best players, and our worst, ironically enough, were all lottery picks

 

[BlazerWookee]

Waxed? fuckin ouch dude!

Not hair removal waxed. Glazed like a donut waxed.

 

[Chris Craig]

Not hair removal waxed. Glazed like a donut waxed.

Are you having @SlyPokerDog over?

 

[BlazerWookee]

Are you having @SlyPokerDog over?

No, I'm allergic to peanut butter...

 

[Mediocre Man]

I see your last statement through draft or FA. Why not a trade?

This thread and topic of convo seems to be based around the draft.
Can someone please answer my questions to Yuyuza's post?

And if you cant, then please explain why this draft should be so relevant top us that we should try to be a player, rather than putting our focus on the FA and trade potentials?

I am sorry, but I do not see any upside in entering the draft unless it is to trade the pick in a package. Those who think otherwise, please explain how another young draft player could actually help this team and make an impact next year?

Trade is obviously the best way to go. Who on our team do you want to give up for who...or is it whom? And would that person, or people be an upgrade over what we gave up? It's not like we have a ton of assets under contract

 

[craigehlo]

Turn connaughton, Montero, and Alexander into a couple of second round picks, take GPII and Felder

What GM in their right mind would do that?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Probably because GS, OKC, Toronto and Cle all have high draft picks leading the way, or players acquired with high draft picks leading them to the finals?

Even Portland, when we were great drafted Walton, Lucas, Drexler, Porter, Kersey, Uncle Cliffy. Even guys like Duckworth and Buck (Sam Bowie former 2nd overall and a draft pick) were acquired using former draft picks like

People bring up the teams with Sheed and little Damon as a counter to this argument, but t was a different league back then, and frankly a different Paul Allen.

Show me a championship team, or someone who is consistently vying for one, and I will show you a high draft pick most likely leading them. Exceptions to the rule? You bet. But in the end, they are exceptions. Players drafted by or traded for on draft day as part of the draft like Pippen or Roy are all over great teams. If you want to be a nice team that competes for the playoffs each year, but doesn't really have the horses to be taken seriously, then do what Portland has done.

Does it work all the time? Obviously not. the Sixers are garbage and the Clips back in the day were too. But they didn't need to be

Let's say the Sixers drafted Steven Adams instead of MCW from Syracuse, Of course, in 2013. in 2014 they draft Smart instead of Embid and in 2015 they take Porzingas or Winslow. Then people start saying, wow, what a great plan. They were shitty because of bad scouting, not a bad plan

So, IMO, that's why people are so fixated on it. It's where the stars of the league come from. Our two best players, and our worst, ironically enough, were all lottery picks

But you missed one very important thing. Those were all lottery picks. Do you think we are going to get a lottery pick this year some how and if so, how?

If not, then isn't all that moot?

Don't get me wrong. I totally understand the draft if your in the lottery, but we are not and would have to trade a key player to get one, if we even could.

So my statement stands. This draft will not help us unless we use a pick in a trade. But to go for a low seed pick, that pick will not be a superstar in all likely hood and will not make an impact on the team next year.

I'm not talking about history. We agree there. I'm talking about this year with this team.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Not hair removal waxed. Glazed like a donut waxed.

Ohhh lickety lick! lol

 

[dviss1]

We make a 3 team move that has us acquiring Demarcus Cousins that allows us to keep CJ.