Z-Bo reminded me of something

[Hey]

Brandon Roy's first year, he demanded that Z-Bo get shipped out. Then he became an all-star the next year.
Brandon Roy has not enjoyed sharing the spotlight with Andre Miller and probably prefers someone like Blake. The two guys don't even talk outside of basketball.

And there's one big thing that people have forgotten. When Oden was healthy, Roy RARELY passed it to him, let alone even look for him. The most production Oden ever got was because of Andre, and occasionally LMA and Rudy. In fact, Roy probably looked to set up Joel more than he ever did Oden. It always amazed me.

Could this injury be a blessing in disguise? Because honestly, I'd prefer a team built around Oden rather than Roy. And ironically, Oden looks like he has more potential to stick around health-wise.

 

[B-Roy]

Could this injury be a blessing in disguise? Because honestly, I'd prefer a team built around Oden rather than Roy. And ironically, Oden looks like he has more potential to stick around health-wise.

Um yeah. Just, even in light of recent events, just, yeah.

 

[Pinwheel1]

"Oden looks like he has more potential to stick around health-wise. "

is there a full moon out tonight?

 

[Elvin Jones]

There is nothing good about Brandon Roy being injured.

Having said that, there is something good about Brandon Roy being injured. The offense stagnates when he's in the game. This is masked when Brandon is going off, but how often have we seen that lately, and how likely are we to ever see that again on a consistent basis?

Captain Hindsight would have said to trade Roy before he got hurt. General Presentday tells us that we need to do what's best for the team now that he's down. Read that again: what's best for the TEAM. Not what's best for Brandon Roy, which seems to have been the Blazers' priority until this point. In that respect, maybe it is a blessing in disguise.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If Roy is injured long term he and his contract will not be traded for any possible talent. And to dump him is not a good idea. So you people might as well start coming up with scenarios that include him on the team, or you are just wasting your time. We will see how Portland does against a team that is not 4-8. Can they win in crunch time?

 

[Nikolokolus]

If Roy is injured long term he and his contract will not be traded for any possible talent. And to dump him is not a good idea. So you people might as well start coming up with scenarios that include him on the team, or you are just wasting your time. We will see how Portland does against a team that is not 4-8. Can they win in crunch time?

Pretty much. Best case scenario for me is that Roy finds ways to learn to play off the ball AND returns to greatness, but really that seems like it could be a longshot, so if his best days are behind him and he's not going to be "the man" the way he once was then hopefully his complimentary game rounds out and he becomes a valuable player who can still hopefully provide some go to scoring.

There would have to be a massive change in his outlook regarding his place and role on the team, but maybe Rastapopulous's wild ass idea before all of the injury stuff cropped up -- that he morph into a sort of ginobli-esque player who comes off the bench to provide some scoring pop -- really is the best outcome, short of him returning to his dominant ways. The other scenarios are that he really is washed up and is forced to medically retire, or he could end up lingering for a few years trying to reclaim his past glory but never quite fitting in.

I guess we'll see.

 

[Kingspoint]

Brandon Roy's first year, he demanded that Z-Bo get shipped out. Then he became an all-star the next year.
Brandon Roy has not enjoyed sharing the spotlight with Andre Miller and probably prefers someone like Blake. The two guys don't even talk outside of basketball.

And there's one big thing that people have forgotten. When Oden was healthy, Roy RARELY passed it to him, let alone even look for him. The most production Oden ever got was because of Andre, and occasionally LMA and Rudy. In fact, Roy probably looked to set up Joel more than he ever did Oden. It always amazed me.

Could this injury be a blessing in disguise? Because honestly, I'd prefer a team built around Oden rather than Roy. And ironically, Oden looks like he has more potential to stick around health-wise.

If we didn't have Roy, we probably would have drafted Durant. There wasn't enough ball around for both of them. The biggest concern with taking Durant was that Roy would get the ball a lot less.

 

[Kingspoint]

If Roy is injured long term he and his contract will not be traded for any possible talent. And to dump him is not a good idea. So you people might as well start coming up with scenarios that include him on the team, or you are just wasting your time. We will see how Portland does against a team that is not 4-8. Can they win in crunch time?

I'd love to see how the team could do without Roy for the whole year.

Just as it's extremely difficult for Miami's great players to learn to play together (they're into their 18th game now if you count pre-season), it is probably even more difficult for Portland's non-All-Worldly players to learn to play together without Roy.

But, the only way that they'll get the chance is if Brandon just goes away. He has nothing left to offer to the team. Addition-by-Subtraction is his worth to the team now.

The likely scenario is that he struggles all year to try to find minutes for himself (why is Roy dictating anything at this point?) and by doing so destroys any kind of chemistry the team attempts to put together during their 2001-2011 season.

Roy doesn't even attempt to rebound a ball anymore and runs less now than he ever did before when it comes to breaking out on a fastbreak. If given 100 opportunities to break out on a fastbreak, Roy will attempt to do so maybe once, even when 25 times he's the closest man to the other side of the court.

 

[KingSpeed]

Brandon Roy's first year, he demanded that Z-Bo get shipped out. Then he became an all-star the next year.
Brandon Roy has not enjoyed sharing the spotlight with Andre Miller and probably prefers someone like Blake. The two guys don't even talk outside of basketball.

And there's one big thing that people have forgotten. When Oden was healthy, Roy RARELY passed it to him, let alone even look for him. The most production Oden ever got was because of Andre, and occasionally LMA and Rudy. In fact, Roy probably looked to set up Joel more than he ever did Oden. It always amazed me.

Could this injury be a blessing in disguise? Because honestly, I'd prefer a team built around Oden rather than Roy. And ironically, Oden looks like he has more potential to stick around health-wise.

Steve Blake had the most assists to Oden last year. I remember one stretch against Minnesota where Blake set Oden up for dunk after dunk after dunk after dunk.

 

[KingSpeed]

If we didn't have Roy, we probably would have drafted Durant. There wasn't enough ball around for both of them. The biggest concern with taking Durant was that Roy would get the ball a lot less.

I disagree. We took Oden because he was a once in a generation center and you don't turn that down. Roy had nothing to do with it.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'd love to see how the team could do without Roy for the whole year.

Just as it's extremely difficult for Miami's great players to learn to play together (they're into their 18th game now if you count preseason).

Lebron, Wade, and Bosh only played together for two minutes during preseason.

By the wAy, it didn't take Boston's Big Three any time to jell. They won their first 8 games and romped over everyone all season winning 66 games. They would've won 70 if they didn't rest the stars at the end of the season.

 

[KingSpeed]

Brandon Roy's first year, he demanded that Z-Bo get shipped out. .

There is no record of that anywhere.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I thought you were going to say he reminded you of guns and whores

 

[jlprk]

Brandon Roy's first year, he demanded that Z-Bo get shipped out. Then he became an all-star the next year. Brandon Roy has not enjoyed sharing the spotlight with Andre Miller...When Oden was healthy, Roy RARELY passed it to him...

You forgot Aldridge. He and Roy have never communicated much, as if they're rivals. The media likes Roy because he speaks like an authority, but that works against him with teammates.

 

[Pinwheel1]

But, the only way that they'll get the chance is if Brandon just goes away. He has nothing left to offer to the team. Addition-by-Subtraction is his worth to the team now.

I am going to have to disagree with your highly exaggerated logic. It's a bit too soon to tell him to stay the fuck away from the team.

 

[LittleAlex]

If we didn't have Roy, we probably would have drafted Durant. There wasn't enough ball around for both of them. The biggest concern with taking Durant was that Roy would get the ball a lot less.

This is true, but it would have been Roy taking the bulk of the shots.

Durant's first year in the league he shot like ass and his team got curb stomped nearly every night.

Considering how well Durant played defense his first year in the league I am not Nate would have even started him.


One of the things that benefited Durant was the fact that the Sonics traded away nearly every other offensive option the summer after he was drafted.
He got tons of minutes and tons of touches which in turn jump started his game.

I am pretty sure the same would not have happened in Portland.

 

[MIXUM]

again... please accept... we now know you cant build around oden.

 

[jlprk]

I am going to have to disagree with your highly exaggerated logic. It's a bit too soon to tell him to stay the fuck away from the team.

At the Comcast/Roy rally tomorrow, please join us in telling Comcast and Roy to stay the fuck away. I can share my sign with you.

 

[BGrantFan]

A 1-point win at a 4-8 team, and suddenly it's time for Roy to go. Especially after Miller dominated the ball late in the game and the offense stagnated. Seems like we've heard multiple criticisms of that type of play before; I guess Miller doing it makes it OK.

I love this place.

 

[jlprk]

I just added Roy to my sign, the paint's not even dry, and now you make me add Miller.

 

[Natebishop3]

I just added Roy to my sign, the paint's not even dry, and now you make me add Miller.

Don't forget to add Sean Marks too... we hate that bum!

 

[hasoos]

I was willing to blow off the team not passing to Oden due to trust not being developed yet, but it still bothered me when it happened. But considering Oden hasn't played this season yet, and we don't know if he will ever come back it is hard to envision building a team around him until that point happens.

 

[jlprk]

I hereby certifiably predict that Oden will play under 300 minutes this season.